Dumbest Vegans On YouTube: The Vegan Cheetah!

18 June 2016 [link youtube]


A lecture on tolerance. Click ahead to see reflections on Cheetah's subsequent "descent into madness" in a video from several years later, here: https://youtu.be/0JBNjAGy2Mw Support the creation of new content on the channel (and speak to me, directly, if you want to) via Patreon, for $1 per month: https://www.patreon.com/a_bas_le_ciel

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still to this day I get emails and
messages demanding that i denounce the vegan cheetah for those of you don't know you can enjoy and understand this video without knowing who he is he's one of my fellow vegans you're on the internet aight engage in digital activism digital public education using social media to get people talking about veganism various ways and he's a guy who in many ways I do not have much in common with I've commented many times it's hard to imagine that he if I if he had I had met face to face that we would have become friends the guy is such a heavy smoker he's such a heavy nicotine addict that it's hard for me to imagine sitting in the same room with him and having a conversation you know maybe if we were outdoors on a porch no min was taking away the cloud of nicotine that's around more time maybe I could put up with his company but I mean in so many obvious ways he and I are guys who are just very different to just have nothing in common and it's kind of sad to me that people can't look at the friendship we have and say gee isn't that wonderful the two people who are so different who have so little in common have this one thing in common have this you know ethical commitment to veganism in common and they're able to build a kind of friendship round of you know very unusual very rare sort of friendship um a lot of people do not see that as wonderful so I think you know on the one hand there's this theme have already talked about so many times the issue of Tolerance I have videos that begin with the word tolerance and end with the word tolerance and where I come back to again and again this concept have been laying down let politics the virtue politics requires is tolerance and being tolerant if someone else is very different from agreeing with them of being tolerant you know you don't tolerate people uh you have everything come with you don't tolerate people you think are right you tolerate people you think are wrong you say okay I think you're wrong about this but I'm going to work with you I'm going to cooperate you it's etc and you know the Internet has has kind of exaggerated a tendency that was already widespread in the left-wing I think after 1989 after the fall of the Berlin Wall where people on the Left really define themselves by a sort of moral purity that consisted in denouncing others and on the internet obviously they're people literally spent hours each day whether it's on Twitter on conversation forms whatever denouncing others for being morally inferior to them and still to this day I get fan mail from people I just got one the other day that was very sincere someone writing to me saying there were a huge fan of my channel there were huge fan of me but they were never again gonna watch my channel or my content because i had not denounced the vegan cheetah this other guy for his for his opinions for things that you know I some things of that I do disagree with and other things that I mean different to but just illustrate how different he is from me you know they're more idiosyncratic you might say not necessarily matters of principle or what have you um I think this is sad a bunch of ways I got two points here first there's a difference between debate and denunciation and none of these people asked me to debate the cheetah none of them are asking me to engage in you know like I I wish there was more debate even between me and the people who are currently my supporters or my fans I mean it was wonderful that I got support from vegan gains I don't have a lot in common with the guy we're both vegan obviously there's room for debate there debate is not denunciation I was wonderful I've gotten support from unnatural vegan thanks to her for shutting me out and so and she's done so in the past you did so again now in this the you know somewhat surreal circumstance of living in however again this differencing debate annunciation there are many things I disagree with her vote and I think they're worth discussing I think they're worth debating i'm not going to denounce her I'm not gonna do what these people are demanding i do with vegan cheetah i'm not going to say she's a she's a terrible person or what have you i'm not going to turn this into a proof of my own moral purity by showing how intolerant I am towards her the whole point is to tolerate and cooperate with and you know build constituency with people who you do disagree with you're not trying to build a fanatical puritanical religious movement you're trying to build a broad-based coalition where you know to different degrees you interact with in cooperative people I met several people through through veganism who are heavily into BDSM you know into being a dominatrix or Dominator or this this kind of stuff now i'm not against it i'm not i don't i don't see it as a you know it's it's not morally offensive to me but that's not what I'm into that's not who I am but you know why you know what you gonna have this attitude of kick out everyone who doesn't doesn't agree with you on this unending list of moral principles that tries to define who you are as morally pure now the other thing is I mean tolerance we most often hear about tolerance and relation to issues of race religion nationality gender we tend not in English to talk about about tolerance as much with these sort of fine specific political beliefs like how we interpret veganism how we try to implement it um but look I'm an atheist and I have friends who are Christians let's say for the sake of argument I have friends who are Catholic um I you know I want more I'm a vegan I'm happy to cooperate with and collaborate with and find common ground with Catholic vegans okay think about all of the terrible unforgivable things the Catholic Church is done and now think of all the terrible unforgivable things that the vegan cheetah is done you know Charles this this internet personality you guys are having such a such a great time Tara park cool now if your point is that morality is contagious that I have to cut myself off from someone and denounce them as evil because if I don't their immorality is gonna catch on to me like a disease that I myself I'm going to be infected by how politically incorrect they are that's that's the thinking here is that if I don't cut off and denounce vegan cheetah because he's made some comments about what kind of women he wants to sleep with on his Instagram or these kinds of things you know which may be in bad taste and you may be offended and you can you could write into him I think yes she does reply to two fan mail hey pill that kind he's aware of the fact that a lot of what he says is somewhat somewhat offensive I the idea is if I don't denounce him and cut him off then I am tarred by the same brush I'm blackened by the same sin and I catch the disease I become as bad and evil anymore was him well let me tell you something the Catholic Church within my lifetime has covered up atrocities including a pedophilia sexual exploitation of children on an unbelievable scale now you guys know in terms of my scholarship and research interests I've never been especially interest in the Catholic Church but i have read detailed accounts journalistic and historical about sex crimes by the catheters within my lifetime in Ireland Spain South America Asia you know around the world I of course in the United States of America in Canada you know oh god what they you know residential school history sis you know history of the Catholic Church in Canada you know the the sex crimes alone during my lifetime that the Catholic Church is guilty of are so much more serious exponentially deadly serious that there's a solid argument that I should refuse to be friends with somebody who supported the Catholic Church during this time or somebody who still supports the catholic church today because they're immoral and I should cut them off that makes a lot more sense than cutting off something like cheetah who's a vegan and who's pursuing activism in his own way who's discussing these issues in his own way and you cannot says and does some offensive things reflecting the kind of guy he is which is very different kind of guy I am and yet you know we've all been trained we all do know that tolerance matters we all know that you have to tolerate someone who's a Catholic or who still supports the Catholic Church despite this even if you don't agree with them tolerance only matters when you don't agree when you do agree with them tolerance is irrelevant okay I disagree with you but I'm going to respect you up to a certain point it's naughty it's less than respect its tolerance be full you can feel free to disrespect them you can feel free to disagree with them but this is a whole different approach to life on Earth and look if you go back a little bit further it's not just sexual exploitation of children it's not just the sex crimes the catholic church the Catholic Church is guilty of genocide on an unbelievable scale of crimes against humanity on almost every continent on this earth and really like if you look at the history of the Christian Church in India you know there are episodes that will horrify you you know so all kinds of places that are not famous for the Catholic Church being barbaric the same way you for example South America is or Australia is you know the role of the various Christian Church and the Catholic Church in Australia and Canada what they did that virtual people it's unforgivable it leaves a stain on the whole history of the human race and of course it it has to shape the way I view Catholicism and anyone who would make excuses for and in support of Catholicism day it does in a really deep way this is deadly deadly serious whereas most of the things people hate cheetah for are basically a joke um now you so as I say if you were really going to apply this in your life you were really going to be intolerant and judgmental in this way you would have to cut off almost everyone it was a member of a mainstream religion but certainly Catholicism Anglicanism most forms of Christianity uh and you would have to seek out the company you know a very narrow group of people who agree with you in a long checklist of things and pathetically that's what I see happening on the Internet i started appening before the internet with the left wing in Toronto you know after 1989 so you know there'd be people who you know subscribe to a certain form of left-wing feminism and believe all pornography is evil and then they're only friends with other left-wing feminists who believe pornography is evil and over there in the other corner of the room there are other left-wing feminists who actually think pornography is good and positive and okay they're sex positive they have a different view of it and they're only friends with other left-wing feminists who agree with the contact you know these tiny counterproductive ultimately you know invidious and hateful groups of people cut off from everyone else and most of their political energy instead of an organizing dislike positive goes into cutting themselves off from others now look I've already said a bunch of times you tolerate people when you disagree with them I don't agree with cheetahs use of the n-word which my impression is he doesn't do frequently but he has been caught a few times using the n-word on camera I don't think it's appropriate I don't think it's good and I wasn't aware of it until a certain channel 2 attention to it and when I saw this video on this other channel they're just [ __ ] i roached the guys oh you know that's interesting you know what I'll talk to cheetah about it and I did we had a conversation about it in which I you know expressed my reasons for disagreeing with him and he expressed his reasons for living the way he does and living the way he does reflects the fact that he's an ex-convict and some of his use of language reflects habits he picked up in President so on and that's it I communicated to him as one human being as another why I disagree with him what my concerns were for the future for our boobs for fun I'm gonna cut him off it refuses to speak to forget for this reason as conversely if you meet someone who is a member of the Catholic Church who gives money to the Catholic Church who is giving money to support this organization and who may be making excuses to justify and vindicate that organization despite the terrible crimes against humanity they've committed just within the last 50 years and I mean God go back the last 500 years unbelievable what is the meaning of tolerance in our lives I close on this note people sympathy it's not an emotion to be wallowed in the point of sympathy is not for you to feel good and pure and superior to your fellow man who lack sympathy okay sympathy is an analytical tool sympathy is so important in politics because it helps you understand other people you should use sympathy to understand the perspective of the other side you should use sympathy understand the perspective of people your own side you should use sympathy to understand the perspective of people who want to cooperate with you want to collaborate with you but who may be profoundly different from you for reasons as obvious of the fact that there by Catholic there an ex-convict or hey you know they're getting your straight even if you're not homophobic in any way you know sharing your life with and cooperating with people who have fundamentally different religious views different sexualities different views of the world you know it's a challenge but I'm telling you guys it's worth doing it's worth making the effort it's worth having an open mind and an open heart and reaching out to your fellow human beings not to mention your fellow vegans and trying to make something positive happen it doesn't always work out sometimes you meet people and they're actually neo-nazis they're actually communist extremists they're so far left wing or so far right wing or so such religious fundamentalists you can't deal with them and say look I tried now I'm done trying and I'm going to move on but the reality is we live in a society that's built on a history of colonialism genocide war oppression slavery and we're surrounded by all kinds of people who still support those things I've met so many Australians who are still Pro genocide who's still actively support you know their their recent history of destroying their indigenous people I've met so many white Canadians who are pro genocide who you know because I was working on first nations that was much more aware of this who support basically the extermination and forced assimilation of the last remnants of our native peoples and their languages who want to see that disappear you know and of course to me that's that's deeply hurtful but I used to live in Cambodia Cambodia is full of people they all elderly people who committed atrocities crimes against humanity were involved in what we what we call genocide but mass murder in Cambodia at the end of the war they didn't have trials those people just settled down and became normal law-abiding citizens and lived as neighbors with the people some of the people used to be their victims okay so life is full of these kinds of deep and terrible contradictions and the question of how Catholics and atheists and all these different views and beliefs can live together and work together and cooperate together in society that's a question really worth pondering and on a tiny scale vegans who are maybe one percent of the world's population maximum I think we're way less than 1% but i have no i have no viable statistics for it within this tiny my already you really want to break it down further you really want to send me email asking me to the dance the vegan cheetah because of his blunt opinions about what he finds attractive and a woman look shame on you okay I'm trying to do something positive I hope you find it in your hearts do something positive to