Just a footnote in the history of veganism?

isn't it easy now to say that Gary yorovsky is just a minor footnote in the history of the vegan movement isn't that easy to say in the year 2022 I used to know people who would with no irony and with real sincerity passion and conviction refer to and talk about Kerry arovsky as of the Martin Luther King of the vegan movement their assumption was that this was a man of tremendous power and influence who was going to go on to be even more powerful even more influential in the years to come that you know whatever significance or notoriety you might have now appearing on the TV news and so on just wait just watch just wait and I think you can so sorry I should say if you're about 45 years old it's quite easy for you to think back to that time it doesn't seem like that long ago it might be some of you right now might be already kind of nodding your heads ruefully I think oh yes yes I remember when people look to yorovsky and thought of him as the Martin Luther King Jr of the vegan movie okay I got I got fan mail from someone today who's uh an 18 year old viewer of this Channel and he was talking about how advice I'd given when he was 17 changed his life and how he now sees it differently at age 18. okay what do you think Gary orofsky means to him you know like so so five years ago now think about the world from his perspective there were some people in the movement today for whom it's unimaginable and unfathomable and they're looking back at Gary oropsy like if they now hear about the echo of his his form or fame and importance what do you mean wasn't it always obvious that this guy was nothing more than a minor footnote in the history of veganism who is and who is not a minor footnote it's obvious in retrospect later when history is written and it becomes increasingly difficult to sympathetically and analytically put yourself back in that perspective earlier period of time I've always been challenged on this and I think it's fair to say this is still attention with my audience after all these years the audience I have today some of whom are 18 years old and just started watching recently some of you have been here for five years eight years whatever the case maybe I think that there is attention with my audience whether it is spoken or unspoken that they are so often frustrated with me because they demand to know why are you even bothering to criticize freely the banana girl why are you even bothering to criticize durian Ryder right it's just looking at another one now uh healthy crazy cool you know any of these did I get it wrong you know why why would you even bother to criticize these people who are nothing more than a minor footnote and there's your veganism as opposed to the people who are self-evidently of such great importance now this is why I'm making the video this is exactly what I want to question this is what I want this kind of claim that some of us make consciously and intentionally you know in the context of a debate or something but a lot of us are just unthinkingly kind of leaning on in our own internal monologue we treat it as something uh self-evident that we know that's well established who is a minor footnote and who is a who is a major character um as this history still unfolds um okay so you might think it's obvious that uh Gary francione is a much more important person than freely the banana girl that's really the banana girl always was doomed to be a minor footnote in the history of vegan movement whereas Gary francione is of tremendous Epoch making Imports is let me ask you is Gary francione the Martin Luther King Jr of 21st century veganism is he it's because his career is now over now we can write the history of that looking back I know he's not deceased yet but he is well and truly uh retired he's out of the game is he is that is that his importance uh I want to talk about the history of veganism in two very simple phases the period from 1970 to the year 2000 and the period from the year 2000 to the year 2030. there's a very big difference between these two periods of time and the difference is what you see right here the internet YouTube how important was Gary francione how important was Gary orofsky I've got to ask I've got to drop a lot of more names here how important was Wayne seong Right and again some of you are too young to remember there was a time when I came out and criticized you know Wayne seong and other vegans were just shocked they were just astonished and what they had to say to me not in exactly these words was don't you realize this man is the Martin Luther King Jr of our movement this is the great leader we all have to follow this is the guy carrying the flag that's going to bring the movement forward now you know so today in retrospect it's very easy to say oh couldn't you always see the red flags couldn't you always see that something was wrong couldn't you always see that he was the wrong uh guy to follow no no I could again if you're 40 years old did you did you see what was wrong with Wayne song did you see what was wrong with Gary Roski or were you one of the people who was giving the most charitable interpretation possible when Gary yorovsky screamed incoherently on camera and seemed completely insane on any number of issues including the war between Israel and Palestine this kind of thing things had nothing to do with veganism where these incoherent breakdowns were you one of the people who was rationalizing that and making excuses for that in your head because he was supposed to be our great leader if you were imagining he was going to become in future the uh you know the Martin Luther King Jr of our upper movement and by the way Martin Luther King Jr had his own sins that were swept under the rug and ignored by his followers during his lifetime he was glorified and had things ignored and deleted you know um uh with Wayne seong when he published anti-vegan essays when he published essays attacking veganism and saying that the animal rights movement should have nothing to do with veganism and they should be separated and that he wants he doesn't even want to be vegan he wants to just be an animal rights person attacking and revivalinga did you I knew when I spoke to people who remained followers of Wayne song in case you didn't know he ended up dropping that tactic after it sort of backfired for him whatever I don't know what results he was expecting but he didn't get uh the results he was he was hoping for though okay were you one of the people who said well this is a red flag this guy is some kind of Kook this guy is crazy this guy doesn't know what he's doing or doesn't know what he's talking about this so we're not going to follow or did you rationalize it make excuses for it right so on and so forth when Wayne seon obviously and flagrantly lied in claiming that nobody had ever gone to jail uh by participating in his protests in his days of action in their their method of disruption as they call it et cetera Etc we was he was lying about that and at the same time asking for donations to pay for lawyers to help get people out of jail you know quote unquote in jail I don't mean they were literally in jail but people were facing criminal charges and the possibility of going to jail at the at the very same time he's begging he's panhandling he's fundraising on the base this is this shows there's a serious problem with you morally if not intellectually like this shows this is somebody who's crazy you know this is a bad leader it's not somebody you want to be involved with even in business I mean even this guy's owning a company or something is this guy you want to be in business with right so my point is this when you're actually living through this kind of political history as it unfolds your experience of the present your interpretation of the president your rationalization of the present the excuses you make for people in the present very often derived from a definite notion you have of the future of who that person is going to be in the future their their significance in the future all right now as I say I've had to deal with this both explicitly and implicitly in my conversations with my audience I feel sometimes it's an implicit tension why would you bother criticizing freely the banana girl how many people would know the name Gary yorovsky if he had not been featured and promoted on freely's YouTube channel to what extent was freely herself personally responsible for creating the cultural phenomenon which now seems short-lived and minor but seemed enormous at the time of Gary orofsky again I've talked to people who lived through it and you know it it probably is possible for some internet archaeologist to go and crunch the numbers and try to figure out you know the level of Fame he had achieved before he uh collaborated with or was was promoted by freely and the level of the fame he achieved after to what extent was it freely to what extent was it his appearances in newspapers and much later being interviewed by the Nightly News and that kind of thing but you know everyone who lived through it they will all say open you know oh yeah you know like freely really played a part in making eurovsky into this uh towering major figure okay how many people would have ever heard the name James Ashby outside of Australia if he hadn't been promoted on the YouTube channel of really the botanic girl now again someone could try to Crunch the numbers some of these things are qualitative some of them are quantitative you know it's not easy to say just how important she was as opposed to James asked me appearing in a newspaper article appearing on television James asked me had become known within Australia to some extent but he was known as a um you know minor curiosity in the news he was a young man who took a vow of silence as I recall for a year correct me if I'm wrong right to say this is a footnote in the history of veganism would be a great exaggeration freely played a huge part she was an important Catalyst in taking this you know a minor news story it's not front page news I was page six or page 12 or whatever this minor news story and then turning this guy into a champion for a major advocate for a major figure in the vegan movement now I am not saying this to insult you in my audience okay I know a lot of you okay many of you at least had a period of your life where you unironically looked up to James aspie as the future Martin Luther King Jr of the vegan movement if not the present Martin Luther King Jr okay a lot of you had a period of your lives in which you looked up to either Wayne seong or Gary arovsky or freely herself or durian writer himself right in which you with with no irony saw these people not in a detached skeptical nihilistic way analyzing who are you where do you come from what have you accomplished what are your aspirations to the Future how are you going to accomplish those goals right like that's a cool detached analysis you looked at them and you analyzed who they were in the present in the context of the fantasy you had about what they were going to accomplish in the future all right now look okay obviously we could give thousands of examples here but just to give one all right the people who really admired Patrice Khan colors I believe that's how you pronounce my name a lot of people who say colors for her name but regardless the most prominent founder and leader of the black lives matter movement okay um did they analyze who she was where she came from what her specific promises and plans were for what she was going to accomplish in the future and then whether or not she'd accomplish them right now that's what I did right with a total Detachment I'll just just to be honest about the order in which I did this the first thing I looked at were her plans for the future like okay so this is a political activist and political leader what do you want to accomplish how are you going to accomplish I looked at the Constitution for her political organization right which she was accepting donations for at that time selling T-shirts for and so on right okay so what's the definition of what you're going to do and how you're going to do it and what you refuse to do I made a video about that at that time I'm glad I did because now all that has disappeared from the internet right now that was the first thing I looked at later I looked at oh what's her education what University degree does she have you know if someone doesn't have University what kind of job did they do in the past what has she published what's her written work what is her written work about what are her political positions on a variety of issues unrelated to like you know unrelated to veganism or unrelated to Black lives matter I'm related to police brutality what can I know about this person from what they say about politics economic zone and you start to form a kind of detached rational analysis of who this person is what's good and what's what's bad about them right that's how I thought about James Ashby and so I thought about Gary Roski for for all these people right now what I'm suggesting to you is millions of people Millions looked at who Patrice Khan colors was and they didn't ask themselves any of those questions they didn't do any of that investigating they didn't think those things through rationally they thought of who this person is now and they thought of their bright future but that future is nothing but a figment of your imagination boy does it move a lot of money boy that confidence in a better future and we come out of a culture that worships belief that inculcates Blind Faith right as soon as people are committed to believing in that future there's this whole deeply Christian discourse that emerges of don't you want to believe along with me don't you want to donate money along with me don't you want to March and chant and sing and dance in the streets and hold a sign and don't you want to be part of don't you want to be on the right side of History don't you want to support the next Martin Luther King Jr okay there never was any reason to think Patrice Khan colors would be the next Martin Luther King Jr there was no reason to think she wanted to become the next Dr Martin Luther King Jr that was you what she was trying to do or what she was motivated to do if you just looked at the life she lived up to that time and what she was doing at the time which was playing in the future you could actually see what kind of a person she was what kind of agenda she had you you know I'm not saying she's the worst person in the world but you know you could see she was completely the wrong person to play that role that her admirers her followers fantasized for because that's all it was was a fantasy shall I repeat that verbatim about durian writer about freely about Gary yorovsky frankly about Gary francione about the most respectable of these people let alone uh the least all right so look I'm not getting a lot of questions from the audience here and you know Melissa is uh Melissa is also a value member of my audience she gets to ask her questions uh verbally you know the question I am putting to you tonight is who is and what is going to be just a minor footnote in the history of the vegan movement and what is really going to matter right now look I don't okay all right okay up to a certain point people really believed in James ask me it may sound like a joke it's not and in James Ashby's case you know maybe the comparison to Martin Luther King Jr is a bit of a stretch maybe I mean maybe to come up with some other more kind of hippie Hindu long hair spiritual gurus uh motivational speakers you know maybe people thought of him as the uh in a slightly different category from Dr Martin Luther King Jr um you know however you know they thought this was a great and important leader for veganism and they donated money they didn't just believe in him you know they voted with their wallets and they created this International Superstar and as you know he very much believed in his own uh International super stardom okay now James Ashby always a big part of his story was that he was a drug addict okay now in in my biased opinion he still is a drug addict marijuana counts as a drug people and you know I think if you go back and look at it with Detachment you can see this is a guy who always cared about money Fame Power Respect sex like he always wanted to have this kind of rock star lifestyle and now by the way you can go watch my videos with analyze and take it apart I mean eventually the facade kind of broke down and he admitted what his motivations were and what his methods were and what he was trying to accomplish and how he wanted to accomplish it you know okay so now in retrospect you can uh you can see this all right I think the easiest way to say you know these sorry the areas Department the clearest criteria for us to determine who is and who is not a minor footnote and there's Divine movement doesn't have to do with their accomplishments doesn't have to do with the size of the audience it actually has to do with their motivations and with their moral and intellectual character all right we know what James aspie was trying to do right and we also know in a sense why he could never do it or why he could never accomplish more than he did and that has everything to do with his stupidity has everything to do with his moral character uh so on and so forth right now guys if you have been watching this channel lately you have seen the dramatic revelation of who Aaron Janus really is and I don't get any thrill out of doing it guys I do not enjoy exposing and criticizing Aaron Janus I don't and I wouldn't blame you if you thought if you wouldn't blame you for having a mistaken impression did I take a certain gleeful joy in this all right but it's indeed with a certain kind of dread and in a certain kind of relief it's okay finally it's on the historical record just how crazy and this person really is and in as much as she is an important leader in the vegan movement her leader her leadership is dangerous because she's so crazy so if you don't know what I'm talking about there's a YouTube video that's actually on one of my other channels that is called the politics of being Aaron Janus you get the whole story bundled up in one video there okay and look again okay so when you're in the middle of it when history is unfolding people believed in the leadership of their engines to what extent you want to compare her to Martin Luther King Jr to what extent you want to compare it to Mahatma Gandhi you know because again there was a spiritual component to this right um it is now easy to say Aaron Janus is just a minor footnote in the history of the vegan movement why she got more views on YouTube than I did so did James Ashby so did freely right why because of her intentions because of her moral and intellectual character she'll she'll never matter she never could have mattered and in retrospect it's even easy to see it and feel like oh well she never did matter this this never meant anything at the time when you were living through it the vast majority of people not me but the vast majority of people they don't analyze what she's saying now what she's doing now or even what she's telling you where plans are now like when she's doing fundraising hey if you donate this money to me here's what I'm gonna do with it they don't analyze it in that way they look at her now and think about the glory of what she's going to accomplish in the future it's her future accomplishments that give her the appearance of greatness that give her this long Shadow right I would say again it's not just Aaron it's all of these figures they seem to loom so large in the vegan movement and now we can say they didn't really matter at all and now it seems difficult to even imagine that they were ever so important to you again freely was tremendous important people during murder was been many many videos talking about that I don't trivialize it I'm pointing to a problem here as with all these things my bottom line is to talk about what you are going to do with the next five years of your life starting today the problem I'm pointing to here is a problem in uh the perception of reality how we think and feel about politics and how we you know how we decide well what it is we're going to do next and then get it to bed in the morning and go and do it ultimately now I said earlier I want to talk about two periods the history of the vegan movement um 1970 to 2000 and then 2000 to 2030. in an earlier video it's maybe just two videos before this I was criticizing the YouTuber rationality rules and I said with total conviction and no vacillating and no exceptions that the philosophy of Jeremy Bentham is completely trivial to veganism now in the 21st century in the idiom of this video we can say look the philosophy of Jeremy Bentham is a footnote in the history of the vegan movement it's a if there's some mild curiosity about it but I was warning I'm saying look a small number of nerds in these internet forums like Discord to them Jeremy Bentham is a big deal but let's really face up to it Jeremy Bentham has not been is not now and never will be important for the vegan movement he is a minor footnote and there's him okay now a claim like that is neither going to be true nor false you got to calibrate it it's going to be true compared to something else right between the year 1970 in the year 2000. which was more important for the development of veganism the philosophy of Jeremy Bentham or the Rastafarian religion if you think I'm joking I'm not I'm dead serious between 1970 and the year 2000 the Rastafarian religion influenced millions and millions of people yes a lot of it through music yes a lot of it through concerts if Jeremy Bentham could have concerts with millions of people singing his philosophy you think he wouldn't do it you know I mean like don't look down on rastafarianism because most people heard about the religion through music I mean some people uh through reading a book or something but sure you know music was a huge part of how we're asked the ferianism became so influential rastafarianism resulted in millions of people either becoming vegetarian or trying to be vegetarian we all know there's a failure rate in these things both for vegetarianism and veganism their idiom was to talk about vegetarianism and righteousness not veganism but as you can imagine that created a basis for and an interest in veganism them throughout black American culture black British culture black Caribbean culture to some extent and yeah millions and millions of white people listen to the Rastafarian music too in case you don't know this is enormously influential okay so now already with just this one example right and think about the years 1970 to 2000. in that span of time what was more influential in the development of veganism Jeremy Bentham is this tiny footnote and actually rastafarianism is something that we have to take seriously okay there was in the same period of time 1970 2000 a massive level of public interest in the United States of America and Western Europe and Australia a massive level of public interest in the philosophy of Hinduism I don't even have to specify which philosophy within Hinduism let's just broadly say in a category the philosophy of Hinduism Hinduism doesn't preach veganism rastafarianism also doesn't preach very veganism in case you didn't know Jeremy Bentham doesn't preach veganism he doesn't Okay such a joke trying to make a big deal out of Jeremiah any one of these any one of these kind of uh you know philosophers like kind of matters in a Parlor Room you gotta keep this in mind okay all right there is one of my rivals here on YouTube uh Hitomi muchuzuki you know Hitomi as a unique historical individual to what extent was her interest in veganism shaped by the culture that emerged and persisted from 1970 through the year 2000 the cultural fascination with Hinduism cultural fascination with rastafarianism a number of other African-American new religious movements like the five percenter movement five percent of movement if it was me if you don't know who the Five Percenters are have you heard of the Wu-Tang Clan almost I mean every Wu-Tang album if not every song has five percent or uh preaching in it this very peculiar small new religious movement of the United States of America right I I didn't convert I didn't become a member of the faith or anything but I heard those lyrics and I heard them a hundred times yeah it influences you right um uh other eccentric new religious movements the United States like Black Hebrew Israelites right if we take those together in one category along with rastafarianism all of a sudden I was oh well you know African-Americans have decades and Decades of of interest in vegetarianism ethical vegetarianism that are different and you know um you guys probably with a Seventh-Day Adventists all right a unique individual like Hitomi watuzuki emerges out of the cultural stew of these important influences and in saying they're important I of course I don't mean to say that they're good of course they don't mean to say that they're good or they're intelligent or or what have you we can sit here and talk about you know the importance of Adolf Hitler and how much influence he had or something it's not praising him it's just acknowledging historically that you know who's had more influence in the history of the world Jeremy Bentham or Adolf Hitler I mean I'm sorry to break it to you but the philosophy Adolf Hitler is complete horseshit it's completely insane uh apart I mean apart from calling it evil it's stupid it's stupid and it's crazy well okay guess what Jeremy Bentham you know didn't didn't add up to much his influence in the history of the world especially not talking about 1970 through uh the year 2000. so these these kinds of claims and so I'm saying this to someone who's just published a book talking about vegan politics talking about the philosophy of veganism talking about putting two together now vegan political philosophy I'm totally aware that many of my colleagues will be ready to snub me and say that I'm nothing but a minor footnote in the history of veganism I want to talk about intention I want to talk about moral character and an intellectual substance okay I am aware that Earthling Ed and his book is going to sell more copies than my book I am aware that Dr greger's how not to die sold more copies whatever all right but I am really seriously asking the question of whether or not we are going to look back at Dr Greger the same way that today we already look back at Gary orofsky and we shrug and say um he was just a minor footnote in the history of the vegan movement okay is Dr Greger going to be the Martin Luther King Jr of veganism like you look at what he's done in the past you look at who he is the background he comes from you look at what he's doing right now you look at his Constitution so to speak how he defines the multi-million dollar organization he's the head of I've had videos in the past talking about the budget just just how much money they've got right and then you ask where is he going from here what is he going to do with these millions of dollars in this famous accomplished of a famous attained whatever you want to say right where does it go from here now I am not predicting that his career is going to end the way Aaron Janice's career ended I'm not predicting it's going to end the way James asked for his career ended either I'm not predicting it's going to end the way during writer's career ended okay I I think that simply he is a burnt match that the potential he had it has burnt out it has come and gone and that what I'm expecting in the next five years what I'm expecting Dr Greger to accomplish in the next five years is nothing I think he's going to accomplish nothing more than the perpetuation frankly of his own wealth all right now why has to do with intention it has to do with intellectual and moral character when I look at Gary francione okay we do not have a formal system of aristocracy in the United States and Canada we do not call people Duke duchess Baron VI count we don't use those words all right but in our social hierarchy in our economic hierarchy it's very plain to see that Gary francione came into this game as an aristocrat at a very high level all right think about the profession he had as as a lawyer think about the position he attained as a professor of law and I have had several vegan activists complain to me you know these are complaints so they may not be entirely factual but they complain that he's actually enormously wealthy and they know this from having worked with him and talked to them they're not so far with movement and so on and that he's not really doing anything for the future of the movement given his tremendous wealth and power now look what I say back that if you're if you're confused about how wealthy is I don't even know if his parents are wealthy before him or his grandmother's I don't know if he has inherited wealth or not um just look up how much a professor at his level makes per year it's just with no other factors of course he's wealth of course all my professors were wealth I didn't have any poor professors here in Canada I had professors making over a hundred thousand dollars a year I don't know about you how about professors of law professors in the Department of Law you know you can look it up I don't know I can't say this for every single University in the world at my University I could look up exactly how much money the professors made I've made other videos talking about that these and now it's not the only way to make money it's probably not its only source of income um I I don't mean anything bad by that but you know just say uh that we have no reason to assume that that's his only source of income though this is a tremendously wealthy tremendously powerful person and thus it is completely unsurprising that he was able to attain a certain level of respect power and influence in the vegan movement now I'm just being real here I am not old enough to remember a time in which people looked at Gary francione the way I can remember them looking at Gary rovsky I cannot remember I just wasn't alive I wasn't there so long ago so he was he was he was present he was in the room when peda was founded he goes way back everything he's a generation earlier right but if you knew someone from regeneration they would be able to remember a time when vegans looked up to and looked at Gary francione as quite possibly the Dr Martin Luther King Jr of the vegan movement where there was that hope there was that aspiration oh here's this guy so again it depends what what stage he's at uh whether you know as a lawyer as a professor and so on obviously is his power and wealth and fame increase but here's this guy who's completely committed long term to the future of the vegan movement who starts in such an extraordinary position of of power and influence now so again this is someone who's now retired he's not deceased but he's he's published his last book as as he explained it himself if he goes on to publish another book I'm happy for him but he said this was his final statement about the big movement and so on when he published that book and I've I've reviewed the book his final statement on the political philosophy of veganism you can draw your own conclusions at any point during that long career you could have asked of Gary francione in your own mind what are you going to accomplish in the next five years the same question I'm asking today about Dr Greger the same question I asked more than five years ago about Gary urovsky the same question I asked about Wayne seong a single question asked in in really what it was like an eight-year mission to really survey analyze investigate and understand what was going on in the vegan movement in Mission that ultimately concludes with the publication of my book it's only 100 page book you can read it pretty quickly it's it's short but hard hitting um you know veganism future of an illusion this is this is the book that gathers together all this stuff I learned from all these years investigation right I was looking at these people and you know some when I was talking to them face to face I asked them directly where are you going to be five years from now what do you want to have accomplished five years ago what are you going to do to to get there so sometimes they did talk to them directly and when I wasn't talking to them directly when I was asking you guys in the audience I was asking you to consider yourself and ask the same question but I was asking about them look look guys what do you where do you really think this Gary orofsky Act is going this guy who's crazy and I had this clip I played with him again again where he was talking about getting guns and shooting people and using violence we had these other Clips we were saying crazy things about Palestinians and Israelis right you had all these signs of how insane he was in the role of violence in his in his thinking and I'm asking you the question okay so where do you think this is heading right and various suggestions that it was nowhere good and I was right so you know you know the story of the story ends for you um okay these were people given extraordinary opportunities extraordinary power extraordinary influence and look to some extent they earned it too to some extent they had Talent you know I'm not saying it was given to them uh for no reason at all but these were people who had opportunities that probably nobody in this audience will ever have and uh a lot of other people might have wanted to have those opportunities a lot of other people would have wanted to be on stage or to have that interview with that uh television station and speak to the news or have that position of leadership or have that frankly money ultimately a lot of this comes down to donations given to vegan organizations um so on and so forth okay given the extraordinary power wealth Fame respect influence held by Gary orofsky why did he accomplish so little in the last five years of his career given the extraordinary wealth power Fame influence why did Gary francione accomplish a little why did Earthling Ed accomplish so little in the last five years and what do you think he's going to accomplish in the next five years why did Joey karbstrong accomplish so little in the last five years and what do you seriously think he's going to accomplish in the next five years Paul Bashir if you don't recognize the name Paul Bashir the founder and leader of anonymous to the voiceless and we've all seen the numbers for how much money he was given he had this big Financial Scandal embarrassment of riches because he did receive a lot of money and donations for some of these guys we don't know how much money they got okay why did he accomplish so little in the last five years and what do you think he's going to accomplish in the next five years it comes down to intellectual character moral character and intentions because when you look back in retrospect very often you'll say oh but these people weren't really lying to me James asked me never really promised he was going to accomplish anything did he it's not like he let me down like what what was it that James asked me ever promised you what was it that freely or during writer I promise what was it these people were supposed to accomplish that they didn't all right and now beyond that the real question is in your mind and in your heart what was it you felt they should have accomplished but they couldn't because they lacked the necessary intellectual character they lacked the necessary moral character and they didn't even have good intentions the most important lesson for you to learn from the very recent history of the black lives matter movement is that if the people in charge the leaders if the people who have executive power are of the wrong intellectual character or of the wrong moral character if they have the wrong intentions does not matter how much money you pour on them it does not matter how many interviews with mainstream TV channels you manage to Usher them into you managed to arrange for them does not matter how many books you publish mainstream Publishers how much promotion you give them and it does not even matter how many thousands or how many millions of people march in the streets scream or chant their name hold up signs no matter how much support they get economically politically in all of these ways no matter how much money Fame power respect and sex they get no matter how much is poured onto them or poured into their organization they will accomplish nothing because an institution is nothing more than the length and Shadow of just one man the defects of moral an intellectual character the defects in the plans in the stated intentions the articulated goals and the Constitutions of these organizations they doom them from the first no matter how bright they may burn on social media no matter how huge an audience they may command for a short time or for a long time as Gary yorovski once did as freely once did and so on right they are doomed to be remembered as nothing more than footnotes in the history of the vegan movement