Ex-Veganism, the "forbidden fruit" fetish of our times

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two minutes long it may feel like the longest two minutes of your life but stick with me here yet commentary and analysis afterwards I would like to draw your attention to the fact that her reasons for getting involved with veganism her reasons for becoming vegan are entirely detached and rational whereas her reasons for leaving veganism her reasons are becoming an ex vegan have to do with desire and it's a sense of desire that she asserts as biologically in neatly real I'll just dive straight into things I became a vegan yeah like four years ago and I was driven by environmental sustainability and climate change reasons for becoming a vegan at that time I was getting my undergraduate degree in environmental science and anthropology so it was like emergence of like society in humans with the environment and like the main focal point where a research was on food systems and I concluded that the current food system and where we get our food and how food is produced in the animal use associated with that is unacceptable and I transitioned into a vegan lifestyle so I was like trying everything that I possibly could to avoid switching out of veganism and got my blood work done and you would think that vegans are normally deprived and stuff but I wasn't my iron was on point because I eat so many greens and yeah my hemoglobin was good my b12 obviously was on point like everything was good the only issue was the low blood pressure and finally it was like okay I can't keep living with like coming in and out of like consciousness in a way and blacking out multiple times in the daylight so I introduced seafood nuts seafood fish and eggs I just kind of like lived with it and have been with it until about one month ago when I was at the grocery store with my partner and we both like the chicken both kind of caught her eyes and he was like wouldn't chicken be so good I was like yeah I have so many mental barriers to eating animal-based foods and I have so much guilt around introducing animal foods back into my diet but then it was just when the chicken off shame came up it was like I I really want this it was something like physiological but the chicken was amazing it was so good I was like what is this heaven and since then I have been having chicken about once every four to five days and my local oppression symptoms have virtually vanished disclaimer I am NOT a Christian I am in fact a very vocal atheist identify as a nihilist however I can recognize that Christian culture and Christian civilization provided people with a certain kind of education and awareness in a certain finite set of themes that is now bit-by-bit disappearing from our sight so some things that were not just familiar but overly familiar just a generation and a half ago are now becoming obscure and hard to understand for a new generation growing up in a much less Christian society one example of that is the mentality of desiring the forbidden fruit objectively a woman is no more attractive no more appealing no more sexy when she's dressed up as a nun than when she's wearing blue jeans and a t-shirt and yet it was an incredibly widely attested factor in our culture in our society in the West that up until quite recently there were all of these men with an erotic fascination having sex with a woman dressed up as a nun now why would that be they were raised in school very often including high school where there were nuns who were their teachers and superiors who often were mean to them who often beat them with a ruler who spanked them with a ruler they grew up with these kind of oppressive figures dressed up as nun females who were by definition both forbidding and forbidden they were a symbol of authority they were a symbol of something unattainable and of course they might imagine that underneath the nuns uniform these women were tremendously beautiful or attractive there were a lot of people who grew up with that sexual fascination and then it was exhibited in a kind of lifelong fetish this is something Western civilization was not just aware of but I think everyone was quite bored of hearing about I knew a man who actually was sentenced to prison briefly he was actually sentenced to prison because he was a Peace protester he was an anti-military protester put it that way you know he was he was sent to prison briefly as a young man and he had a lifelong fascination with having sex with women in police uniform and he once had sex with a woman who was a judge in her judges uniform in the judges robes [Music] it's not deep but it's real I mean this kind of fetishism this kind of response to forbidden fruit again it's something that just a generation ago people would have been so familiar with they would have found it boring to discuss and yet today I think it's interesting that we see this phenomenon of you know anti veganism playing out it seems to me all the players in the game including pro-v and critics they really seem to be unaware of how powerful this type of desire is and how people rationally or irrationally like I either either thinking it through rationally or without any such steps taken to the mind they will really assert that their own desires are in fact innate biological needs is the most common thing in the world he's hopeful you want something but you'd rather believe that you need something right you actually have a very fetishistic and kinky reason why this stuff as a nut as more attractive to you but you want to think it's something natural and necessary and innate and good because you wanna question psychologically why it is you you perceive it this way why does you experience it this way right now in terms of objective scientific facts here women who actually choose to become nuns you know not not if you pay a stripper to dress up like a nun also coming also coming to paste your first address of as police officers and so on all these other authority figures alright there is no objective sense in which a woman who is a nun is more attractive than any other woman in the same sense can we all just agree here objectively chicken does not taste good I'm vegan okay but I remember the taste of tasted chicken white chicken breast okay there's a bit of a greasy taste to it and then otherwise it's just salt and it's flavorless chicken has an almost neutral flavor it almost tastes like nothing aside from the salt and massive amounts of salt grata to it and to some extent the grease of the oil if you're having chicken that's cooked in a method that adds a lot of lot of oil and grease to it right we we know this which peppy there's really a sense in which you can even measure what does chicken tastes like and why is it that in our culture in all cultures all of these sauces and spices and oily batters have to be added to chicken to make it taste like anything at all all right this young woman just described to you vividly how she had this response to seeing chicken you know she had this response to the flavor of chicken and she then makes the leaps of inference that this was a cure for her medical problems and it does sound like in her case she had legitimate medical problems but eating chicken is not the cure or eating chicken is not the best of the old be cure if you have low blood pressure there must be a better way to deal with it than eating foods you know to be unhealthy but that can raise your blood pressure Fried Chicken has the cure for load load load blood pressure what a concept you should get a peer-reviewed paper on that this is really ridiculous right but I'm inviting you here to focus on and really think about the mentality of forbidden fruit what is it that made the chicken seem so fascinating what is it that made it taste so sweet it was precisely the sense of being forbidden it was precisely as she said her own sense of guilt of challenging that guilt and OH coming those inhibitions millions of people are fascinated with that stuff and I gotta say I feel qualified to speak on it because I feel none of it to me there is absolutely nothing that makes for example a Muslim woman wearing the headscarf and veil that makes her more appealing than a woman in blue jeans and a t-shirt noting the fact that it's forbidden the fact that it's mysterious does nothing for me all right my life is about real relationships with real people on the basis of real self knowledge and real mutual knowledge and real friendship and real common ground you know I want a woman I can relate to as an intellectual and want a woman all the things I want have nothing to do with this kind of fetish for the unknown fetish for the unattainable fetish for the forbidden and the forbidden I don't fetishize authority figures anyway I don't relate to any of it so I feel like I'm standing back with a sense of perfect attachment here and it's the strange thing that in 2020 within the sort of vegan demi-monde see you see without the only person pointing this out and saying wait these people these X vegans for the most part they joined veganism for these very rational very detached reasons that they can explain in so many words in a narrative form right and then they drop out of veganism for reasons that are wildly incoherent that if everything to do with passion over reason ever to do with desire over topic their minds and if we go back to the first premise in the case of this woman oh oh so you think all of a sudden you think chicken tastes great when it has this forbidden quality when you know you're overcoming the years of guilt and your ideological commune oh really so tell me something your entire university education in ecological science and anthropology is that worthless now all the facts and figures that you knew and shared with the world and cared about about ecological devastation of oppression is that all meaningless now is that what desire means to you or is it the case that your fetish has to take a step further that you have to convince yourself that this fetish or indulging in is a physiological necessity that meat is actually a medicine that cures this mysterious illness you made up in your own mind that you have you have to take those further steps precisely because of this gulf between what you rationally know what your ethnic Li committed to and frankly what turns you on so make sure you give this video a like and make sure that you subscribe to my channel I would be very grateful thank you for tuning in thank you thank you thank you thank you I'll see you guys next time