Drug Tolerance: Side Effects Include Death. @Vegan Gains

09 June 2022 [link youtube]


Marijuana can ruin your life. Prescription antidepressants can ruin your life. The side effects are real. Your excuses for them are not.

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note the use of the passive voice he says it went away as opposed to i developed increasing tolerance to the effect of the drug i'm negative and i'm dark and i want to do bad stuff i want i want to hang out my this neighborhood alone that's dangerous hanging out in this neighborhood alone right here right he wants to kill everything he wants to kill me too i hate myself i'm trying to kill myself i hate myself a lot i've been um i haven't drank i took drugs in six days and for me that's a miracle i've been lying to everybody else to think i was sober but i'm not it's my sixth day i'm never gonna use again [Applause] [Music] oh god i'm so tired [Music] oh why does this happen [Music] [Music] i sat down with dr joseph habusch who conducted one of the leading studies on chs in a public hospital emergency department so chs cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome it was first described in 2004. so what ends up happening is folks who have been consuming cannabis for many years start developing these weird symptoms of nausea vomiting abdominal pain but really uniquely all of these patients had discovered that taking very hot showers helped their symptoms cannabis only does good it only does good because that's what everyone in the industry wants to think when you hear about weed you never think that it can kill you but is that the new narrative yes if it wasn't for marijuana we wouldn't have chs if it wasn't for chs then my son wouldn't be dead in 2016 she started to feel the symptoms of chs and in 2018 she had her first major episode for 14 days all day every day i threw up non-stop um a small sip of water i was throwing it up i couldn't hold anything down i went to urgent care twice got ivs i was you know not throwing up when i had an iv in me but then as soon as urgent care released me i go home and i'm throwing up i thought i was gonna die i was so frail i couldn't even look at myself in the mirror i was a skeleton and it was just like when is this gonna end the doctor has recommended that brian abstain from consuming cannabis and he agreed to do so for 45 days after that he began to smoke again and did not experience major symptoms for six months but that would soon change october 23rd i had woken up and brian was sitting on the couch holding his stomach and i said bubba you're okay he started vomiting so i called his doctor and i i said i feel like i'm watching my son slowly die my son had lost so much weight you could see every bone in his body and he uh started grabbing his back and he said my back hurts and instantly i thought his kidneys so i called 9-1-1 brian was laying on his side facing the doorway and he said mom i can't breathe so i roll him over [Music] and my son's eyes are open and my son's not breathing so i start doing cpr i looked him in the eyes and i knew he was gone [Applause] [Music] i notice that it's become fashionable in terms of public science education for doctors to rely on argument by analogy what i mean is this i notice that increasingly doctors will say with a very flippant and relaxed attitude that xanax is a lot like alcohol all your nerves relax all the signals between nerves calm down your body feels calm your muscles relax does that sound familiar yeah it's the exact same mechanism that alcohol hits so yeah xanax is basically alcohol in a tablet i know that they're doing this because they're trying to make something completely unknown seem comprehensible to people in the audience by comparing it to something they're familiar with the problem is many people are very likely to respond to this line of argumentation by thinking oh well um alcohol is no problem at all i'm familiar with alcohol i'm not afraid of lapsing into alcoholism myself or you know yeah okay fine it's like oh it's like alcohol then it's no big deal then it's safe then it's normal then it's fine they're not thinking in terms of an allegory about the effects on the nervous system they're not thinking that from maybe from this doctor's perspective alcohol is the drug with the highest body count in the united states of america alcohol kills more people than heroin in most most western countries at least you know they may not be thinking that from the doctor's perspective alcohol might be one of the most addictive habit-forming drugs or they may be thinking that like alcohol when you go through withdrawal after you've developed tolerance or addiction you have uh delirium tremens you have go into physiological shock you're actually in danger of dying what the doctor means by the comparison to alcohol may be something very troubling and very worrying indeed but people in the audience are really going to find this kind of reassuring to have this drug brought down to this easy to relate to familiar level and of course this is done with allegories to marijuana even more with people presuming that marijuana represents something safe or at least that it's a drug where all of the negative consequences are uh are easily manageable now i rely on allegories of this kind in politics and history all the time if i'm talking to someone who really knows nothing about buddhism i can start to discuss and describe buddhism in terms of its similarities to catholicism but pretty soon in that conversation once i've explained a little bit about what buddhism as a religion is like and what it's about and so on at some point we have to move past the allegory we have to discard it entirely and say you know what before i told you that buddhism historically is similar to catholicism and this isn't this way but you know what the truth is it's something profoundly alien profoundly new very difficult for you to understand or relate to no offense um really it's something you shouldn't feel familiar with or that you should regard as safe this is something you should actually you're actually quite right to feel apprehensive about and alienated from because you you really don't know the first thing about buddhism then we can take the next step in the conversation i can i can maybe tell you the first and the second thing also there is a sense both in terms of the objective chemical science and in terms of the subjective experience of what these drugs are like there is a sense in which you would really be well advised to forget any comparison any allegory comparing xanax to alcohol and you should regard it with great trepidation as something quite terrifying exotic and strange now i emphasize here there's both an objective and a subjective side to the story i've heard many youtubers say that they find the effects of cocaine and the commonly prescribed methamphetamine adderall to be identical now we can get into the chemistry of what what objectively are the differences between adderall and cocaine but then it might also be worth explaining why it is for them subjectively it seemed identical the high produced by cocaine seemed to them exactly the same as the high produced by adderall uh i have heard people say here on youtube that they found prescription adderall to have exactly the same feeling exactly the same effect as buying methamphetamine on the street as an illegal party drug again interesting subjectively and i think we could find some people who are experienced drug users who would say no no no for them subjectively these were two very different things that these were three or four very different things or experiences for them in terms of how it felt in terms of how how it affected them maybe also even specific things like how it disrupted their sleep how it disrupted their work life how it disrupted their sex life so with all these caveats having been stated i'd like to challenge you in the audience to ask yourselves why is it that marijuana is not referred to as a sedative why is it that we think of this drug as something profoundly different from an addiction to sleeping pills why is it that we think of marijuana as something profoundly different from an addiction to painkillers now the allegory is always going to be incomplete it's always going to be in part instructive and in part misleading but scientifically speaking objectively part of the effect of marijuana on your brain is sedative abstract cannabis or marijuana became legal for recreational use in colorado in 2012 and this legislation has created both challenges and opportunities in medicine more patients are using cannabis and more patients are now willing to admit cannabis use than in the past so this increases the likelihood that they will be forthcoming about drug use during medical questioning cannabis use may have implications during medical care including procedural sedation some of you might know if you have built up a tolerance to painkillers before you go in to have surgery you could have the horrifying experience of going through surgery without sedation without relief from pain because your body was already accustomed to such a high dose of that type of drug on a daily basis so it's important to be honest with your doctors and the doctors may not know how to sedate you or how to provide you with anesthesia if that is the case so the inquiry that this medical journal article is pursuing is the question of whether or not marijuana use produces a similar tolerance to sedatives to sedation can you guess can you guess what the answer is medical records from 250 patients were reviewed and researchers found that compared with people who did not regularly use cannabis people who regularly use cannabis required an amount of sedation for endoscopic procedures that was significantly higher it's very difficult to challenge the glamorization of drug use in our culture and in our times i know better than anyone i know just as well as you that by presenting drugs as something dangerous and exciting and edgy you could end up glamorizing them all the more even when you're really trying to warn people this can ruin your life marijuana is in some ways the most storied drug in our culture right now and if you doubt that keep in mind bob marley was one of the most influential musicians of the 20th century i think snoop dogg not far behind how many songs were on the radio even when the drug was illegal you know during my youth constantly reiterating catchphrase smoke weed every day constantly glamorizing this as something rebellious as something liberating and in many many cases drug is believed to even have kind of profound philosophical significance in people's lives i recently criticized one of the leaders of black lives matter for taking that position wouldn't it be in some ways useful if we could bring marijuana down to earth by classifying it as and insisting on it being not recreational [Laughter] not even a hallucinogen because for most people it isn't not psychedelic now there's a storied word what if we could start to educate the public about marijuana addiction as something that really is analogous to getting hooked on sedatives getting hooked on sleeping pills getting hooked on painkillers and as with all of these other forms of addiction the telltale sign is that you build up tolerance you need more and more of a dose in order to even get the same response wanted to talk about uh the antidepressants i'm on why i took them um briefly go over my history of depression side effects i've had stuff like that it's been a little over a year now i think um or close to a year i can't remember my memory is [ __ ] right now but it's been um close to a year that i've been on antidepressants uh my doctor recommended that i try an snr which stands for serotonin norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor so it's not an ssri it's an snri and it's called pristique i believe the generic name for the medication is dixeniflaxin as soon as i started taking it literally the first day i felt normal it was weird when i'm in a depressive state i feel like i can't experience any joy or happiness activities that i normally really like i just feel nothing it feels like i'm completely dead inside and there's no reason to exist and i just had this constant pain of existence and literally the first day i started taking them i felt good it was weird i was like playing video games and i'm like oh my god i'm enjoying this uh i was relaxing watching movies with jasmine and i was and i just felt like wow i'm enjoying myself and i'm happy so they're not like literal magic happy pills that um i don't know it's not like a drug like high where you get some sort of temporary euphoric sense it just makes at least for me this is my experience on them it just makes me feel normal as far as side effects though had some issues with side effects recently and i'll get into that but when i first started taking them i was on 50 milligrams a day um initially what i noticed was really really bad fatigue uh that ended up going away after about a week um as soon as i'd take like a pill it would pretty much knock me out and i'd have to sleep for at least three or four hours that went away after about a week and i had sort of normal wakefulness during the day i could sleep fine um i also noticed a reduction in penile sensitivity just slightly it wasn't harder to get an erection but it was just a slight slight reduction in sensitivity it was a little tiny bit harder to orgasm but again that went away after about two weeks and that was oh yeah and uh hunger my appetite went down massively that took a little little while longer to normalize i just did not feel hungry and i had to make sure that i planned my meals ahead of time i couldn't rely on just normal hunger signals to tell me when to eat and that took about a month to normalize now the only problem i've had recently i ended up upping the dose of the medication from 50 milligrams to 100 milligrams the reason that ended up happening was um i ended up having um like psychotic symptoms for a week i was having hallucinations um i was just acting very erratically and um i went to the doctor to talk about it because obviously that's pretty concerning uh she recommended that i up the dose of the medication uh again from 50 milligrams to 100 milligrams turns out i i i guess i still have to figure it out but i don't think it was necessary i think i was just suffering from cabin fever um i have been getting a really annoying side effect from the prosthetic medication i'm on which is just uh insane exhaustion at 100 milligrams for whatever reason i'm just [ __ ] tired constantly no matter how much i sleep no matter how much i rest um even when i don't train i sleep all day and i just relax i'm still just dead tired and that's one of the reasons why i haven't been posting many videos um well any videos really even my streams i haven't been setting up goals on the stream to stream longer because i'm just dead [ __ ] tired constantly and i might just have like a really really bad wave of fatigue where i just can't keep streaming [Music] oh god i'm so tired [Music] oh why does this happen [Music] [Music] it happened the other day where i was planning to do a really long stream at least 12 hours but i think at like around four or five hours i was just dead and i had to uh just call it off and just sleep and one last thing i wanted to talk about uh if you're ever on a medication like this do not miss doses holy [ __ ] um really bad idea so because of the fatigue it's super annoying like i can't do anything right um sometimes i even struggle like getting up to train so um i thought okay what if i just take two days off the medication and i'll see if i have any more energy because the fatigue was just frustrating me so much i literally couldn't get up to do anything so i took two days off of taking my meds really bad idea uh as soon as i did that like on the second day i had really really strong suicidal urges i came within an inch of attempting suicide and i had to ask jasmine to hide all of the sharp objects in the house i decided to take antidepressants out of pure desperation i wasn't actually expecting them to work so activation of mania hypomania i don't have that cardiovascular cerebral disease this is all for sure about a week like like like isil again you can look at like this is the side effects of [ __ ] vitamin c like you don't know what you're talking about you you can find side effects of any medication so like any food any food ingredients this doesn't mean anything note the use of the passive voice he says it went away as opposed to i developed increasing tolerance to the effect of the drug um i didn't that's not what happened he he's saying i developed increasing tolerance well no just those side effects went away yeah he's just he's just mixing around my words so um i had headaches i think when i first started taking pristiq um i had a little bit of reduction penile sensitivity [ __ ] like that and then it ended up going away i didn't get headaches the tiredness drowsiness went away um penile sensitivity went to normal so he's saying i developed increasing tolerance well no just those side effects went away the only reason my doctor recommended i up my dose was because i randomly ended up getting [Music] like uh symptoms of psychosis where i was feeling paranoid um i was having some hallucinations so she thought it might be a good idea to try it up the dose and it wasn't i just had extreme exhaustion so then i went back down to a lower dose but uh the symptoms of psychosis went away after a week so okay well uh isil's [ __ ] i mean really people like to disrespect my crew but the fact is that you know my name and i don't know you it's easy to say that science and religion are two different things it's a little bit less easy to recognize the extent to which we live with what we think of as science and what we think of as religion in exactly the same way if you have a friend if you have a family member who believes in the christian faith ask them just try to ask them how is it possible for you to believe that this book is the sacred word of god sometimes it's one thing to believe the whole book cover to cover is the word of god it's another thing to dismiss the whole book say the whole thing is nonsense but you know what really makes it intolerable to break bread with christians is that they pick and choose not just within the same tome but sometimes from one sentence to the next within say uh ecclesiastes within paul's epistle to the romans and so somehow this sentence they believe in and not that one they pick and choose when the sacred word of god matters and when it does not what i have to ask you richard is what is your relationship to science isn't it fair to say at this point that you only use science when it suits your purpose to bully and denigrate and humiliate others isn't it true that you've spent years doing selective readings of research of studies of peer-reviewed paper only when it suits your agenda and that your agenda most of the time is really just to hurt someone else's feelings and that when the findings of science are inconvenient for you when they hurt your feelings just like one of those religious people who consciously or unconsciously filters the passages of the bible they're willing to take seriously when it challenges your emotional equilibrium you have no interest in science at all one of my other colleagues one of my other contemporaries one of my other rivals here on youtube is called unnatural vegan she's really interested in science when it lets her preen and boast make a great public display of her intellectual superiority over others but when it makes her feel stupid when it makes her feel powerless when it makes her feel immoral when it makes her feel like she's placing her own health in danger when she's placing her own infant child's health in danger when she's damaging the health of her own son or daughter and there are peer-reviewed papers that back that up she has just as little interest in seeing it just as little capacity to hear it as the christians in dealing with the fact that their sacred text endorses slavery [Music]