Q&A with the Vegan Traveler (a Younow broadcaster)

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from pet flips and chill he wants to know what do you think about the future of veganism and where would you like to see it going this is a short answer but it's it's honest I'm actually really optimistic about the future of veganism and that's because the other movements I was involved with in the past were really weak compared to veganism so you you know to some extent I was involved with Buddhism specifically orthodox tera vaada buddhism scholarship of pali etc that's hopeless if you ask me what do you think about the future of Buddhism it's a depressing answer I think it's a really really bad situation for Buddhism right now and for the next 30 years or what-have-you the foreseeable future I was involved with the Green Party I was involved with that kind of you know ecologically defined politically I think that's very depressing next 30 years I think it's really weak it's only getting worse and it's it's pathetic and I think also you could look at an organization like peda People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals and say what what future do they have the next 30 years I think that's also kind of depressing you know they're not gonna collapse but I don't see any bright future I don't think petaa is gonna get more powerful than they already are I just don't see it veganism is very easy for me to be optimistic about it by contrast I really think of the next 30 years we can make something tremendously positive happen and I mean one of the great things about veganism is that not everyone but it kind of puts you into a corner where you have to make things better because you feel that things can't stay the same for you and your personal I'd like to give you an example with a lot of other political beliefs you can just be a middle-class parents who lives in the suburbs and put your kid through school and whatever let's say it's the belief in democracy and you say yeah you know what I believe in democracy but it doesn't really change your life in any way you don't actually try to change the world or save the world you say yeah yeah you know I care about democracy and my kid goes to school and I go to work and I Drive the same car and that's it veganism you're always facing up to these complex whether it's your kids school what's your kid gonna eat at school already it's political already you're drawn into the struck what I mean it's you in the workplace every facet of your life gets politicized where you get backed into a corner where you want to make that change even if you're someone who maybe wouldn't normally be a political activist to me you know that's also a sense in which it's really similar to gay rights you know not every gay person is gonna be an activist but if you live in a country like Saudi Arabia if you live in a country where being homosexual is actually illegal where gays are really being persecuted this is something that affects you it affects your son when your son goes to school it affects you at the office you're backed into a corner where you have to advocate for political change so I do think in that sense veganism has this tremendous dynamism the very very few political movements have and yeah I am really optimistic about it and the bottom line is not everyone's an idiot maybe right now on YouTube the idiots are the loudest voices in the room but no I'm really very very optimistic about the future okay yeah thanks I was a great dancer hey I just say that highlight of the interview that makest did with Convertible snitch you know talking about the the jen journey thing and that's where like the drama just really you know I mean maybe could've like actually killed somebody you know or at the very least like cause you know caused them suffering in their late in their last days sure sure totally that that was really Wow well we trying to move away from that I don't want to be that you know I mean somebody in here I had a problem with like shingles you only mean and so we've spent like in half an hour everybody talking about this is how for like keep outbreaks down this is what you do when you get an outbreak like this is the thing to boost your immune system you know what I mean not just saying oh well you're a troll or whatever you only mean like cancer is something even a million times you know more dangerous than you know something like shingles so like this kind of thing like help each other let's build each other let's support each other let's nurture each other so I think though I think maybe it doesn't make money but it makes a lot of sense right all right but I mean like this is the thing the amount of money involved is nothing compared to working at Starbucks anyway like if I work a regular job at Starbucks I can make $14 an hour what my patreon makes $10 a day like let's get you know the money is not an excuse and people use it as an excuse people including cheetah say what I'm doing is immoral but I'm doing it for money therefore it's okay so that's that is already you know deeply deeply problematic in terms of the gender anything I would say there's a so basically we're talking about is people being mean-spirited people being opportunists and people being Fame [ __ ] if we keep me over that's the problem with the ginger tea situation but what's interesting to me is we actually had that problem both before and after her death so like if I look at someone like durianrider jumping on the ginger nice story before her death to me the problem is one he's being mean-spirited too he's just being an opportunist he's just trying to get views out of this and three he's basically being a Fame [ __ ] like that no point was he sincerely concerned about a scam you know taking people is ridiculous I mean like you know he pretends that he really was concerned about being scam same with with me in my lawsuit same with all kinds of other stuff he pretends there's a yo scene with the thing with Julia bore he pretends he was sincerely concerned that I was dating this woman I've never met never had a conversation with or anything ridiculous but he pretends there's some legitimate ethical reason from they involved but in reality one it's mean-spirited - its opportunistic three-issue say Maureen but then after Jen has died I think the same thing is happening and including people like vegan cheetah like does vegan cheetah actually have something positive or important or worthwhile to say about Jen journey and a natural vegan I don't think so and you know me and unnatural vegan are not friends but all I see going down is more Fame whoring more opportunistic behavior you know it's just it's just more nonsense so like you know the motivation you have for what you do matters the way that you do it matters you know so you can look at any of these controversies that are mostly just fake anyone is actually concerned about vegan mojo sex life if anyone is actually concerned about Jason Pacino sex life I think that would create a very different video because like probably in your life probably you've had friends like people you really know really poor you were actually concerned there was something bad going on in their sex life or just they were they were messing up their own life like you know something something regrettable was happening like man man you don't see the problem with this right now but you know you're in love with this girl and it's ruining your life in real life people go through that with friends but this stuff that's happening right now in vegan YouTube it's mean-spirited its counterproductive I think it really is damaging the movement short term maybe long term we'll see we'll see long term and like I'm someone who's just trying to make something positive happen and there is no way I can let this garbage dilute you know the content on my channel of it anymore and like you know people post common little why don't you do another video about durianrider or another update on the case once you do another video about vegan cheetah saying something he knows isn't true and something I already dealt with four months ago why don't I do another video on some drama so you know I actually want to produce original meaningful thought-provoking content that I would find interesting that my viewers find interesting that people still find it interesting ten years now and I actually want to move this movement forward towards making real difference in the world we have some advantages over other movements historically it's a huge advantage that I'm talking you right now huge advantage over what people dealt with just 10 20 years ago where people would write each other letters and never meet for years political activists in the past they didn't get to talk like this they didn't have these kinds of connections or you'd have to spend thousands of dollars attending a conference you know to fly somewhere attend a conference just to meet someone for 20 minutes you know what I mean it's wonderful what what communications technology has done for this movement present ends the future is wonderful and I know the difference because I was involved with activism before the internet or before the internet became very powerful back when it was just email kind of thing you know but it is also really sad that this is set up this negative hostile competitive scandal-mongering situation that's I know I know because I know these people personally I know it is impacting people's lives firstly I know it's impacting people's sex lives negatively and I know it's impacting their political eyes negatively so I you know was somehow we got to outgrow it somehow we got to overcome I last night I was talking about the the scandal with eyes on his divorce his wife this is another thing with you know having my my youtube channel you know aisel wife or somebody saying that was his wife like oh no you know I mean like you can't make this [ __ ] up it did he have an Australian accent in any way she had perfect English in life just the way she talked it wasn't just something basic ass you know Thai fruit cult member calling me [ __ ] with me it was but in the comment section you know several times people were like you're literally a piece of [ __ ] and then you start wondering you start thinking like am i a piece of [ __ ] like myself in the mirror and actually you know am i okay with being a piece of [ __ ] let me listen it's getting late here on the East Coast United States I'm still broadcasting I'm not tired I can work like some of the viewers they have some questions so can we maybe feel some questions from the viewers they're very interested you and I mean cool so let's let's do that quick let's do that quick in the wrap it up because I go to the gym a great let's take some questions as viewers and they'll go cool what's your favorite food ask Marissa she uh I know at this point my life I really have no favorite food I really just eat to live you know it's a sad answer but that's the honest truth I get like in general I eat a lot of green vegetables here in China which is good if I have a choice I do that but I mean I I really don't enjoy eating any more of my life which is maybe a bit depressing but that's the truth that's the way I live you know so why waste your time and energy you know what I mean in your you know your life force your life why wasted trying to put during writer in jail this is more to things of what the same you know he's not the enemy he's not the meat and dairy industries not the pharmaceutical companies like the petrochemical companies that do all companies well I spend all this time and energy trying to like put durianrider in jail Oh reality matters truth matters future the vegan movement matters and I've spoken on that at great length in my videos before durianrider took something that's very important to me namely the vegan movement and he dragged its name through the mud in the name of trying to present it as something very glamorous and appealing he hasn't made a glamorous he's made it shameful he's made us into a laughingstock and he personally harmed me he didn't just break the law in an abstract sense it's not a victimless crime it's a very real crime now what do I want to see as an outcome of this I do not like I've said this before I said that's recently to cheat I've said this in other videos the point isn't just that durianrider shouldn't defame me I also do not want schita to defame durianrider or for you know me to defame you or you did a Fame anyone else the point is that's why I called the fundraiser vegans against violence and defamation I wanted to end the violence and defamation within the vegan movement and durianrider had a long proven record of making threats of violence against other people both men and women by the way he has threatened women the same way saying Oh a bunch of carbon up guys here's your address I've posted your address on the internet and I can't be responsible for who's gonna go over said this kind of thing to both men and women made these threats of violence so no threats of violence are a real problem within the vegan movement somebody has to stand up and say this is wrong and this should stop it turned out it to be me China has to be Hannah Chloe also Hannah Chloe also deserves credit she stood up somebody had to stand up and say no this kind of defamation you know boo Shing doesn't pass it's not acceptable has consequences somebody had to stand up and do that for the future of the vegan movement happened to be me happened to be Hannah Chloe I don't know who else has a case on during right it could be other people during the same time so you know it's a question of doing the right thing for the right reasons and then you don't know the outcomes you know I can put this case forward and you durianrider can be found not guilty or human given a much lighter punishment it's totally possible nothing come from it but me for my part I have to do the right thing for the right reasons I have to tell the truth about this because it's a truth that matters and it doesn't just matter to me it matters to veganism and that's why more than 6500 dollars were donated in less than 48 hours because it matters to a lot of people okay well I mean we can we can talk about this forever you know what I mean but I know time time is kind of limited anyone else I'm Chad have some questions for eyes'll Lazard this is like this is kind of the topic that's on people's minds so okay about like your diet or whatever like so what did you eat today or what are you having today people are you interested what you know I mean what what is eyes'll mazar-e you can watch you can watch my what I eat a day videos I can tell you exactly what I today today I ate a lot of green vegetables with white rice and with a grain called job's tears which you may not know job's tears is a well your viewers may not know jokes yours is a very very healthy food some people consider it a superfood it's a grain that gives you about 4 grams of protein to 1 gram of fat but it's it's not actually a bean it looks like it's a white bean but it's not it's a big fluffy white grain I would I do recommend other vegans look into jobs here is very healthy food so that my meal had more more protein and so I had job steers along with white rice and green vegetables at breakfast I ate some white Chinese buns that are just made out of rice flour they're just made of rice flour and water so it's not really bread in the European sense and oh yeah today I did drink dough Gianna I did drink soy milk some days I don't do because the having too much soy milk has been a problem for me lately but today I also did drink soy milk so that's about it what I eat for dinner is not totally known to me but probably again probably it'll be white rice and green vegetables and something as a protein supplement something like like job's tears but yeah it's it is what it is I'm not going to start selling a diet book you know I cope with the options that I have when I in Canada and I cope with the options here in China so some ways the best time someone is the worst at times in terms of my diet from evil vegan empire asks do you think the meat and dairy eaters need to be thought of as addicts and cult members when formulating ways to approach them okay I'll say honestly I mean I know I've known one guy in my life who really did have addictive behaviors toward food and he had a lot of psychological problems he still does and he is you know he's was enormous ly overweight I think he was 300 pounds of something there are some people there are a few people who really have addictive disorders involving food whether it's meat or not who are compulsive eaters or what have you but that those are real like psychiatric problems the people get help with do I think it is useful to pretend that everyone or the majority of people have those problems no I don't and I think it's counterproductive you know like anything else would be like is it useful to pretend that everyone's an anorexic anorexia is a really serious disorder some people have it some people don't so no III think if you've seen that you've taken interest in that people who genuinely have compulsive eating disorders you know of overeating or obsessively eating or what if you want to say it's very sad frankly and I'm sure it is much more difficult for those people to become vegan but I would not address the question you know for the population in general that way and the vast majority of people I know who make the decision to become vegan or who make the decision to become reduced that area because I also know a lot of people who just become meat avoiding reduced errands just reduce the meat in their diet don't convene I don't think those psychological issues are involved at all so that's just my honest answer keeping it all the way real oh you you can find incredibly cheap apartments but what are your assumptions of foreigners I'll give you an example from Cambodia when I lived in Cambodia I had to pay for an expensive apartment let's say more than 300 US dollars per month because I needed to live in an apartment building that had a security guard because I am a white Western foreigner if I live in a really cheap apartment in camp Odia my apartment will get robbed pretty regularly because I'm a white Westerner now depending on who you are that may not be a problem for me I didn't own anything expensive but if my computer gets robbed I'll lose all my research I'll lose all my work it's a huge problem in my life because of the data that's on the computer I'll lose everything I'm working on on the computer so like when I was in Cambodia I don't have the option of really being in a cheap apartment if you're in a cheap apartment here in China are you comfortable being in an apartment where there's literally no shower where your way to clean yourself is to fill up a bucket with the tap and then pour the water over yourself you know get real so most foreigners who come here want to rent luxury apartments because they want to have a real shower you may want to have air conditioning or heating or other things other luxuries that normal people don't have and you know if you're a cheapskate then you have to ask yourself do you want to spend a lot of time commuting a lot of time riding the bus or like riding the train to get between work and your apartment so again most foreigners don't want that either so if you're being honest yourself what you really want is the most expensive apartment in the middle of the city at a luxury rate etc etc so then it's not gonna be that cheap no matter which city you're looking at but obviously um you know I like a lot of the smaller cities in China I like the smaller cities I've been to I haven't I haven't traveled that much in China I hope wearing the whole time but you know you can live a beautiful life here the questions I asked again and again on my youtube channel is can you live a meaningful life politically can you live a meaningful life ethically and morally and I think you should ask yourself that question whether you're moving to South America or you know Africa or China I'm sure there are some cities in Africa where you can get much cheaper rent than here in China and we're probably if you have some money saved up you can lead a very luxurious lifestyle but you have to ask yourself political and ethical questions you have to ask you're really leading a meaningful life so for me short term this is a meaningful life but I have my own questions about that too I'm not I'm not planning to live in couldn't aim for the rest of my life I'm just here to learn Chinese and go right alright this is great we have so many questions yeah how many people are really interested in you know they really have a lot of questions for you do you still have time or okay okay we're coming up on we're coming in one hour but I mean I'm surprised you guys want to hear about China you wanna hear put some erasers I use I don't mind what okay okay if they're okay if they're meaningful questions I'm happy to do it if we got ten more questions about durianrider maybe we can skip it because I think I already gave you a pretty long answer on that but sure if you got something meaningful let's let's do it okay well it was one question was what do you feel is the most effective type of activism Wow great question great question but you know so I can give a corny answer the most effective type of activism is the activism that fits into your daily life right so for me in China right now I have to look at what I can do and for me part of the answer was already mentioned I can make a children's story book written in both English and Chinese because I'm learning Chinese so I actually wrote it originally in Chinese I translated the Chinese in English and now I'm talking illustrators been publishing a book is that the best form of activism in the world no but it's what I can do now as a divorced parents living in China you know still in university et cetera et cetera I'm in these kind of peculiar circumstances if you are an architect the answer is very different than if you are a movie star or if you work at Starbucks and I mean you you yourself Leonard you're uh you're working in catering and I talked earlier I think actually you being on YouTube and you now and you connecting with people in the film industry and in the catering industry and the food industry I think you could actually come up with some really exciting possibilities based on the synergy between the people you're connecting in your life but you know I think everyone already knows this about me I'm always pushing people to question the assumption that protesting on the street is effective activism it almost never is once in a long while there's something really effective you can do on the streets but in general you have to realize that screaming at people on the street is really the kind of last desperate measure for people who have no other alternatives no other meaningful form of activism available to them and you know emotionally I can sympathize people who feel that way and want to do that but we all have to look at getting organized and making a difference normally starting you know where you live normally starting with community activism with figuring out what resources you can use in your city or in your town and that's that's it the most effective activism is gonna be the activism you can actually do given your daily life your job your financial commitments how much time and money you've got what languages you speak etc etc so for me I mean nobody seems to think about my future I get all this kind of nonsense hate mail and stuff you know because of what's going on right now but my options will change forever if I can speak Chinese your options will be different forever if you speak Spanish or if you speak Hebrew you know there's this huge scene for veganism in Israel which is what it is so you know your options yeah baby your options as an activist are gonna be so different based on these obvious things right and so you know you gotta you got to be analytical and look at your own life and look you know don't don't ever take yourself out of the equation don't think that you're just an anonymous person you got to really look at what you got to give and some people don't have a lot to give but you know not everyone is a bikini model so don't pretend you're a bikini model on YouTube whatever it is you've got to contribute be honest about it and I think there will be other people who want to get organized with you you want to cooperate with you this might be sound like a cheeseball question but a lot of people are very very interested a lot of people want to know what kind of music do you listen to what's what can you can you tell us a little bit about this I know it seems like it's but people are interested sure sure sure sure I know I don't I I think I think most people know I mean as an adult I've really only listened to rap music now for many many years in the distant yeah yeah in the distant past like let's say my first year of university after I finished high school I would still listen to both I would listen to both rap music and classical music specifically by Bach Johann Sebastian Bach but only only by Bach I really do not I really do not like classic music Angele it was just Bach and I used to listen to you some of the other genres related to rap music that aren't rap genre called rare Groove so stuff that's a little bit closer to your funk I used to listen to funk music and rare groove but then you know within a pretty short time rap music was a bigger and bigger percentage of the music I listen to and I mean by the end of university I was all I listened to was was rap music and you know it felt a lot more important in my life after I moved to Laos after I was living in Southeast Asia when I was living in Laos I would really go for long periods of time without speaking English at all where you know the Lao language was really the language I was speaking every day so the only time I would hear English being spoken was when I was listening to rap music especially the only time I hear English being spoken well you know you didn't loud you might go to the market and somebody says to you you know you might have a simple conversation in the in English about how much something costs at the market when you buy something so you know it already was important to me in other ways but it grew even more than so know now um you know as a fully grown man all I listen to is is rap music and I mean there was a brief period of my time my life when my when my daughter was born and when we hadn't gotten divorced yet I was staying here on my daughter when I did not listen to rap music because obviously most of it as course language and where I thought okay now that my daughter is born maybe for like 10 years I'm gonna stop listening to rap music just cuz you know you're taking care of your kid you don't you don't really want that kind of music playing well you know you take care of your kid I thought I might have 10 years of not listen to rap music but as you know I ended up getting divorced instead so rap music again became a pretty constant feature in my life but no it's just something most people watch my channel know about me because I've gotta grab music playing on my channel but I come from downtown Toronto and Toronto you know has its own little hip-hop culture it's you know it's not that surprising for anyone who comes from big city um other than like andre 3000 can are there any other like vegan rappers out there yeah so back when I had the blog I actually made a list I was actually keeping a list going of different rappers who are vegan I think the reality is there's a large number of rappers who support veganism but who are not actually vegan there is one song really the vegan rap song is called Animal Farm spelt PHA RM so hold on just don't want to get the rapper's name wrong yeah Lupe Fiasco yeah that was a Lupe Fiasco track so Lupe Fiasco yes so it's a five minute racket you're longer you can get the lyrics online you can hear it on YouTube but also you a YouTube video others but you know so it's a very interesting track if you go through the lyrics as text it's a full of very dense metaphors for ethics of animal exploitation veganism these issues but is Lupe Fiasco actually vegan I believe the answer is no I think if you look on the internet you'll see that he wears leather shoes and this kind of thing little B is another example little B has repeatedly said he supports veganism he's actually been a part of some vegan projects but he's not vegan and he does still wear leather and I believe he still eats meat once in a while I think is registered so it's interesting within whoo tang the majority of the members of Wu Tang who are still alive they have supported vegetarianism or semi veganism but again they all wear leather they've never really been vegan and they even have lyrics you know alluding to that so there's a large number of rappers who draw attention to veganism but very very few that who are actually committed to veganism in practice now you mentioned Andre 3000 to me he's not vegan either and I can tell you why if you go to his fashion line he's had more than one line of clothes over the years I think every every fashion line he had had either leather or fur or both and I don't really even hear him repping veganism as a diet so again I think he falls into the same pattern where you know they talk about the ISM they support veganism his idea but they don't really do it see I'd like to know about the Snowden poster and his thoughts on WikiLeaks cool okay so let's make that the last question then I'll go to the gym I gotta shave and go to the gym cool look the Snowden poster I got for free I picked it up basically out of the garbage in at a movie theater uh so it's not literally the garbage that movie theater they would they would take down their old posters and put them in a kind of pile for anyone who wanted them but it's basically for free and when I got the poster I recognized that word Snowden but I hadn't seen the movie it's a terrible movie it's a really boring movie um you know in terms of what Snowden symbolizes or can symbolize I think it's the same thing you guys can see on my channel you know I have the 15 minute video up of me talking to vegan cheetah and the title of the video is something like you know a matter of principle was like look this is about the principle of the thing and you know Edward Snowden I'm sure he's done bad things in his life also but he really decided to sacrifice his life for a matter of principle he felt that you know this question of the government spying on people was a matter of principle that was so important that he was willing to sacrifice his really his life for it and go to jail for the rest of his life instead of being in jail now he's in an apartment in Russia or whatever so you know it's very rare in the history of the Western world that you have anyone who does that or anything like that who stands up on pointed principle and says you know this matters more than my life or this matters more than my comfort beyond that do I have a whole lot of respect for the guy not really but it's just interesting it's an interesting footnote in history and that's you know that's what he'll be remembered for I have a meaning when you look into some of the fine print of what he did and how he did it you know he's not a perfect human being nobody is etc etc you know will will WikiLeaks changed the world I don't know I doubt it but I mean people have had their heads in the sand about that when I was in Canada there was a woman who was apparently murdered you know she disappeared and was presumed to have been murdered and I remember the government played this clip on the news and it was a clip of her voice the last recorded last her last known location last night recorded voice which was her using someone else's cellular phone so she was hitchhiking so a random stranger gave her a ride and she used the stranger's phone to make a phone call like to tell her friend that she would get there soon or something right now I remember talking to people and at that time the WikiLeaks scandal was fresh in people's mind someone said to them you must realize the Government of Canada is recording every single phone call from every single person and has all of them in a searchable database because there is no other way they could have this clip it's not from her phone it's from a random strangers phone and people were just people are just asleep about it people are just sleepwalking and for me there are other ethical questions raised by it for me what I wonder is okay in this case it's a good thing they're doing a murder investigation it's a good thing that the government has access to that data but what if I want access to it what if I have a moral reason why I have to go to court the government has this power to play a recording of anyone's voice from any telephone conversation and I don't and you don't who has the power to render a request saying look this is something important me it may not be murder but it may be a murder case I don't know who shot 2pac any murder case you want I want to go through the government's database of these phone recordings so I can try to find evidence that relates to my case or my problem who makes that decision currently there is absolutely no you know due process for that there's no democratic answer that question because those questions were never asked back when the Constitution's were written for countries like United States of Canada so there are a lot of really interesting deep long-term questions about that but you know if we're living in a future with no secrecy me me personally I'm comfortable with that I really don't mind if you know my recorded phone conversations are available to the government of China to the Government of Canada I do not mind that there were other people who definitely do mind that I understand that that perspective but we also need to mature as a civilization and among the other things we need to do is mature past exactly the kind of scandal mongering that somebody like vegan cheetah is engaging in right I don't know do you have a phone snippet of me you're gonna take out of context about my sex life or something like you know everybody's got next girlfriend everybody's got a love life everyone's got private life we have to develop new codes of conduct new attitudes new expectations for journalists for the government for ourselves as individuals you know for how we're gonna live with the availability of information that formerly was not available and I think I'm talking about it all the time now because even when I say like look you know if somebody's making up a story based on some snippet of information or something you have to weigh that in the balance with my actual written articles with my peer-reviewed publication with the information that's on my youtube channel you know a human being has to be worth more than a soundbite a human being has to be worth more than a slanderous remark or a quotation take or you know a quotation taken from a Twitter or feed or two sentences in an internet forum you know there has to be some level of sympathy and responsibility for what you're doing to another human beings life when you attack them this way and to me I know it sounds corny but to me that actually links Edward Snowden back to the vegan cheetah the questions we have going on in the vegan digital demi-monde right now okay look it's been great talking to you okay we go if you want to address your critics no there's a control type questions I mean you know I know you you know you've given us a lot of time and I do appreciate that but if you want it if you want to if not you know look I'll say no no it's cool it's quick and but then I'll go but look I would have said in my channel before I'll say again now I can't spend my time talking to the stupidest ten percent of my viewers because then my whole channel will just become stupid that'll be the kind of thing you deal with again and again so you know I need for you also for you on on you now and for you on YouTube and your future you have to ask yourself those questions um I don't know maybe if you're pursuing a mass audience then you do answer whatever the majority of your viewers ask or even what the stupidest people ask maybe the most entertaining are the most outrageous questions but for me I mean like I actually have a list of topics here like on paper that I've wanted to make a video about and that I haven't had time to make a video about yet none of them are replies to my credit you know what you know their their different philosophical and political questions that I really think are a meaningful contribution but you know see you asked me before you know how much time do I want to waste dealing with you know the legal cases during writer and I agree with you I don't I don't want to spend a lot of time with that there are other things I would prefer to do with my time the other things that are more important for me but then if you ask the question how much of my time do I want to spend answering my critics the answer is like zero especially given the level well given the level of stupidity and malice of my critics and again I mean that's that's one of the reasons to be disappointed with someone like a natural vegan I encouraged her I said look you want to criticize me great go ahead but you know really deal with the issue really deal with the substance issue whether that's castration of dogs or the fact that I'm a lousy scholar of Buddhism or that I secretly work for the CIA whatever your criticism of is of me if it's actually intelligence and you know well-intentioned it's not just malice it's not just okay great maybe that's really interesting but no that's not what I get on YouTube or or elsewhere on the Internet no I mean there's just complete nonsense out there and then there's my struggle and the struggle of a number of other youtubers to really provide something meaningful and stimulating that advances the movement yes but also just provides quality entertainments to human beings who are washing the dishes and who are walking on the treadmill at the gym alone in the world because that's the reality of this podcast what we're recording right now people are gonna listen to it while they're washing the dishes people are gonna listen to while they're on the treadmill and they do not want to hear the same thing they've already heard 10 times 20 times you know and whether that's me answering my critics or otherwise you know um if you don't have anything meaningful to say don't come on YouTube but I do I all the time every day there are more things I want to say that are really fresh and original and that I haven't said before but no it's not answering my critics alright great talking to you Leonard and I hope I talk to you again I'm gonna put this up my channel to promote you so all the really cynical over educated vegans are gonna come around and check out your you know broadcast man okay I appreciate it too man I appreciate doc do you ah bah Luo Yin