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first I am NOT vegan to be vegan or to
be part of a community within five seconds a natural vegan here mentions the other topic I may be infamous for for speaking about in an overly blunt down-to-earth way community so in the past I've had several videos here talking about what does it mean to say vegans our community have we ever been a community will we ever get our act together to be a community unnatural vegan here makes the interesting statement that she's not in it for a community that's not her objective it's not her concern well I differ from her there and this is not a criticism of her it is a it is a personal difference that I think is worth reflecting on I am more ambitious than that I am more rapacious than that yeah I want a real community look at Mothers Against Drunk Driving Mothers Against Drunk Driving have an office at least one office in every US state there's a 50 states in United States they have more than 50 offices that are staffed and open all the time they've got that we don't you tell me in 2016 what's a more important message Mothers Against Drunk Driving or veganism its veganism even if in the past even if in the 1980s you know maybe there was an argument mothers gonna stroke driving were a really important lobby today veganism is a message that absolutely needs to have 50 offices in the United States you know I I really lived through the period of time when when gay groups went from being marginal to being ascendant to be very influential when I was living in Toronto there were a number of different gay offices staffed offices for gay rights you know I remember there was one that was just specialized in lesbians and you know different multiple gay offices with multiple political perspectives and if there was some controversy the newspapers would go and interview those foundations now they were nonprofit political organizations they want to say so you know let say the police commissioner made a homophobic remark you know the newspapers would go an interview oh let's go to that gay Foundation and get gay legal rights advocacy group and get their opinion on this something like that that's a real community that's that's a facet of that's a reflection of in Toronto definitely at that time there was a real gay community they had a neighborhood they had buildings they had offices they had lawyers they had night clubs they had festivals I mean the gay community in Toronto not every city has that there were multiple well organized vocal gay communities and the newspapers could go to them okay it would be different if we were at the level of Mothers Against Drunk Driving it would be different with their level of Jews in British Columbia I mean Jewish people are a tiny minority in this part of Canada they have bricks and mortar institutions they have real organizations they have they have fellowships and you know the scholarships and all kinds of benefits are people from cradle to grave and ultimately you can go there and attend a picnic and talk to other human beings face to face and whatever from fundraising to charity work everything can make a big difference I'm I want it all I want a real community and I see no reason to pretend that I don't want that or that I wouldn't value that I see no reason to pretend that veganism is completely satisfactory to me if it's just a diet or just something I do in private and that can't have any political ramifications by blood I'm Jewish by belief I'm a nihilistic atheist nevertheless for my family and for my own life it would benefit me more to pretend to be a religious Jew for me to start participating you know in the temple because Judaism here in Canada can provide me with a real community everything from the picnics to the retirement homes picnics to private schools to retirement homes okay from the cradle to the grave the lifecycle benefits of having a community are provided by Judaism are provided by Mormonism are provided by all kinds of crazy ideologies that rest on your believing in a God that doesn't exist resting on your saying prayers that will never be heard by anyone unless you say your prayers on YouTube then your YouTube followers can I look at groups like the Mormons and I think I want it all I want what you people have for the Mormons it is nothing to organize a picnic that 200 people are gonna show up that okay for me even that's not enough for the Mormons it's nothing to do a fundraiser to help some orphans to set up some charity they go get a project going to throw I want that I want vegans to have that I'm worried about the whole lifecycle from cradle to grave I have a three year old daughter and I don't see that much of herb she lives in Europe I'm living in China nevertheless where is my daughter gonna go to school where is my daughter gonna go to gate daycare where am I gonna go to a retirement home or where would my grandparents go to a retirement home from the cradle to the grave now look I mean the the issues with gay rights activism those also change over time I think in the recent past that were hard battles for the gay community to fight and now the gay community can really celebrate that so many of those battles have been won you know in Canada I'm sure I mean Saudi Arabia is another story there are tons of countries where the fights for basic gay rights are still you know at an early stage don't get me wrong but here in Canada we were one of the first countries to have gay marriage there's a whole you know legal battle surrounding that equal rights for gays and so on those battles fundamentally have already been won okay the battles for veganism are just beginning where's that office where's that neighborhood where's that nightclub where's the retirement home radicular Center I want it all I am fundamentally much more ambitious than a natural vegan I'm not satisfied with what you guys call community I'm not satisfied with a bunch of self-indulgent middle-aged people sitting around on Facebook giving each other the thumbs up or I'm not satisfied with a bunch of teenagers on Instagram photographing their asses in a bikini and saying they're changing the world none of that does it for me okay I want more can I have it today no can I have it next year no am I gonna see it before I die maybe mothers against drunk driving in just a few years they took off what percentage of people in America really give a damn about mothers against Roe it's a minority really it's a small minority of people who support a foundation like that okay tremendously successful what percentage of people support like really donate money to to Jewish temples in Canada I don't know I mean small small minority in the past I talked about Sikhism within Canada these are small minority religious movements and again I mean with with homosexuals homosexuality isn't a diet they don't need to have separate restaurants but they do like in Toronto it's there's a district there or there is such a thing as a gay restaurant even though there's no such thing as gay food offense we have a reason to organize bricks and mortar to have a restaurant in a physical place yeah I want it all from cradle to the grave from you know the bricks and mortar temple to the lawyers to the political organization to having that foundation that's respected enough that when there's a controversy in government the newspapers know who to call maybe there are several foundations than the call where there's a voice advocating for veganism in parliament in the newspapers on the street yeah I want it and I'm willing to recognize I don't have it that's real community and we're gonna have to work real hard to get for me as a vegan it's easy to be self-righteous easy to say shut it all down snatch all the dangers set all the animals free that's put the whole reason why my youtube channel exists is that I'm not really interested in these answers to help get a question I'm the dressed in general the murky complicated you know moral gray areas [Music] evolution