Miley Cyrus Did Nothing Wrong: the Future of Veganism is YOU.

05 September 2020 [link youtube]


Yes, the thumbnail refers to her as "the Queen of the Finks", and yes the title insists that the future of Veganism is YOU. But you can't fit everything into a thumbnail: the video also deals with Joey Carbstrong, Paul Bashir and Mike Tyson. Here's the link to the musician playing the version of the song quoted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTwC3Bf25tQ

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if you respected miley cyrus before
when it was convenient for you and all of a sudden you've got no respect for her now what does that tell me about you what does that tell me about the judgments you're willing to make the excuses you're willing to make when it's ideologically convenient for you i'm a vegan but the reason that i kind of started this was because i had a fish that was highly intelligent and i'm also highly stoned 2 000 years later how can i love someone i never touched you lived under the water but i love you so much [Music] you've never been on land and you've never seen the sky you don't know what a cloud is why does everything in love have to die they all wanted to see you be as big as you could be i couldn't let that be keeping you small by keeping you safe if i could do it again i'd release you to see cause i can't bear to see something so i'll just die in a day [Music] i miss you so much [Music] so on a saturday night we all went out to eat but i can never decide so someone chose sushi i got soup and i order rice watching my friends eat my [Music] [Music] they only knew you like i do they love you too and the flow of fish [Music] i won't forget [Music] we have a lot of [ __ ] sayings in english language along the lines of judge ye not lest you be judged when you hire someone you're making a judgment when you agree to work with someone you're making a judgment when you refuse to work with someone you're making a judgment when you acknowledge and support and donate to someone as leader of a political movement as a leader of the vegan cause you are making a judgment you choose your leaders you choose who you're gonna respect who you're gonna disrespect these are all judgments when we make judgments we reveal something of ourselves we reveal and we sometimes discover who we ourselves really are in making judgments so make your judgments carefully mike tyson was until a few days ago a celebrated leader of the vegan movement a lot of people sympathize with him a lot of people supported him it's not clear if he ever had a vegan diet at all he claims he was vegan for several years but there were film clips of him eating meat and talking about eating animal products from within those two years so maybe he just got hyped up doing an interview on the ellen degeneres show and he knew ellen was vegan and he started talking about being vegan himself but what does it say about you if you chose mike tyson as your leader yeah he said he was vegan for a few years there he now openly states that he's ex-vegan he also converted to islam he also converted to buddhism he also converted to communism and got a massive tattoo of mao zedong the dictator of china on his body that he still carries on his body to this day mike tyson has a long history of extreme ideological flip-flops and dare we forget that he's a convicted rapist he had his day in court he had his trial he went to jail for rape so what does it say about you if you're willing to settle that aside and recognize him as a positive symbol for veganism the only thing he could possibly be a positive symbol of is the fact that any idiot can convert to vegan that no matter how stupid you are and no matter how brain damaged by decades of drug addiction you may be veganism is such a simple idea and such a simple practice that even you can practice it and of course that's what mike tyson has in common with miley cyrus is a long history of drug use a long history of drug addiction if you respected miley cyrus before when it was convenient for you and all of a sudden you've got no respect for her now what does that tell me about you what does that tell me about the judgments you're willing to make the excuses you're willing to make when it's ideologically convenient for you someone like donald trump he's not wrong about everything i can make a whole list of things that donald trump just happens to be right about i can make a list of things that are infinitely debatable neither clearly right or wrong but that happen to be ideologically convenient for me to support donald trump on i think donald trump is a terrible human being i think donald trump is an imbecile and totally immoral to his core but he can't be wrong about everything there are some big issues he's right on like china that's an issue involving one billion people in their struggle against a communist dictatorship the same communist dictatorship that mike tyson supports the same communist dictatorship created by mao zedong that mike tyson has tattooed on his arm as it happens yeah you know what donald trump's position on china it's ideologically convenient for me am i out here making excuses for donald trump supporting donald trump or recognizing him as some kind of leader no all right my judgment of who he is also tells you something about who i am and my character right i'm a person of principle i'm someone who at least tries to be an intellectual who tries to have opinions that are based on active research not just based on my personal prejudices biases convenience of the moment right from my perspective someone like donald trump is utterly despicable and he would still be despicable if he were right about twice as many issues in politics the guy is so erratic he flip-flops on issues all the time it's totally possible that the day after tomorrow he's going to announce that he supports a 15 minimum wage and free health care for the poor it's totally possible and i still won't support him because i have a judgment of who he is and his character and that really matters it matters even for someone like mike tyson it matters even for someone like miley cyrus and guys i've been doing this thing critique of what's going on in the vegan movement for over five years now and the fact of the matter is i'm all alone precisely because i'm unwilling to make this kind of moral compromise what sort of person is joey carbstrong joey carbstrong has a whole lot in common with miley cyrus he has a whole lot in common with mike tyson right joey carbstrong long history of drug addiction history of being in and out of prison on serious criminal charges like mike tyson to my knowledge not like miley cyrus i don't know what prison record she's got but but if miley cyrus hasn't been to prison it's just luck that she never got caught right let's face it when i look at someone like joey carbstrong i've got to look at him the same way i look at mike tyson and miley cyrus he may be right about one or two issues today he may have struck on the right answers to a couple questions i've got a long memory i can remember when he was in chiang mai thailand supporting durianrider can you remember that can you remember that he went through an ideological period of being a durian writer flunky a durian writer clone and who's he following now he's following paul beshear what's what's your judgment of paul beshear as a leader in the vegan movement also a longtime drug addict also a lot of the same problems of moral character and shall we say limited intellectual potential that we see across the board here with all these examples yes you have to judge you have to judge people in terms of how much integrity they've got how much raw intellect they've got how much intellectual potential they've got part of donald trump's problem is indeed that he's stupid it's not just about right and wrong it's not just about ignorance as opposed to being well informed there are also judgments we have to make here about raw intelligence but how much potential this person has to investigate the truth and learn the truth and figure out right from wrong on the fly and when i look at someone like paul beshear when i look at someone like joey carbstrom when i look at someone like miley cyrus and then i've got to turn around and look at their hundreds of thousands of followers i have to ask aren't you people afraid to hold this person up as your leader don't you have a moment of trepidation in reflecting on what this means for you and you and you and the judgment on who you are how how how do you feel there must be people in this audience how do you feel looking back knowing that you looked up to mike tyson as a as a leader in the vegan movement and now it's revealed he's not even vegan and in a real sense he never was seems like he never even ate a vegan diet consistency for any number of years he was a convicted rapist that didn't matter to you he converted to islam he converted to buddhism he converted he obviously had a track record of flip-flopping through conversions to one extreme ideology after another and never really believing in them and never really practice them and yes by the way irony of ironies mike tyson also supported donald trump for president good luck trying to put together some kind of coherent political program of that good luck good luck trying to put together a coherent political program out of veganism when in the 21st century the reality is a guy like joey carbstrong manages to get a few radio interviews television interviews a few newspaper articles written and everyone jumps on his bad wagon and supports him as this great leader for veganism and he's not i i sympathize with joey carpenter you someone have chatted with a little bit he's an idiot he's an imbecile okay i'm i'm above 40 years old how many people have you known in your whole life who started off dumb and and turned out brilliant how many of you known i've known so many people who were brilliant who had a lot of intellectual potential and they ended up stupid right they're people with a lot of potential but they become drug addicts and it snuffs out the intellectual potential people who are brilliant but they become depressed because they live in a society where they're surrounded by a conspiracy of dances they're surrounded by morons right and it snuffs out their potential and they do nothing with us that's very common i've seen that again and again and again all right i can't remember a single example of someone where you know they were they were stupid they were stupid in the way donald trump is stupid they were stupid in the way miley cyrus is stupid all right and they managed to put the bricks together to build that wall and become brilliant i've never seen it even once i still want to believe in it i still want to believe that i could meet someone who's an idiot and they could turn it around and you know discipline their mind and become become not just a better person but really profoundly a smarter person i don't know i don't know if anyone can i don't know if anyone does all right but yeah the vegan movement is so eager to raise up idiots as leaders when it's just momentarily ideologically convenient for you and you're willing to set aside all these other red flags what does this tell me about you what does this tell me about us what does this tell me about the feature future of the vegan movement that this is this is how we operate clinging on to one celebrity after another who you know in this fleeting and shallow way puts the pieces together for veganism you know either as a diet just in terms of a health fad or in terms of a moral argument or in terms of an ecological and then and then oh what a surprise what a surprise that veganism doesn't mean more to mike tyson than converting to islam what a surprise that veganism doesn't mean more to mike that he's not more committed to this than communism which he got tattooed permanently on his body and never covered and he never saw a conflict between his support for mao zedong leader of chinese communism and support for the prophet muhammad and conversion and now you're surprised that he's just as dramatically just as suddenly given up on on veganism all right miley cyrus always was a crackhead but now only now it's inconvenient for you to face up to just how stupid she is just how damaged by drug addiction she is all right what is the future of the vegan movement it's you and it's me all right it's a bunch of isolated individuals on the internet trying to find our common ground trying to find a methodology to take this incredibly simple idea and fashion it into a political program to challenge the status quo to challenge the indifference of millions of people to transform daily life as we know it who's up for the challenge is it you or you or you do any of you any of you watching this video doubt that you have more intellectual potential than miley [ __ ] cyrus grow up stop looking for leaders stop looking for them on youtube stop looking from the internet it's not going to be paul beshear it's not going to be miley cyrus it's not going to be joey carbstrong and sure his [ __ ] is not going to be mike tyson all right the future of the vegan movement is you good morning i love you you're beautiful yes you are and you know what today is a new day and you are starting an entirely different life i have been very depressed for the last few months and i am waiting for my damn therapist to finish our vacation so i can have someone that is a licensed professional help me with this you know having suicidal thoughts and not wanting to exist is not a pleasant place to be emotionally