TkyoSam: Un-Vegan Weight Loss Advice.

19 December 2017 [link youtube]



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in terms of the benefits of the vegan
diet keeping all the way real with you Sam I think the main way people on the internet misrepresent the vegan diet is that if you're talking about the the peaks and valleys in life talking about life as you know sometimes you're happy and doing well so miserably most people try to promote veganism in terms of the peak experience in terms of how great it is when you're at the top of that peak something just mean and the times when I really value the benefits the vegan diet it's the exact up it's when you're at when you're at rock-bottom which it your worst but I think several times babe even what we've been together so you started my girlfriend off cameras babe I'm not addressing my YouTube audiences babe but I mean I've been really sick several times since we've been together and we're I'm sick and because I'm sick I'm not sleeping properly I'm not exercising properly I'm not eating properly and then you know look I drag myself out of bed and have a shower and look in the mirror and I'm like oh I'm actually still in good shape the times that I've really valued the vegan diet is when I'm in a terrible situation psychologically also you know going through a really really tough patch in your life and you realize like I'm aware because I remember what it was like to be a meteor I'm aware how much worse off I'd be if I were on a standard American diet about reading meat and cheese and that kind of thing going to sleep hungry waking up on great feeling cold you did all that stuff loving a full time job right or will be yeah yeah yeah and finding a diet and workout routine that fits into your your daily life yeah but look and just bring it back to being at the subway station and not buying that doughnut of ethically ecologically and politically I totally feel motivated enough to never eat another doughnut you know what I mean that kind of spontaneous way because of veganism what veganism is what it means to me but I mean you have to decide are you motivated enough to do that in order to lose weight probably not that's probably why you're over 300 pounds now right so if you don't have the motivation to do the right thing in order to be slim healthy and attractive the opposite sex he doesn't we've established that with tea Oh Sam that's a known fact maybe he can try being motivated by some of these other factors even if it's just as a thought experiment maybe you can just try living try living as if ethics matters try living as if ecology matters you know try living as if these things matter even if you don't feel it matters and maybe just as a thought experiment that's gonna motivate you to get some of the weight loss results that you can't get by thinking about being slim being healthy being more attractive the opposite sex baddest yen so it entered my mind to make a video of pragmatically under the video talking about diet and weight loss after watching some footage from Takeo Sam so Tiki Oh Sam's guy who's well over 300 pounds and trying to lose weight and he's not vegan and one of things that's interesting to me of reflecting on this I realized that almost nothing I have to say in this video is Pro vegan or positive link to veganism in anyway last night when I was chatting about this with my girlfriend my girlfriend is here but just off camera most of what I had to say was really just aunty vegan in the sense that I mean I've lost patience with the dishonesty of a lot of the respect of all vegan doctors that are out there for example and especially got like John McDougall I feel like about 20% of what mcdougal says is and the province of our times and it really discredits the other 80% of course 80% of what he has to say is true and important and worthwhile but the problem is not just that the minority of things that are not credible discredit the the remainder it's also that a lot of what he says really is misleading and harmful to certain types of people certain types people who don't know to take it with a with a grain of salt so I mean there are vegans who tell you in all due seriousness that they really sincerely that you can never get fat from eating carbohydrates that you can eat an unlimited quantity of bagels and never gain weight and this is just not true they're a bit it's even more common to see on youtube now vegans who claim you can eat unlimited quantities of fruit and never gain weight fruit you know so simple sugars not even complex don't write earth and a large part of the background of this are respectable vegan doctors who you know basically make an argument from volume they talk about just the amount of area in your stomach in your digestive tract and the eating low density foods foods with low caloric density is therefore more filling so that a food like lettuce is much more filling than a food like beef Oh and they'll employ some really dishonest tactics to to press this home and it's especially amusing to me that there's this hard core of respectable vegan doctors who are completely against eating processed food and completely against any eating any food with with oils in it and they argue passionately that fats are not satiating that people don't feel full form eating fat so the say my girlfriend spontaneous the other day we don't eat a lot of donuts but in China they have a traditional kind of Chinese doughnut so it's different from a Western doughnut but fundamentally it's like a piece of bread that's been fried in oil so it mean it is fundamentally the same thing as a doughnut but it's a Chinese tradition of that and I said to Melissa if this were true then you know eating this doughnut would be just as filling to you as you know eating a slice of bread the same size you know that you would subjectively feel just is full and you don't of course you know having fat in your diet is satiating having fat and protein in your diet is a shame when people eat you know most meat products most the popular meat products the reason why they feel satisfied they feel full is that meat contains a ton of protein it contains a ton of fat it normally contains a ton of salt and it's also not easy to digest so your your sense of being full is indeed partly your body struggling with difficult some of those calorie dense foods are to digest and psychologically we grow up in a sense even dependent on that you know that's what we get used to if we grow up eating meat the impact of eating you know steak or hamburgers and you know accompanied by things like french fries french fries also again you know cooked in oil that's what you come to rely on to feel full and then if you switch to a vegan diet or if you even even if it's not vegan you switch to what I've seen takeo Sam tryin to do he cures him he made one video where what he was doing on camera he was doing everything right I mean so he had he had given up doing soda pop and was instead having ice water with yeah lemon and cucumber putting slicing up cucumber putting in ice water and he switched from solid food to eating huge salad he had a huge bowl of salad so trying to fill up on greens well you know psychologically I mean it like the exact opposite of the ton of default being an advice is true for most people most people find steak really filling they find cheesecake really filling and this is one reason why psychologically a lot of people feel you know high fat low carb diets work not that it works scientifically but just psychologically they feel very full when they eat those those those meals and then they can achieve a low-calorie diet they get can achieve a calorie deficit by eating very dense food dense and difficult to digest food it's also food that's incredibly unhealthy but we're not even talking about about health yet and most people who sit need a huge salad you know one hour later you feel hunger again so we've had that experience we've been eating a lot of salad since we came to Thailand on this trip back in China just a few weeks ago we basically never ate salad we had a lot of greens but cooked greens weighed a lot of broccoli a lot of bok choy a lot of steamed and boiled green vegetables in China but we were not eating raw vegetables so here we kind of been binging on salad but Wow just you know by the time we walk home from the restaurant we can be hungry again after eating a huge quantity of of salad so this is a fundamentally insincere thing and I'm not just talking about like informal vegan youtubers or fitness gurus or people selling ebooks of no qualifications like the most respected vegan doctors really try to drive home this argument that one what matters is having low caloric density foods so like lettuce would be the ultimate example of this and then you know - oh right the other crux of this is claiming protein doesn't matter what the hell is up with it I think they only do that because of their opposition of processed foods look if you're vegan and you want to get protein then you're looking at stuff like veggie burgers and hummus and being you know processed beans stuff you know these people some of them are even against drinking stuff like soy milk because soy milk is a process you know probably they want you to eat hold so like e whole whole grains and whole foods only whole vegetables so he goes so there's this kind of hostility to the protein argument which is again totally insincere telling you oh it's no problem to get plenty of protein on a vegan diet yeah right you know come on let's let's keep it all the way real here yeah and and then of course the huge huge hostility to anything containing fat except avocados right like what they're soft on like avocados nuts and seeds if you're trying to lose weight you should never eat ever kind of snots and seeds that's terrible advice like encouraging you to advocate assess things but then anything that has oil anything that's processed and a lot of the processed foods isn't Venus how you're gonna get a more of a dense high protein meal out of a vegan diet something that works with the reality of having a nine-to-five job so that probably works the reality of getting exercise you know if you can and when you can so a lot of the advice that's out there I find is really bad advice now one of Tiki Oh Sam's videos on this also um you know he had advice from Canada jin-san who is a very skinny small young woman I don't know how tall she is but she looks she looks very very small well dimensions I remember just struck me how her advice for him losing weight seemed to me really in applicable for a very big dude so I think he's about 5 foot 10 and now I think he's like well over 300 pounds 320 or 300 50 pounds or something and it's interesting too because a lot of things he says I think he kind of already knows what he needs to do he just isn't doing it he talked a lot about walking as exercise if you're a big heavy dude walking especially carrying weight when you're walking like carry a backpack full of books walking up and down stairs then you're getting a ton of exercise every step you're moving like 300 pounds right now the other side of that though is this is the tragedy of you know severe obesity or being extremely overweight I also heard him in a video a different video that was very very honest you shutout them for being so honest I heard him admitting that now when he goes to the subway station when he goes to the train station like he plans his route to basically be like as a few foot steps as possible he has to plan how he moves to the train station or subway station where he stands and waits where you know how to get a seat in Japan you know the transport is infamous for being very crowded you know not being able to get a seat so he's you know really you know planning every footstep so that's the problem the heavier you are the more effective well just walking can be and can energize everything else going on in your workout in weight loss routine but then also the heavier you are the harder it is to walk and the more you're actually even risking you know injury to your knee and ankle and that kind of thing and he reported that also eat a video mentioning he went dancing and he somehow badly injured his knee you know I don't know the details that's rough so the other thing he was doing right in the same video where he was eating salad he already had a weight bench in the background he already knows how to do you know bench press and other other standard standard exercises and but then the other thing that's funny the riddles of that story is that he's got tattoos so he's repeatedly tried to join gyms in Japan but then as soon as he joins a gym they'll kick him out for having tattoos so I mean the struggle is real my heart you know really goes out to him that's a really really tough fix to be in in terms of weight loss and exercise and obviously apart from YouTube the guy does have a straight job he does you know he does teach and teaching keeps you on your feet he teaches mostly children not adults so we'll be running around off the kids standing up in class and teaching and what-have-you maybe that's also why yes to count is his footsteps as carefully as he does so you know um in terms of the benefits of the vegan diet keeping all the way real with you Sam I think the main way people on the internet misrepresent the vegan diet is that if you're talking about the the peaks and valleys in life talking about life as you know sometimes you're happy and doing well so doing miserably most people try to promote veganism in terms of the peak experience in terms of how great it is when you're at the top of that peak something I mean and the time is when I really value the benefits of the vegan diet it's the exact up it's when you're at when you're at rock-bottom when your worst I just came through a bunch of illnesses including shingles I had my first shingles outbreak like 90% of humanity gets shingles by the way sooner or later in life I had a series of serious illnesses but I think several times babe even while we've been together so I started my girlfriend off cameras babe I'm not addressing my YouTube audiences babe but I mean I've been really sick several times since we've been together and we're I'm sick and because I'm sick I'm not sleeping properly I'm not exercising properly I'm not eating properly and then you know like I drag myself out of bed and have a shower and look in the mirror and I'm like oh I'm actually still in good shape and I'm really surprised like that's really not what I'm expecting to see because I feel like garbage that's really you know for me my experience the times that I've really valued the vegan diet is when I'm in a terrible situation and psychologically also you know going through a really really tough patch in your life and you realize like I'm aware because I remember what it was like to be a meteor I'm aware how much worse off I'd be if I were on a standard American diet if I were eating meat and cheese and that kind of thing so babe I mean veganism as such do you actually feel that it makes the calorie counting any better like in terms of you know the core element of weight loss here we all know yes exercise helps but it's creating a calorie deficit okay yeah well I see yeah right I agree right if you're keeping track of every little like you know having a lot of yep yep yep I mean I'm honest was I have an earlier video called feeling like crap on of eating a diet I think feeling like garbage and a few diet but like you know for real be kind a vegan diet and being in a calorie deficit which is what I was in in Kunming when I was in coming China I went down from like 220 pounds to 190 pounds or some of that you know I forget but I went from over 200 pounds to under 200 pounds and sorry no I forget but I lost 10 or 15 kilograms and it was gaining muscle mass at the same time so I was going to the gym like three times a day sometimes two times day but two and three times a day I was hungry all the time I felt cold all the time like I was I was pretty miserable and like that's not surprising being on a calorie deficit if he can diet I was desperate for any kind of food source I could get I was eating broccoli you've seen video of what I was eating but I'm not gonna claim that's that's easy you know what I mean yep you went to bed hungry and you wake up right in conveyance it's cold there's no there's no eating that's the difference there's no no central heating but yeah yeah but yeah I mean it's funny that's the most obvious thing when you think about it is that nobody talks about the reality of what it's like being on a calorie deficit kind of period and then what why would that be any easier on a vegan diet or let alone on a low-fat vegan diet my vegan diet is low fat all the time and when I gain weight I'm gaining weight off of carbs you know and vegetables and you see what I you know I'm not I'm not gaining weight on chocolate bars when I gain weight not at all I do get my soy milk is the probably the single greatest source of fat in my diet and if I want to lose weight now I can pretty much just eliminate so I'm oh but you've seen that too when I eliminate synote for my diet to lose weight that I'm really hungry and looking for whatever I can possibly get because as a vegan there were just so goddamn few options around for what you can eat right yeah so Mis struggle is real but I mean in terms of the illusion sold by veganism for me part of it is just this illusion that you're gonna feel fabulous when you're at the peak I mean in life you feel fabulous for different reasons you feel fabulous because you have a great sex life you feel good fabulous because you have a great girlfriend or boyfriend you feel fabulous because you know something pauses up there are reasons to feel feel fabulous but I think veganism is nothing to do that and it does if you don't move doesn't raise the the peak experience but when you're down in the the troughs or valleys when you're when you're struggling in a really difficult situation when you're bouncing back from an injury or illness or what-have-you that's when I really had no notice the advantage of the vegan diet and you know something Maude vegan talked about it's definitely true with vegan so I was just complaining about being hungry and having no options but I guess it's also true in terms of your diet you don't have a lot of temptation but once you commit to veganism right like once you're vegan you don't have the option of eating donuts at this at the subway entry you know I mean like at the subway station of the train station tqc I mentioned going to Cinnabon you'll never eat Cinnabon so it does force you a bit more disciplined and plan I mean you can still eat stuff like potato chips but you'll probably buy those potato chips in advance and carry them with you so you know if you know it's it's kind of one discipline versus another right yeah anyway so look I've always said like my reasons for being vegan is ethical ecological doing the right things that's the right thing to do making positive political difference in the world in the way the ways that I can and accepting the ways that I can't you know I've got a million rants about this but no I mean diet and weight loss are really not reasons to become vegan and on the cover of every single you know American magazine on the cover of Cosmopolitan magazine swimsuit magazine you know these all immense Health magazine they all feature images of beautiful people in in you know a wordly great health wearing bikinis or you know muscly men in in shorts and whatever and none of these people are vegan or one in a hundred of them is vegan you know it's it's very obvious that it's possible to achieve those aesthetics now the flip side of that is when you look at the statistics for human health heart attacks can't serve you know uh health of your circulatory system there's this statistic dr. Greger likes to use that vegans who get no exercise at all vegans with a desk job have the same level of health in terms of their heart and circulation as marathon runners who eat meat you know so the advantages we haven't those but that's all invisible you're not gonna see that at the beach you're not gonna see that the runway nobody walks up sequence says Wow your arteries are really unclog well your cholesterol free diet is really uh it really looks great you know you don't see that and you know believe me I find cholesterol terrifying you know in terms of the effects on the brain even more the effects in the the heart and the the veins and what have you throughout your body cholesterol is a terrifying thing to have in your diet and nobody should eat any of it and guess what the only way to have a cholesterol free diet is to be vegan so yeah for some people that you know that might be a compelling reason to be vegan or at least plant-based but the flip side of that is exactly try with the psychology of satiation the psychology of feeling full while you're on a calorie deficit in order to lose weight and you know the ways that work include smoking cigarettes we're just terrible where people find nicotine makes them feel satiated the drinking caffeine which is terrible for you people drink caffeine and they feel less appetite or some people just chew gum or they chew chewing gum that has nicotine use there's weight loss gum and this kind of stuff but yeah a calorie deficit is feeling like you were Nazis sated right yeah right with with those exceptions the truth of being on a calorie deficit going to sleep hungry waking up on great feeling cold you did all that stuff while having a full time job right or will be yeah yeah yeah and finding a diet and workout routine that fits into your your daily life yeah but look and just bring you back to being at the subway station and not buying that doughnut of ethically ecologically and politically I totally feel motivated enough to never eat another doughnut you know what I mean that kind of spontaneous way because of veganism what veganism is what it means to me but I mean you have to decide are you motivated enough to do that in order to lose weight probably not that's probably why you're over 300 pounds now right so if you don't have the motivation to do the right thing in order to be slim healthy and attractive the opposite sex he doesn't we've established that with TGO Sam that's a known fact maybe he can try being motivated by some of these other factors even if it's just as a thought experiment maybe you can just try living try living as if ethics matters try living as if ecology matters you know try living as if these things matter even if you don't feel it matters and maybe just as a thought experiment that's gonna motivate you to get some of the weight loss results that you can't get by thinking about being slim being healthy being more attractive the opposite sex alright a bonus Yin