Cocaine & Prostitution. [道德講座]

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the Internet and it's commonly said that it was invented by former vice president of the United States Al Gore but why why Al Gore why did you invent the Internet the true answer is no it wasn't to resist nuclear weapons assault from Russia no it wasn't so that one day in the future if it turns out that water fluoridation actually does render all of us impotent we can reorganize civilization from the tiny fragments of people surviving and the rural peripheral America no it's not for any kind of post-apocalyptic nightmare the internet was invented so that we could do reaction videos on YouTube and it's very reassuring to know that after World dead and gone our momentary reactions to seeing YouTube videos preserved in the form of YouTube videos will live on so here we go the title for this video is the best worst thing in the world the best right so this was sent to you in an email from your brother and we're just about to hit play up and I can so anytime you want to pause you know what to do you just click you just click here okay humans love meat steak fried chicken bacon pork belly and sausages are just the best things eating meat has become so trivial that many people don't consider something a proper meal if there's no animal involved which is pretty amazing since only a few decades ago meat was a luxury product today you can get a cheeseburger for a dollar paradoxically meat is pretty much the most inefficient way of feeding humans if we look at it on a global scale our meaty diet is literally eating up the planet why is that and what can we do about it without giving up steak that's always that's always the question here without actually going vegan what can you do to change I know most vegans would think like at this point having it is 42 seconds into the track where they go up to this point vegans agree with it but I don't you know like even at this point if you okay the title is why meat is the best worst thing about have you heard of cocaine have you heard but like seriously I can't believe anyone just lacks the strength of character to resist eating meat and we locate here in Victoria we live in a beautiful city Victoria British Columbia Canada every day we walk past crackheads and some days they're smoking crack right in front of you so like it's not like I'm making you know you pass by people who lack the reserves of self-discipline or fortitude or strength of character to resist you know those kinds of drugs yeah so how can you know to me it's a joke you know I know what it's like to eat meat I eat meat when I was a kid I was a teenager so no even that I mean even that basic premise that this is somehow this kind of irresistible deeply satisfying thing for mankind I don't even you know I don't even concede that well people do I think not me but yep right people do stay again okay so I hate I hate to lapse into Latin but prima facie they do would you say at first glance right if you just even asked them that question like okay come on on a scale of one to ten if you're gonna put hookers and cocaine at one end like where you can't tell me this is a 9.5 you cannot tell me that the difference between so just today we ate of a vegan hamburger that was made out of mostly atsuki beans yeah another crap you know the difference between that and a beef based hamburger you can't tell me that's up at the cocaine and hookers end of the spec you can't at everybody look at whatever I only have a daughter I don't have a son if I have a son I've got to tell him straight to his face you guess what your challenge in life you know includes refusing refusing all these temptations and more little revenge that's another one I like to mention anyone who reads ancient literature any kind of pre-modern literature literature earlier than 1950 revenge is one of the things human beings desire most and they find most gratifying and we have to teach all our sons and daughters no no no don't don't go for the gratification of revenge don't take revenge in your enemies yeah well I just think it's easier for people to accept meat as like an enticing thing that is that is actually bad but it's it's a you know conceivable that you can get away with it rather than like you know like cocaine and hookers I I'm sorry I'm not okay maybe I'm naive maybe I'm just I think quite a large percentage of people have never employed a hooker yeah I think you're nice but most people have eaten okay I've two words for you Bill Clinton yes or no what do you come on Bill Clinton cocaine and hookers yes or no okay the entire elite level of the Republican Party you you really think they're pure compared to Bill Clinton really they have cheaper hookers and less quality cocaine I kid you not I kid you not know I mean this stuff is epidemic it really is I'm sorry you have seen it in a third-world country you know you've seen it in sorry okay I shouldn't call Thailand a third-world country I guess you've seen it in Thailand I mean the scale right the scale of that industry there and it's open there you can see it you can take a census of it right in other countries where it's concealed it's a little bit harder to come to hunt come to a sense of its size right but no I mean these these sins I mean ultimately I'm against them because they're self-destructive for the people who engage them I've ever told you so I had a friend of me I'm gonna have to use a fake fake name for him tom so if your rename is actually Tom I'm not talking about I knew a guy named Tom and the first girlfriend he ever had you know well that's sorry the first sectors version was it was frost it was a bought and paid for affair and it was specifically for Filipino ethnically Filipino prostitutes who I think probably didn't speak all that much English yeah and it warped him I can't say I didn't know him that long can't say it warped him for life but I mean like more than ten years of his whole view of reality and relations between the sexes so I don't even know if he was sixteen or eighteen or something when he did that I don't know and he mean in a very real sense it corrupted him I don't I don't know what impact it had on the prostitute probably none she probably doesn't even remember him he was you know okay anyway but I'm just saying the impact but my point is my point is before is this the impact of cocaine on the cocaine user is one of concern about not the cocaine dealer it's my personal thing the impact of prostitution on the you know the prostitution use it that's actually what I'm questioning here there are course questions about the impact for the prostitute herself okay and for society itself for the deal there and for the farmers the cocaine for me at the dinner table with their mom and dad when they're little kids right growing up they don't snort cocaine with their parents people don't you know right share the fun of great hooker I know I know so and look you know this that's why I'm that's why I'm really against the legalization normalization of marijuana this way yeah is that now you do have people smoking marijuana with their parents you're gonna have you know people smoking marijuana and all kind of situation that it being normalized to that extent so yeah I agree I agree there's a taboo element there there's no doubt but all I'm saying is by putting meat into this category you know the sinful but impossible to resist things I think it's totally wrong and you know to me I'm look to me eating meat is not enjoyable period maybe I'm very new whatever doesn't matter but even if it is enjoyable like the degree of enjoyment and how that's different from eating a veggie burger etc yeah this has got to be measured out in inches and it's in no way comparable to I mean in terms of Noma terms of the demons the dominate human nature whether that's lust Envy revenge drug-induced high you know will to outdo other people and so on you know I mean like I just say I don't sure I don't know 30 seconds but I just want to say you know there is a show I think on TLC my strange addiction people can be addicted to anything but I don't think it's that comment to say that people are addicted to steak like they would be cocaine like they would be you know the satisfaction yeah right sex right right you know yeah right right so look my point is we look at a guy like Bill Clinton and we say why can't you quit no it's an hour today today Bill Clinton is president right it's Bill Clinton right exactly right right no right right right exactly that's exactly it no today ironically Bill Clinton is vegan so we know this from multiple sources there multiple sources that confirm that Bill Clinton is a dietary vegan I don't know if he still wears leather but he eats a vegan diet right but you look at this guy and think you have all this power and all this responsibility why can't you keep your dick in your pants why can't you give up the sensual pleasures of whatever you know this these these you know ludicrous and lewd and you know these Affairs that lack any and the answer is he can't for him it was the most meaningful thing in the world obviously this was an overpowering priority in his life now he is Donald Trump that much different I don't know we get pretty conflicting reports about Donald Trump in his sex life you know some of them are in court right now I don't know but you know what percentage of the Republican Party or the Democrat Party phone to that camp and you know poverty poverty is not virtue trust me you can meet poor people who are straight-up scum I told you about that guy I'd have to make up another I told you but the guy an American guy I met in Thailand he was poor I wish I could stay he was straight at a Compton but he was actually from Chicago he was from a gang background in Chicago that was all he did he is scheduled every year I mean guys turn somebody devoted to the game of just sleeping with as many women as possible he would get a temp job in an office and worked for maybe three months four months five months at a time save up all his money spend nothing during that time and then go on vacation for six months and try to sleep with as many women as possible and then go back to the States and repeat the cycle yeah and for him this is the other thing as the contrast he is only ethical principle his only ethical principle was that he'd never pay for it he never paid a prostitute oh yeah right right no but that no but that was it like think he was a total scumbag otherwise you know I saw him I saw him trying to try to hit on women I pick up whenever but it was just funny it almost seemed like maybe it would be better like I mean you know you may be better if you did pay these women because that's all you are I mean you're you're both a sex tourist and a freeloader like you're like a total total parasite on the system anyway yeah the only time I thought that wow maybe it would be a moral improvement for you to be you know for you to pay at the door anyway yeah so yeah I can take it but my point is you can be poor and you can be devoted to the life of senses ultimately life of the body versus life of the mind either you care about virtue or you don't pardon me either you care about virtue or you don't disappear Lee and if you do care about virtue in some sense quitting meat I mean I hate Bill Clinton he managed to quit meat yeah but perhaps not some of the things humans keep a lot of animals for food currently about 23 billion chickens 1.5 billion cattle and roughly 1 billion pigs and sheep that's a lot of mouths to feed so we've transformed earth into a giant feeding ground 83% of its farmland is used for livestock for example is pasture and to farm photo crops like corn and soy that's 26 percent of Earth's total land area if we include the water we need for these plants meat and dairy production accounts for 27% of global freshwater consumption unfortunately meat production is like a black hole for resources since animals are living things most of their food is used to keep them alive while they grow they're tasty parts only a fraction of the nutrients from photo crops end up in the meat we buy in the end cows for example convert only about 4% of the proteins and 3% of the calories of the plants we feed to them into beef so I just ask at this point already we're still less than the video it's the cows fault for not being energy efficient it's the cows fault they're only using 3% in to meet up ok so let's just say even if this is it so your brother sent you this why is it your brother vegan like what's the whole thoughts like ok so we're a minute and 54 into this there's already a good enough rationale here to be vegan like so what so what do you know or ok if you're not gonna be vegan eat meat once a year he said that he has really drastically reduces okay consumption ok so his position is now that he's introduced ethereum is it ok that's what he said the last time I talked ok I don't you know you know I regard such things in skepticism ok I just say no I do look at this like well ok then why not why not even if this is the only region yeah I know but isn't this isn't this sufficient rationale already to just eliminate meat from your own more than 97% of the calories are lost to us to create one kilogram of steak a cow needs to eat up to 25 kilos of grain and uses up to 15,000 liters of water animal products are guzzling up tons of food but they only make up 18 percent of the calories humans eat according to projections we could nourish an additional 3.5 billion people if we just ate the stuff we feed to animals to make our favorite food group even more unsustainable about 15 percent of all greenhouse gas emissions caused by humans are created by the meat industry as much as by all ships planes trucks and cars combined so I just mentioned I never made a video about this for different reasons I got email from one of the people at a United Nations partner agency and I just mentioned that United Nations partner agency is not the same as really technically being inside the United Nations there's a there's a difference there there's that there's a little bit of a separation of powers there but they were involved with the creation of most of those famous statistics about what percentage of greenhouse gases and so on and so forth and he told me the human story behind it I think the first report was called meat and dairies longshadow there's this series of UN affiliated reports but he said look all of them you're gonna notice as the senior editor or guy in chief there's the same name appearing again again he said what I actually happened was that the first report was the one that came out with the most hard-hitting numbers with her own 50% of greenhouse gases five oh yeah was web so you may have seen right and then the later reports that guy him personally he doesn't so far as we know he isn't paid by the meters he isn't paid by the meat industry I'm not saying as a show not sayings we're working for anyone else his personal crusade is to increase meat production in third world countries and now although I'm vegan and I totally opposed that I totally understand a summon with a UN background would take that view would kind of see the view that third world countries are disadvantaged you need to need to catch up in meat production I can actually sympathize with that view even though it is really sympathy for the devil so in the later iterations of these reports in the sequel's he was pushing and pushing to get the numbers minimized and now just lately we finally had the antidote so the numbers mysteriously got lower and lower well the underlying data didn't change okay and sorry I just imagine how do you do that the real question is of doing something I talked about on this channel all the time over the last four years full lifecycle analysis so you don't just look at one stage of a process but you look at many stages you know so I you look at not just the the death of the cow but also the shipping of the meat the ship the emissions created by shipping the food that's fed to the cow from the from so you include more and more stages okay and thus include knock-on effects include total environmental impacts so you try to do the full full lifecycle analysis full Squatch analysis anyway there's this new report now I think it is a 2018 publication which has it way up at 70% savings and land use if we eliminate meat from our diets if all of humanity and so I think 72 percent is less news I figure so a new researcher went through and did all the math fresh using much more thorough and he's come to those to a new set of numbers which are very much what's in the press today so it is it is a funny situation where exactly the same set of raw data has been calculated and recalculated but interestingly the same kind of United Nations partner agencies you get you get conflicting data and the other big international port which I think is not a United Nations affiliate you know where the water or footprint reports and those are good those are really solid data and again it's a matter of including every stage of the the process right and the irony is what the water footprint reports show you is that factory farming really is more efficient the worst views of what the most waste of water resources is like right exactly the more natural the more primitive the more full fashion is where as producing you know beef pound-for-pound in a factory farm it is more efficient that's why they do it yeah and that shows up in watery statistics when they're when they're correctly computed that shows up invoice so you're using less water to produce the same number of pounds of beef or steak what have you yeah do damage that is a funny little thing boiling away the backer but that guy sent me a bunch of email I think he really wanted me to make a hard-hitting You Tube video kind of taking his story and going public with it but for various reasons I did not want to do that and there's another aspect to meet it comes from actual living beings pigs cattle and chicken and of the ones writing the history books but if they were humans would appear as rampant genocide 'el maniacs that thrive on suffering globally we kill about 200 million animals every day about 74 billion a year this means that every one and a half years we kill more animals than people have lived in the entire 200,000 year history of humanity one could argue that we're doing them a favor after all they wouldn't exist without us we might eat them in the end but we also provide food and shelter and the gift of existence to them until the day they're killed you know pigs are now increasingly being killed in gas chambers gas chambers now you know when this comes up yeah right right well but I assume this is leading up to some kind of grim reality check for the audience but you know this comes up also in the the ongoing controversy between Isaac and Sam Harris so I believe Sam Harris used to be a hero of Isaac's I think he used to look up to him I think Isaac and correct me if I'm wrong but whatever but you know Isaac God in the audience and put a question as Harris and you know basically asking you know veganism man up bro you know yeah veganism name name the trait bro whatever you want to say ain't no Sam Harris his response is it is like this angelic figure excuse here well what if their lives are a net positive you know so like in what in what sense but but ironically we'd never use that excuse of humans I mean look you know you just saw this ridiculous dialogue I had with my mother about slavery it's very easy to make a net positive argument for slavery to say well the slaves are exploited but they still have all these wonderful things in their lives and you can catalogue all the good things in their lives food shelter clothing education whatever I mean you could you can vindicate slavery by listing all they whatever they still get to have sex they still get to walk around outdoors they get to do all kinds of things farm animals don't get to do right you can list what a wonderful life slaves have in a particular thing and say well it's a net positive we don't we don't use that standard for anything yeah the net positive argument is not used for hey you know what your brother he was falsely convicted of murder and spent ten years in prison and he wasn't he wasn't even remotely guilty he was actually they were mixed up to people's names on the same name he went to prison for a crime he didn't commit he had nothing to do with but you know it's still in that positive when he was in jail he got to read books he got food and shelter it's still a net positive you know nobody nobody uses this standard for anything but you know yeah yeah yeah he's an atheist activist but when in reality he's really a Buddhist he is really a pro Buddhist person I was just gonna say that is kind of like a Christian attitude to say that like every life is sacred yeah because right you know don't avoid getting right unintended unplanned break right yeah I met a guy who did a people who are really deeply Christian well think like it's it's every life is sacred so even if you have 10 kids and they all live in poverty and horrible lives well that's better than having one planned yep child for you know and have that child get all the attention all the food yeah a shelter and care I mean that's and it's it's gonna make your [ __ ] never get both the reality is there is a sense in which life is kind of always a net positive I knew a guy I didn't know him well he was another student of my university he went to prison for being a critic of the government being a political critic of the government as I recall in Iran but he was put in a prison where everyone else also was a political dissident and a critic of the government he was in a prison full of quite erudite people you know it wasn't like he was with the normal thieves and what-have-you I'm sorry if I miss remember I think he was an Iranian prisoner of conscience or whatever you want to say and he said openly he said that his time in prison was the most positive and inspiring period of his life and this is an Iranian prison I think it was very tough conditions very meager food and some degree of torture and whipping involved yeah but still and he spent all his time around these kind of you know intellectuals and what-have-you and he was reading and being inspired and he felt very positive about it so what it's it doesn't it doesn't vindicate you know putting people in prison for crimes they're not guilty of or political prisoners of conscience or no it is the net positive argument is neither right nor wrong it's spurious I mean so what if this cow is the happiest cow imaginable in its concrete shed not being able to see the sky and with the horrible conditions if you actually had a cow that was so stupid and so disassociated from its instincts that it was happy in those conditions you could - what are you indicating it's just insane to me and what happiness is irrelevant net positive is irrelevant it's just bizarre to me yeah the life itself without right without the trappings that you require as write whatever creature you are right that's why I think it's it's so sad for so many dogs to be living in people's houses like they aren't living how they should be like free to do what a dog would do they're they're trained from from birth to be house pets they're trained you know sit sit on the couch right all right poo when they are taken outside whenever their owner yes it's convenient for their owner to take them outside right yell that if they pee on the floor whatever you know I mean it's it's horrible this is not natural it's not it's not good for for any animal to be in a environment that they're not supposed to be in and you know I think though you start to stay on a very right-wing if you talk about liberty that way that liberty includes also the right to risk your own life you know the freedom of the dog in the woods or whatever the freedom to scavenge the freedom to starve the freedom to struggle the freedom to die and you know whatever I start talking about dignity whether its dignity and animal life or dating a human life a significant percent of a significant percentage of my audience starts freaking out people can't deal with many people cannot deal with the dignity discourse which is coming to my channel you know many many times so you know I just say there's an even kind of simpler criterion here which is just what what what we is justified what could possibly justify this no I know for you freedom especially I know this is just an aspect of your character that you really care about dignity personally you know living and dignified life being treated in a dignified way in a respectful way yeah and you know it's it's not hard to see how that would transcend to other creatures right would you like to be you know dragged along on a leash I mean like I can't go outside without seeing somebody with her dog like and the dog wants to sniff at the grass and they're like no no and they pull on their Liege and roll on their neck I mean it's like I know every three seconds when you're walking a dog I mean I've never owned a dog but you know you can just see that that's that's what they want to do they want on me they want to act like a dog yeah right right the moment that they see another dog they go nuts because they want their their pack animals they want to be with other dogs but they're being reminded constantly no no you're a toy you're a human plaything yeah that's supposed to act like a dog yeah anyway sorry right no but look I just say I think I think questioning that in terms of dignity is something I often do but many people in this culture can't deal with dignity reasoning that involves the concept of dignity so there's this other question of just are you holding up a spurious standard a standard that's not viable like ie the idea that life is still something so valuable that it's still valuable even if you live it in a prison for a crime you didn't commit I'm sorry but that is pretty parallel we're talking about whether whether it's the domesticated dog you know which lives part of its life in a cage and part on chains and whatever you know in confinement having its balls chopped off being you know Kendall to Castro and everything else or you're talking about the animal in the factory farm they are in many ways like prisoners being punished for a crime they didn't commit and I I totally believe there are human beings who've been falsely imprisoned who in a sense and that a meaningful life in prison I mean maybe you're in prison and you read philosophy and you know yeah this in some ways rewarding life guess what putting you in prison is still wrong you know it's still bad and even wrong and again people always want to sit back oh well but if this dog wasn't castrated and trained and broken and on a leash and in a cage then it would have starved to death in the forest so what yes you don't have to change right what I just sit back is you know what 100 the the the mortality rate for wild animals is 100 percent 100 percent of wild animals die in the wild nobody survives whether they live for six months or two years or four years you're right all wild animals die they either dive disease or predation or starvation some some other animal eats them or they eat the wrong animal and get poison and die yeah that's life in the wild you know anyway but it's it would be the same if you talked about someone being falsely put in prison and you act for some reason you actually do well if he hadn't been put in prison he would have only lived for a couple of years a diet like that's quite possible you'd know that yeah instead he had a longer life because he was in prison due to whatever so what it's still wrong you know anyway so yeah unfortunately we're not very nice gods a lot of our meat comes from factory farms huge industrial systems that house thousands of animals engineered to be as efficient as possible they have little regard for things like quality of life most pigs are raised in gigantic windowless sheds and never get to see the Sun sows are kept in pens too small to turn around where they give birth to one litter of piglets are for another until it's their turn to be turned into bacon I don't see how people respond to the basic facts by eating meat only once a day or four times a week or only on Thursday what does it say about you I mean you know there's a real sense in which this is not about making a judgment on the animals it's a judgment on you what kind of person are you gonna be man dairy cows are forced to breathe continually to ensure their milk supply but are separated from their calves hours after birth to fatten up beef cattle for slaughter they're put in feedlots confined pens where they can't roam and put on weight more quickly to make it possible to keep them so tightly together without dying of diseases the majority of antibiotics we use are for livestock up to 80% in the US which helps in the short-term but also fuels antibiotic resistance --is but the ones that may have got the worst deal are chickens in factory farms they're kept in such vast numbers and so close to each other that they can't form the social structures they have in nature so they start attacking each other to stop that we cut their beaks and claws male chickens are deemed worthless since they can't lay eggs and are not suitable for meat production so within minutes after birth they're usually gassed and shredded in grinders several hundred million baby chickens are killed this way each year even if you had a personal score to settle with chickens how we treat them is beyond broken so better buy organic meat where animals are treated nicely right organic farming regulations are designed to grant animals a minimum of comfort the problem is that organic is an elastic term right and shout-out to Harrison Nathan whom I completely despise but he wrote an article putting together the shocking stats about this that I hadn't seen before actually actually free-range chickens are worse off than caged chickens if you don't believe me look it up that includes simply the rate of death of what is called in the industry suffering to death that's an industry term that's not a vegan terms on activist term the percentage of chickens that die because they're pecked to death by their chickens or die because they starve or die because they're trampled by other chickens or died from other bizarre and Clemen things that happen in the so called free-range paradigm the chickens seem to be constantly miserable constantly attacking each other and dying of these various shall we say circumstantial causes whereas in the cages they're safe and they're relatively comfortable and not stressed out and so I says believe me I'm vegan I don't think don't eat either type of chicken but actually it is a very bitter irony to face up to that the so the free-range the genuine free-range chickens are worse off than the caged ones and one of the other entities is that the rate of them suffer death is so high that significantly more chickens are being tortured to produce the same number of pounds of chicken meat because such a significant percentage of them are dying in this way so it's bizarre but believe it or not yeah it ain't poultry paradise organic farming regulations are designed to grant animals a minimum of comfort the problem is that organic is an elastic term according to EU regulations an organic hen still might share one square meter of space with five others that's a long way off from happy farmyard chickens farms that sincerely do their best do exist of course but meat is still a business an organic label is a way to charge more money and countless scandals have revealed producers looking for ways to achieve the system and while organic meat might be less cruel it needs even more resources than conventional meat production so buying organic is still preferable but does not grant you moral absolution the truth is if suffering were a resource we would create billions of tons of it per year the way we treat animals will probably be one of the things future generations will look down on in disgust while all these things are true something else is true too steak is amazing so this was my this was my minute one within the first minute this is my reaction no no no no I don't think he's gonna say I do not think he's gonna say none of it matters and I say that sorry okay on a scale of one to ten cocaine and hookers I mean what am I gonna tell you like put it or if you claim this about eating a hamburger and that it's so different from eating a veggie burger like you know it's a little bit different we both ate a veggie burger today you ate two it is slightly different from eating an animal-based veggie burger it's actually it contains zero cholesterol the fat to protein ratio is better it's less greasy I can remember I can remember having fat lining the inside of your mouth it's horrible and even the stench of cooking this stuff I don't feel I know stop eating you realize I know I mean I don't think I know crazy like you don't really can feel that it makes your body just yeah well yeah but you have a weird tragedy through your body after after eating this kind of stuff yes okay but like even if you concede the point that there's something slightly more enjoyable about a real dead animal-based hamburger versus a vegan amber which I don't think is that easy to concede but let's concede it how does this compare to all the things we accept and we expect Bill Clinton to refuse we expect Bill Clinton to be morally upstanding in self-disciplined and turned down all of these pleasures of the senses and even Bill Clinton can be vegan he can do it he's obviously got weaknesses for sensory for the pleasures of the senses of the pleasures of the flesh that's the way to put it the pleasures of the flesh but this ain't it bro if you're willing to make this level of excuse for such such a trivial indulgence what are you not willing to excuse what what lying can you draw if you can't draw this line you know I don't get it burgers are the best food chicken wings taste great meat satisfies something buried deep in our lizard brain we hardly ever see how our meat is made we just eat it and love it it creates joy it brings us together for family meals and barbecue parties eating meat doesn't make you a bad person not eating meat doesn't make you a good one sure would you say that even most cigars so Melissa say you've never smoked a cigar like uh you know just a straight-up like a Cuban cigar or someone cuz some good quality cigar brothers PhD graduation briefly I heard that you might vomit if you actually like okay but look my point is this if if we concede that smoking a cigar is pleasant and a very large percentage of people find a cigar a good voice of art are pleasant something about the taste the aroma the the drug high because it does you get you know you get nicotine from it if we say that's Pleasant why it's not hard for us to say yeah you know what there's a moral difference you know smoking a cigar it's true it's not quite as simple as saying smoking a cigar makes you a bad person but we expect people if you're a morally good person to recognize your responsibilities and quit smoking tobacco whether that's a cheaper or cigarette or expensive cigars or something in between to say hey you know what this may be pleasant it may be enjoyable but there are a bunch of reasons just including your own integrity while you have to quit yeah it makes you bad person so you know I have a daughter someday in the future 10 years from now she's gonna be dating a young man when she brings home her boyfriend to introduce to me if he's smoking cigarettes do I judge him or not of course yeah of course you do and know it doesn't automatically make him a bad person yeah theoretically find some historical example someone who was a wonderful human being in 10 other ways but they smoked cigarettes still that's one way in which they're they're really not a good person and it is a red flag and it does tell you other bad things about their character same with compulsive gambling you can be a good person to in other ways but if you're a compulsive gambler that tells me something bad about you you know it does it cuts deep so what given these facts why would the complete conclusion be eating meat doesn't make you a bad person that's participating in this system does write you a bad person what like choosing what does right exactly right so I mean you don't know but a real card is yours you know if you live in the United States I do not think that paying your taxes makes you a bad person and some people do take that position they say well if you pay taxes and then the government uses the taxes to bomb unknown country x y&z to carry out wars around the world with your tax money yeah well no you don't you can you know I mean that there are alternatives there are there sorry there are people there are conscientious objectors who don't and you know yeah there are people whom that's um cause I I don't take that position I think you know you can talk about duties and obligations and say hey you live in a Democratic Society well but also things like you drive your car on the roads you should pay your taxes to pave the roads this kind of thing you know you shouldn't try to be a free rider these days but sure I understand why some people want to take a moral stand and not pay taxes you know because they were against the war or they've got some particular war they're against all the wars whatever the case might be so refusing to pay taxes does not make you a good person I was it but what what do you mean how can you possibly not come to an ethical judgment on the refusal to eat meat okay and like imagine this scenario would you say that somebody is a more morally upstanding citizen if everything is the same all the checkmarks are the same except this person refuses to eat meat wouldn't you say that person is more moral than the person who doesn't refuse to you goes along with his identical twin brother who is living the same life in every other way wouldn't you say oh except for this one factor I'm sure yeah we encountered that even like I think especially in China it seemed to be like more right respected when somebody when you told somebody that they would be like oh well like you know they would see that as part of a positive thing about your character about others yeah I don't understand why you know yeah why are you trying to make this non ethical yeah I mean yeah yeah life is complicated and so is the world we've created well it's complicated so how should we deal with the fact that meat is extremely unsustainable and a sort of horrible torture for now the easiest option is opting out more often taking a meat-free day per week already makes a difference if you want to eat meat produce with the less suffering try to buy from trusted producers with a good track record even if it costs more so that's it man that's it all comes down to was ethical meat is yuppie [ __ ] and you know if it wasn't what meat-free Mondays like rape free Fridays or something slavery free Tuesdays you know if you're against it why is there not like people who are reducing their intake aren't against it in principle people who actually become vegan and those who don't it's just ultimately about whether you care enough about it to do it or not really ultimately that's the only thing that I can just not argue against when somebody says they don't care enough to just completely caught me I mean I guess I should laud their efforts to reduce me but I but I don't because I don't log a bhag receipt I don't have a lot of hypocrisy or half-measures I don't log cowardice either I mean you know it's [ __ ] but look yeah you gotta also ask if this isn't okay what is the most you can do and what is the least you can do if if being vegan isn't the least you can do what is not everybody can quit their job and become a full-time vegan activist you and I just attempted to quit our full-time jobs go back to college trained in a totally new discipline totally new career path so that we could be full time vegan activists we tried we tried to start a totally new career so that we could be full time vegan activist and as of this date this is the last few days of September in 2018 it looks like we're not trying again because that college is more California booked out you guys can see the other videos in this channel for details not everybody can do that the vast majority of people cannot quit their job and become a full-time vegan activist no question so there's a question of the most you can do but there's also a question of the least you can do Wow I I doubt you know it's all gonna say I mean look not everyone can do something to help end the cocaine epidemic which way you might think of his activism or running a rehab center there are a million ways you could do something positive the least you can do is completely abstain from cocaine completely refuse to pay for or use cocaine that is the least you can do and I think it's a real question for us what can we do to fight back against the drug culture and I think all parents think about it you may not if you're single with no kids once you have kids you maybe start looking at the world thinking wow I do not want to raise my kids in a place where yeah drug use is just rampant and profit all around like what can I do about this you know so you start to ask possibly there's a question of the most you can do but there's also question of though for now enjoy your steak but also respect it and if you can make it something special again how can you enjoy dupré committing an evil act and what what you know what is the point and what is the do you remember we saga we were in Thailand and we were on the way back to our apartment building we had a temporary apartment and there was an old man who had to walk with a crutch with a young prostitute I mean she wasn't you know she wasn't illegal young and she was way out so the guy was the good guy looked 80 he was probably 76 or something and he was in such bad shape that he had to have the prostitute hold his cane and lean on the prostitute shoulder with one arm and kind of limp on one leg to get into the elevator with the prostitute and the prostitute looked at us we were just walking past on the sidewalk these guys were getting into the elevator and there Harmelin we could see them very clearly this exasperate an expression her face this was clearly beneath her dignity to have a client who was so physically enfeebled and unable and that old guy he was he sorry he was white and the woman was Thai he didn't feel as as beneath his is they gonna be at all right I mean you know he felt he was gung-ho to go this is the highlight of his week you know what they say here about me we'll just just go ahead and enjoy your meet look back to me young look it is totally debatable I mean there are definitely relationships between prostitutes and their clients where nobody feels disrespected and nobody feels exploited you can insert this and there's a huge feminist literature about that by the way any academic library is gonna have this Pro sex worker discourse and stuff but you know no I think anyone really has the question you know what it means to have a life of dignity and like look I mean when I get there I may be old and ugly and alone one day you know and you have to ask yourself this question my sense of moral dignity maybe at this stage of my life in these circumstances it means living in celibacy and devoting myself to the pleasures of the mind or what have you you know what I mean maybe there's something else at stake here no pun intended other than just you know sensual indulgence and you know I raised that back when I was an even more hot-blooded young man I'm cursed with a high sex drive which melissa is witness to but back when I was even younger and and fitter you know I wrote those articles talking about prostitution in the humanitarian industry we said no damn it if you're gonna come out here and do humanitarian work if you're gonna commit to if you are going to commit to handing out sacks of rice to starving people or all these other humanitarian projects why can't you commit to being celibate for those six months or three months a lot of them are really short assignments most of those people are in the field for six weeks it's not even that long you know but whatever even if it is six months to say no while I'm in this village full of starving people I'm here to help them period and do this research and hand out you know there are other priorities right now and I'm not gonna cross this line and of course it's not we're not talking about a lifelong vow of celibacy you know but I mean and and you know since then that's come up a lot with United Nations workers and United Nations soldiers deployed to different areas and you know it's it's a question the whole the whole generation has to ask itself so you know I can't say to those guys you know well you know go on enjoy yourselves or something you know I mean that's that's so much more into a gray area than meat because there's no way the cow consented to this this is not a consenting adult situation this is a clear victim Victor situation you can feel good about what you're eating and you know how somebody's suggesting to respect your food after you know what goes into it like how wasteful it is how cruel it is just unethical it is I mean the only justification for this that I see is you're a good person even if you eat me right I'm sorry but I mean if you like I said if you compare somebody who you know is identical to someone else except that they don't eat meat what do you think is the the better thing to do morally what do you think is the right thing to do how do you want to live your life and like you say who do you want to be do you want to be someone that does respect something respectable or not somebody who wants okay but look so are you I think this is bringing back to another fundamental form of misdirection that's in in the the claim here that it's about respecting the meat you know that old man getting into the elevator with the prostitute and it was a striking scene just visually of him leaning with all his weight on this prostitute and her really not you're just being disgusted you know ultimately her feeling this but it was very obvious those situation it's not about respecting the prostitute right it's about respecting yourself but I mean if this advice for the meat eater do you respect yourself for the ethical choice you're making the ethical choice the ecological choice the health choice all the things that are rolled up this you know what do you mean you respect the meat what what are you talking about and again like I say sorry bring it back to my friend but what I call him Tom or Ted or whatever the fake name who was really mentally screwed up by sleeping with prostitutes at an early age when he was still a teenager losing his virginity with prostitutes I have no reason to think those prostitutes were traumatized you know like let's just assume for them it was their 500th clients and you know what he was probably polite and well-behaved and Timmy he was losing his virginity probably was not a very memorable client client for them anyway no in no way is this about respecting or disrespecting the prostitute there's a question of do you respect yourself are you a respectable person is this good you know for you and yeah in a broader sense for Society for planet Earth as a whole what if all what if all 75 year old men were sleeping with 21 year old prostitutes all what if that was a universal widely attested thing in our society which it obviously is in some parts of Thailand not everywhere but in some worth well you have a huge generation of geriatrics who were also who it doesn't just have impacts for one person it transformed society now what if you have a society where everyone is quote unquote respecting their media making excuses or millions of people are eating millions of steak this has in fact so again there were all these other questions here even if we treat it as morally neutral the actual relationship between man and meat between you know customer and prostitute which of course it isn't I mean of course it is I just think like are you really comfortable with somebody be comfortable explaining this to a child right and what would they expect the child to say you know I didn't even tell you this I didn't even tell you this today i sat down in a salad restaurant so I'm not gonna name the restaurant you know which restaurant I mean it's a restaurant they basically do salad it's their specialized thing and I hear the voice of someone next to me I was reading I had Aristotle and it was reading Aristotle when I was making some notes and I had an idea for a YouTube video it was another things one and I hear this person sit down next to me who has a peculiar accent and she is explaining how there's very little for her to eat there because she's now on the Paleo diet so yeah I don't even look at her but she is you know she's having fun explaining to her friend they're obviously out on a lunch date like two female friends are out for lunch oh well you know I can't relate this stuff at this thing reason and when I'm packing up to leave you know put him up I just turn slow and look and see what is it's the same a [ __ ] employee for Amnesty International who lectured me about human rights it was trying to get me to donate money to invest International it's not the same type of person it's the same person yeah and she had this totally surreal dialogue with me about the ethics of veganism you know and I I didn't know if she I'm pretty easy to recognize but yeah I just I'm not even gonna make eye contact yeah we had a pretty long conversation there aren't that many guys who look like me yeah I was wearing the vegan patch and everything today so I'm just you know and she was literally lecturing how there's not much to eat there cuz you know skill chat is an online learning community with over 20,000 classes in all kinds of cool stuff so that was the moral of the story in this video whoo coming up on one hour flat does anything you'd like to insert an advertisement for at the end of this video no advertising broccoli broccoli hey but by my story book guys buy my story alright I talked to an artist I talked to an artist today on Instagram I just noticed there is profiles well you know I'm still here for an artist so yeah it's a real open question can we do can we do something like a Kickstarter some kind of what is the word crowdfunding campaign to get a couple thousand bucks for the artists because the reality in in a you know book like this they're the artist is not gonna make any money after things published you know we can write the most generous contract in the world guess what 15% of nothing is too nothing but you know it's really Ken the artist time and energy be be rewarded upfront and you know back in the day my plan was to the Kickstarter I was gonna pay Richard I was gonna pay vegan gains to advertise you know the story book on his on his channel yeah but then Richard you know cut off all communication in cooperation with me because I'm too anti-racist I talk I'm too much against racism so he didn't he wasn't having that but yeah it's uh it's an open question I mean I do think that's something where I could pay for advertising or try to get some other you know some other channels clout behind supporting a new artist to take on the story book after the old artist flunked out of the project see how loud you guys will notice we just put up the Swedish translation and that's still something I'm looking around to do although the reality is basically I am poor I cannot pay this artists out-of-pocket yeah we just gave up on the bread baking college situation and we're now in the midst of a tumultuous process of planning our next relocation and I still gotta I still gotta buy video games for my daughter no I think I think you'd have to do t-shirts that were tied specifically to the book that'd be the way to do it so you I just mentioned if you know that's interesting if you do a kick stove that that's what I said to the artist to I said you take a couple of the drawings and then you offer them whether it's on t-shirts hats or posters it's okay if you pay in advance to support the book we'll give you right now like a poster in a t-shirt with this image on it maybe it's the cover of the book or one of the illustrations in the book and then it's maybe six months later or a year later the book will be done and you'll get that okay so that they have something right away for their donation yeah so there you go guys that's what I got to pitch and that is ultimately the solution this problem is having human beings get educated from an earlier age about the fundamental facts of life so they don't have to live in denial of them and and make these ridiculous excuses from later [Music]