LET'S GET RAPEY! Vegan Gains vs. Tofu Goddess. #MeToo

27 January 2020 [link youtube]


Should I even bother giving the links to the videos by Vegan Gains & Tofu Goddess? (1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCyENUoLrUQ (2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db_oJfqeezk

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she was cuddling on the couch with
William the young woman is not cuddling up with the man in this picture she is in fact sitting as far away from him on the couch as is humanly possible and she doesn't look happy she's not flirting with him she's not cuddling up with him right she looks pissed off V Gaines insists on describing this as her cuddling up with him but what's even more telling is that richard is implicitly lying to you because he pretends that she hasn't addressed this she replies explaining really what you can see in the photo itself she's not cuddling up with him on the couch it's just not true this is an 18 year old Mexican girl telling him directly she did consent to kissing she didn't consent to vaginal sex she didn't consent to anal sex there are some guys in some cultures who take the attitude oh if you open the door a crack I'm gonna put my foot in the door and I'm gonna push the door the rest of the way open okay well if you do that if if that's how you play the game the game of love you will end up in horrible situations like William that you'll regret for the rest of your life if you're not a complete jackass and that the woman will regret for the rest of her life so don't do it don't take that attitude we're talking about sex and self-awareness and cultural differences here clashes between mutually incomprehensible cultures a lot of deep topics to cover and what could be a shallow and Cadi video richard was pretty honest and open about his sex life his sexual history four or five years ago he was pretty honest and open about the fact that before he met his wife the woman he married he really had no experience with conventional relationships with conventional dating he even stated publicly none of this was private he stated publicly many times that he had no interest in conventional sex period if you guys have been following his YouTube channel for long time you can remember him stating bluntly and angrily that he had no interest in vaginal intercourse I'm just gonna give him credit for that earlier period on his YouTube channel because in general I think back then he was being as honest as he could you know and now frankly he's being dishonest with himself as well as being dishonest with his audience she won't provide evidence for any of these claims William on the other hand he was actually able to provide photographic and video evidence you know strongly suggesting that they were having a normal consensual relationship during this time and actually the photo and video that I'm posting on screen right now this was taken after Adriana claims that William anally raped her so it doesn't sound very likely that Adriana was anally raped and then literally the day after she was cuddling on the couch with William and a few days later just getting drunk at a bar having a grand old time with the rapist who anally raped her it's deeply dishonest to say as he says that this is a picture of the two people cuddling up on the couch she was cuddling on the couch with will right he says that repeatedly as a self-evident fact he's being dishonestly for one thing you just look at the picture the young woman is not cuddling up with the man in this picture right and he's a short guy but still she is in fact sitting as far away from him on the couch as is humanly possible and again this guy I've seen photographs of him I've seen a footer of him standing next to Wayne's young and he looks like he's half a foot shorter than Wayne so he's a short guy but he has stretched out the full length of his legs and looks like his torso also along the length of this couch they are as far apart as they can possibly be but vegan gains says to you the audience that this is proof of them cuddling up together she was cuddling on the couch with William and by the way in terms of the narrative we know they're not alone there are at least two other people in this apartment with them this temporarily rented apartment so this is a room where there were probably two or three other adults in the room and she's sitting as far away from him as she can he's all the way stretched out and she doesn't look happy she's not flirting with him she's not cuddling up with him right she looks pissed off but she has her hand over the foot that it's nothing flirtatious but this vegans insists on describing this as her cuddling up with him but what's even more telling is that Richard is implicitly lying to you because he pretends that she hasn't addressed this now some of the discussion of this controversy on the Internet has been in French but the woman in the picture she addressed this in English and her reply to it was posted on the Internet in many places we can be certain Richard saw it including Williams own website Williams set up a website to clear his name argue us out of the case okay so Richard is again concealing something from you the audience he's either being dishonest with you or I think more likely he's being dishonest with himself quote can you also explain this photo and she replies explaining really what you can see in the photo itself she's not cuddling up with him on the couch it's just not true you can read this in full yourself you want to and she just says she was uncomfortable and she was with a team of people working on this animal rights project and she didn't know what to do and if you jump down to the bold text at the bottom of the screen shot here this is what I think is most interesting and most telling and again Richard just does not have the depth of experience nor the capacity for compassion that's required to appreciate this she says here the only thing that she said yes to was kissing that's not a pass for touching my body seriously though I don't know if there's something in French culture that makes you think you have power over people's bodies okay now look I actually don't think the crucial issue here is the age gap issue okay is it 18 year old girl from Mexico 18 year old adult woman whatever you want to say 18 okay you can be in this same kind of situation with a 30 year old woman it happens you can be in this case there are really serious cultural differences not just differences in terms of age where look I used to be married to a French woman I have experience in France with French culture there are some cultures where if you consent to kissing that is going to be interpreted as consent to go all the way and there's some cultures where that's not true at all where it's normal to just consent to kissing or just consent to cuddling or just consent to oral sex just consent to going halfway I mean in English we have these phrases like first base to second base and even just within Europe it can be very difficult to negotiate even explicitly and sympathetically what those boundaries and barriers and degrees of commitment are degrees of of consent are like what do you consider in some cultures if you consent to go into someone's apartment like that's it that's consent for sex and in some that's not true at all it's like well you agreed to go to the apartment but that just means you're gonna drink coffee and talk I was learning to be an English teacher I was taking formal classes in the teaching of English okay where I was getting qualified to be a language teacher and there was a woman who worked at the front desk I assumed she was a receptionist of that special Institute special language training facility and if she were your type she would be a perfect ten she had a very round face and she had enormous breasts and her job as a receptionist every day she wore really revealing really provocative outfits that really showed off her breasts I mean I would show up in that place and that was not on my mind like I wasn't into it or whatever and often I'd kind of walk in and go past the desk to the classroom or go to the office to talk to the manager the the owner I guess whatever the guy who was in charge and still in that few seconds walking by you think well that was not what I was expecting to see it was stimulating it I think it had a shocking effect on most of the heterosexual men in that building not everybody's type but if she were your type that will never be a perfect tan she was stunningly beautiful in her way there were a lot of immigrants from the Muslim world coming into that language institute to learn English or improve their English okay and she would respond to these guys hitting on her and like some of these guys they were like conservative Muslims or they were straight up proposing marriage respective like these were guys who you know they don't drink alcohol they don't have sex out of marriage and they meet this woman and they're like hey I can introduce you to my grandparents and we can and again he'll really blame them her way of responding to this I mean I wouldn't even call it flirting her way of responding to these propositions of proposals was to kind of bat her eyes look down and say oh well you know I'm busy you know she would be kind of evasive and flirtatious and I think I think she was flattered I think she enjoyed the attention and she kind of encouraged it but she would kind of English would say she she would demure or something I don't know but a lot of those guys they interpreted this just as encouragement like wow they need to try harder they need to be more assertive than he to you know they need to really propose marriage and once I wanted the office of the guy in charge it was I guess the owner and principal or manager whatever the guy was in charge of Institute and he described to me how he took one of these guys aside who was really being more assertive flirting with her hitting on the the receptionist and he said to her you know she's married and the guy was devastated not devastated because he was in love with this girl he was devastated because in terms of his cultural values he regarded himself as having committed a terrible evil offense and he had no idea and he said why didn't she tell me she was married like why did she from his perspective she flirted with him in a cruise like it was mind-blowing to him because he had never dealt with that cultural barrier before he had no idea that like a white english-speaking woman might respond in this kind of evasive flirty flattered way if she were married from his perspective he had committed a serious offense against her he had committed a serious offense against her husband like he thought her husband might want revenge on him like if the husband found out if she told her husband that her husband might want to beat him up or something and he felt he was a religious guy he felt he had committed an offense against God and he should like pray for forgiveness kind of thing you know again I don't even which Muslim subculture that guy was from but you can imagine crossing over these cultural barriers is in many ways more difficult than the barrier between an 18 year old and a 30 year old like the age gap barrier if it's within the same culture and within the same language okay this is an 18 year old Mexican girl telling you directly she did consent to kissing she didn't consent to vaginal sex she didn't consent to anal sex and that this photograph he does not show them cuddling up on the couch this is consistent with her story and let's be clear she is not the best advocate possible for her own story she's not a lawyer she's not terribly sophisticated or worldly herself she's not a great philosopher I mean look I don't come on the internet and give you my analysis of which athletes are and are not using steroids and performance-enhancing drugs not my area of expertise not my area of experience I have the self-knowledge and self-awareness to say I would not be terribly good at that all right that's what Richard does that's vegan gains his area of expertise he should have the self-awareness that he is so far out of his strike zone so far outside of his area of expertise so far outside of what he should feel comfortable passing judgment on in this area that he's kind of dead wrong no matter what he says he's gonna make an ass of himself but he seems to lack that self-awareness okay but we can also say that the young woman at age 18 what should we expect from her and what can she expect from herself she obviously lacks the kind of experience the kind of expertise to do a good job in arguing her own case in this circumstance okay so I mean when Richard complains oh well like there are inconsistencies there are problems here yeah she writes about this the way you would expect emotionally damaged brokenhearted resentful eighteen-year-old mexican girl to write about it she doesn't do a good job argument case I'm not saying you know the fact that Williams case better doesn't mean he's right in many many ways morally that guy is still in the wrong he should be capable of looking back at this and really regretting what happened okay and again Richard you are just the wrong dude to weigh in on this in so many ways and for so many reasons you don't know what it's like you don't have any experience on either side of this issue with seducing women dating women sleeping with women and you don't have any experience with what it's like to have to think about the fact that you might be able to seduce a woman now you know she might get in the mood she might sit with you now but then she might really regret it and resent it the next day or a week later or two weeks later if you are an [ __ ] if you play the game the way this French guy William did right like you know okay so in this case the girl is admitting she she consented to kissing there are some guys in some cultures who take the attitude oh if you open the door a crack I'm gonna put my foot in the door and I'm gonna push the door the rest the way open okay well if you do that if if that's how you play the game the game of love you will end up in horrible situations like William that you'll regret for the rest of your life if you're not a complete jackass and that the woman will regret for the rest of your life so don't do it don't take that attitude don't put you for the door but I know there are some cultures where that's considered normal I mean in some ways French culture French romantic culture French dating culture it's really toxic and horrible and screwed up there are a lot of things I don't like about French culture there are a lot of things with the role of the male as instigator I really dislike about French culture even when it's just French women who are like expecting me and wanting mean to flirt with them in an issue that I really don't like dealing with it and French culture is different from German culture and German culture is different from Mexican culture and it's very difficult to take those implicit assumptions and make them explicit in this case the two people have a language barrier right the girl speaks English the 18 year olds of Mexico from what I see William William doesn't communicate in English at all he seems to speak very very little English or none at all right so again I guess they were speaking in broken English I he doesn't speak Spanish she doesn't speak French or very very little French and so on right there were a lot of ways in which if there were asymmetries in the cultural assumptions he he did not make the effort necessary it would have been very different difficult effort to over overcome the language barrier overcome the cultural barrier and make her comfortable so she wasn't comfortable so she had an experience or serious experiences that she regrets and she resents for the rest of her life and she came on the internet and she shared her broken-hearted and motivational experience and indeed that experience would not hold up in court or would not work very well in a police report and we have to sit back to some extent with you know detachment and compassion and analysis and say well in some ways that's okay and sure we can also say in some ways that's not okay I was in a situation years ago where a 20 year old woman met me and she did not tell me she was 20 she told me she was in her 20s right she referred to herself as being in her 20s and I think in her mid-20s she said and she was 20 to 0 we had a very romantic evening together and it was only one night but it went on for do I even want to estimate something like a 6-hour long date or more like you know yeah it really went on all night it was very romantic situation and then she said to me she wanted to go back to my apartment and again in some cultures the it's already consent like some people would interpret that like okay so we're gonna say went back to my apartment um she got into bed with me she literally physically got into bed with me and she literally curled up with me or cuddled with me you could say I would say Karl Todman cuddled okay and then when we were in bed together she told me that she was a virgin okay and I decided not to have sex okay I think I think she did want to have sex with me in that moment you know looking back there all these weird things with her it was a sexy situation it was a romantic night she was nervous I think she would have consented that night in those circumstances if I had kind of breast case but you know what it's very likely that she would have the next day regretted it or a week later regretted it or later for the rest of life she would have looked at it though Wow you know she was a virgin and she met me and I you know I was charismatic and whatever and I don't want her to have that regret for the rest of my life I don't want to have that regret from about the rest of my life and you can imagine how much worse it would have been if I had been an [ __ ] like William if I had done the stuff he had done which included by the way I mean I think in her account and in his account also you know I I literally I don't even want to describe it okay if I had done the things that William had done with this girl over a series of nights it would be even worse okay there are levels on which you can prepare yourself to discuss these issues by caring about kind of the academic research the sociological legal political side of it and some people have that kind of background or that kind of interest vegan gains does not there are ways in which you can prepare yourself by having a lot of real-life experience dating women and getting to know these situations and living through them yourself and learning from the experience of the people vegan gains does not have any kind of experience that along those lines he used to say openly on the internet that sitted himself a psychopath he considered himself a sociopath that he had no interest in conventional romance and dating okay Richard you were the wrong guy to take on this portfolio in so many ways and everyone can see that except you how is it possible that you lack the self-awareness how is it possible that you can't see yourself as being in the wrong not even when you're lying about something as blatantly obvious as claiming that the couple is cuddled up together in this photo when they're not cuddle up and when you're concealing the fact that the young woman directly addressed what happened in this photo what it means what it meant to her and her experience in publicly published comments in English that you've seen you're lying to your audience and you're lying to yourself to try to make your [ __ ] narrative seen convincing ultimately for your own sanctimonious sense of moral superiority [Music]