Acne: Quitting Nina and Randa's Insane Diet.
24 June 2019 [link youtube]
Nina and Randa promote "The Clear Skin Diet". In my girlfriend's case, the diet had very negative consequences (her acne got worse, and it had much more negative impacts beyond that) and there's a more general lesson to be learned here about having scientific attitudes (even/especially toward claims made about the curative powers of vegan diets).
#clearskindiet #vegan #vegans
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it's not hard to give advice it's not
hard to give people good advice what's really hard is giving people the advice that they need to hear but that they don't want to hear I was in this position with my girlfriend as she began her strict adherence to Nina and Rhonda's clear skin diet as she continued to adhere to it as her own acne got worse and worse ultimately ending with her having tests done at a hospital and her having to confront the extent to which she had taken a scientific hypothesis and clung to it like a religious dogma until it became not just pseudo-scientific but anti-scientific she took some that could have been a positive healthy experiment with a new and different diet and she turned into something that ruined her life for several months and frankly tore our relationship apart so this is in part a narrative about a diet a diet book Nina and randa's diet it's in part a more personal narrative about my girlfriend's experience with the diet and you can hear more from her perspective on her youtube channel and it's in part an even more personal narrative of the effects that this had on our relationship which is to some extent philosophical here's what I mean at the beginning the middle and the end of my girlfriend's adherence to the Nina and Randa diet I insisted to her that what she was doing was an experiment and I reminded her again and again that an experiment by definition is something with an outcome that remains unknown I tried to prevent her from taking on the optimistic and yet fatalistic mentality that previously she had been given bad advice by doctors who wanted her to be a slave to medication and that now she was liberated by the advice this book I pointed out to her at the beginning the middle and the end that she had ended up replicating the attitudes that she'd seen me criticize on this YouTube channel in like 2015-2016 Eve whatever even 2017 the attitudes I'd criticized amongst the followers of freelee and durianrider whereby they first took on a sort of anti-establishment bias of blaming a conspiracy of doctors nurses and hospitals and then embraced a philosophy of using food as medicine i noticed early on that Melissa had become really emotionally committed to the notion that the medical establishment had let her down had led her down the wrong path that they had shown no concern for her well for her health and put her on drugs that from her perspective would prevent her from ever really having I guess reproductive autonomy or whatever would prevent her from having a having a baby because one large part of her treatment was getting on the birth control pill at an early age and remaining on the birth control pill partly for birth control it's one side effect that's one benefit but primarily because it it prevented the eruption and for her acne now I would try to balance this narrative but pointing out to her that she was on medicine that had serious side effects but also had serious benefits she had lived she'd had a great quality of life and had had clear skin and no acne from about age 14 to age 20 for ten years and while I do not deny that the birth control pill has negative side effects the positive effects and the motivations of the doctors have put her on the pill should not be dismissed and they shouldn't be dismissed because a fad diet book like you never and his diet book is promising you that if only you would hear to the strictures of their diet strictly enough it'll cure your acne now let's be clear Nina and Rhonda's diet the only efficacy it could have and curing your acne is if if there is something in your diet that's causing your acne for example if you are allergic to peanuts or if you have something like an allergic reaction to almonds and then eliminating peanuts and almonds from your diet eliminates your acne so many people will have that effect so in effect this is the same kind of outcome as an elimination diet and as you'll see in this video elimination diets can be disregarded destructive and it can be in their way pseudo-scientific and very misleading for people but if that was your problem if that was why you had acne then Ninan ratas diet would seem to work for you miraculously this is not the only reason why women get acne hormonal acne indicates that you have a hormonal problem and my girlfriend knew from day one of this experiment the nature of her acne was not dietary it was hormonal okay that's why taking the birth control pill solved the problem alright because this is a birth control pill suppresses your hormonal cycles it changes the balance of hormones in your body all month round of course especially with reference to the menstrual cycle um so she was on a hormone suppressing drug that alleviated her acne and she guarded dread that she would quit this drug she would quit all the medication she was on she would just embrace strict adherence to this diet and that that would cure acne now again as an experiment if you can do that experiment with detachment that's one thing but that's not what she did she didn't have the attachment she wanted to believe in this diet and I kept counseling her to have caution and attachment and scientific attitude and for to admit the imperfection on body and what I got back sorry what I say that the professional body what I mean is do not start from the assumption that you are entitled to good health by birth and that it is impossible that you need medicine to have good health because that was precisely her attitude during this period of time and I kept giving her counter examples like I said to at one point you know I had another girlfriend an ex-girlfriend who needed to be on the birth control pill to live she had a different completely different health problem the birth control pill solves a lot of hormonal problems wouldn't have but another girl from the completely different other problem she had to be on birth control I gave her the example of people with dwarfism a lot of people with dwarfism part of the problem is endocrine or is hormonal and they're on a range of hormone treatments their whole lives just to try to have a relatively normal life cope with their condition there are all kinds of people born with all kinds of conditions where they can't take for granted that diet and exercise alone will solve their problem it's just it's a ridiculous dogmatic mentality but that was precisely her mentality was familiar to me from critiques of madness you know her mentality was that she was entitled to good health the diet and exercise alone should guarantee this to her as her birthright and that there was a kind of conspiracy of dunces in the medical establishment that the doctors didn't care about her that they weren't really trying to help her or even that the doctors were trying to keep her down by giving her this medicine this medicine that had prevented her discovery of or her earlier subscribing to this diet that would have solved other problems and she kept clinging to this despite my counseling despite my kind of having interventions despite the fact that her acne got worse and worse as she adhered to the diet more and more tightly now what do I mean at the time that we made a relatively positive video about the diet and you can see in that video I'm just partly supporting her and we're talking about problems in the relationship talking about a number of issues when she first started the diet she was still eating oatmeal and believe it or not oatmeal is relatively high fat if the staple of your diet is oatmeal you're eating oatmeal all day in large quantities you're actually getting a good fed and at that point her acne was okay and she was working out of the gym and she had a relatively balanced that we done it okay what Nina and Rand has died instructs you to do is if you're not getting results commit to it even more and keep eliminating more and more normal food so she kept eliminating foods she kept doing more reading so the old meal had to be eliminated rice had to be eliminated fruit had to be eliminated sweet potatoes could no longer be baked now they could only be bul helped Oh I mean there was absolutely no fat in her diet at all she went from having a low-fat diet to an extremely low fat diet to a really zero fat diet and her acne got worse when there was less fat her diet and when there were little hiccups were she had a little bit more fat in her diet I noticed that her acne got better once just once I pointed that out to her and she screamed at me and got all emotionally upset at me you know over this and I said look I have I have proof I have evidence we have YouTube videos from these different periods of time and we had a few a few photographs it was really the YouTube videos so look show you this video show you this video you can see you know your skin your skin got worse and worse and worse and then it got better when you had a little bit more fat in your diet so again keep in mind we're a NAT were talking about here this is the difference between low fat and extremely low fat that's that's the frames like low fat an absolute zero fat we're not talking about switching to a high fat diet we're not talking about anything like that and you know a couple days later she she admitted see she she calmed down she great should yeah you know when you go back and like that but then this isn't the only Theory these books present you with she then start looking the fact that spikes and blood sugar can correspond to acne so this is a justification for eliminating rice white rice did seem to cause acne for eliminating fruit this diet became more and more extreme and by the way during this whole period of time sheet mentions in her video she says that I was loving and supportive for me I didn't care that she had acne at all I mean the actual appearance of her face got worse and worse I mean she can attest to this I was a very patient unloving boyfriend in that respect she had to travel everywhere with boiled beans and before was rice and beans before that it was oatmeal but she had these plastic portably I bought other containers she had these portable containers reusable containers of the snap-on lid so at first it was oatmeal later rice and beans then after that just beans and again at one point she had sweet potatoes then couldn't have roasted sweet potatoes anymore but she had to have precooked food that she carried with her everywhere including obviously to the airport but even a couple times who went out to a restaurant to see her parents and she had to bring food with her she had to she had to have a pressure cooker in the hotel room when we were in hotel rooms together to be able to boil things so she could eat something and maintain perfectly her commitment to this absolute zero fat diet so that that part of it believe it or not wasn't a problem for me as a boyfriend okay the problem was that my girlfriend was having a dogmatic anti-science view that she was extremely emotionally attached to and she was going through this kind of downward spiral of self justification because her acne was getting worse and worse her diet was getting more and more restrictive and she wanted so much to believe that she would be healed if only her she could be a hundred percent purified by this ridiculous diet all right and again starting reading it doesn't make sense it does not make sense okay if your problem was that acne for you is caused by almonds or peanuts then eliminating those things weather day if in your case you have acne because you were eating a ton of oily doughnuts that the grease levels of donuts are creating oil on your skin and then eliminating that as that if ever you grate I do not none of us have statistics maybe there is there some significant number of people statistically for whom that's there okay but let's say let's say hypothetically that you're a woman who has acne and the reason why is PCOS polycystic ovarian syndrome and within that there's a whole range of possibilities I talked to one woman directly she got acne and she ended up needing surgery multiple surgeries to remove cysts from her reproductive tract why because the acne was hormonal okay so the acne is a symptom it's a symptom of what it's a symptom of a hormonal problem and in did that case the hormonal problem is caused by a cyst that needs to remove by surgery there is absolutely no way that eating Nina and Rhonda's diet could solve that problem there's no way it's even gonna lead you to a diagnosis on the contrary what it's gonna lead you to do is avoid getting the diagnosis avoid even thinking through that possibility because you're gonna blame yourself for not at least this is my girlfriend's mentality you're gonna blame yourself for not being committed enough to a diet you're gonna go through the checklist you're gonna go through this ever more rigorous cycle saying oh well well Gianna no there's still some fat in the oatmeal let's eliminate oatmeal eliminate soy algae fruit causes sugar spikes they only allow you to have a tiny amount of fruit every day but if it's not working then you commit further by eliminating fruit altogether on and on and on it goes and the outcome is if you have hormonal acne because you have a hormonal problem the results can only be devastating and in my girlfriend's case it was psychologically devastating and emotionally devastating in addition to just meaning that for would have more than three months it's felt like six months I forget how many months this experiment on for for many many months she had absolutely horrible acne and it also of course negatively impacted things like job interviews impacted her status as a student in China impacted her whole life terribly I still loved her I still supported her the fact that her face her face was completely transformed but acne I mean you guys I think he'll never see photographs of her during the worst period of acne and and again and always from the very beginning she wanted to she wanted to take all of her medicine and throw it in the garbage that for her was the resolution her resolution to her mind was she had a period of her life before where she was misled by doctors and now that was over because she's found like the truth the religious gospel truth preached by Nina Aranda and backed up apparently by respectable vegan doctors who were quoted in this book I don't know if those guys really backed this diet and now all those drugs would go in the garbage and she was gonna start this new period of life being liberated and she was gonna start tracking her period and her menstrual cycle for herself and natural birth control and natural cure natural natural natural you can also die a natural death okay it's a fact it's this is medieval this is a mentality straight out of the Dark Ages and for me it's especially ironic that my girlfriend fell into this loop because she fell in love with me watching me criticize others for exactly this mentality on YouTube and then here I was like in our apartment face-to-face trying to talk her through this as gently as possible repeatedly again and again like no like you know even with the issue with the actual medication said no you have to keep the medication with you you have to keep the medication with you so that if this experiment fails you're going to go back on your medication alright this is a medication that worked for you for 10 years approximately so if you're gonna have an experiment of trying to treat your acne through diet and without this medication you have to be prepared for the possibility that the experiment will fail and if it fails yet you may get back on this medication you may also have to go back to the endocrinologist or go back to the dermatologists you may have to go back to seek medical help right because you're you are taking this experiment on at your own risk my girlfriend respond to this viciously this is not the only reason why we broke up this is not the only reason why my girlfriend has been abusive towards me during the last year or last two years it's not but my girlfriend respond to this by denouncing me insulting me screaming at me as if okay you know she took different tactics at different times we freaked out about this but she attacked me as if the problem was I didn't believe in her she attacked me as if the problem was that I only cared about my own pleasure and my own convenience like as if I wanted to go back in the birth control pill for that reason that I didn't appreciate her struggle against these horrible doctors in the medical establishment it was she didn't do this halfway okay it was all the way crazy and this didn't this didn't just happen once this resentment she had against me exhibited itself again and again and the last time the last time an exhibits up which was the breaking point for her I think because it was just so absurd the very last time she did this she was actually screaming at me screaming that the reason she had acne was me that I was the cause of her acne not the diet not the medication not quitting the medication not these other things so her emotional and mental state got worse and worse her diet got worse and worse and her skin got worse and worse partly because it's say at the beginning when her skin was okay she had more fat in her diet she had a more reasonable diet and during the brief periods during the experiment which were the fat her diet went back up again probably because having more fat let her hormonal system operate a little bit more I am knocking a list all the details I think it's quite likely my girlfriend will make more videos starting with the details but let me just say through this period of time the acne which we knew to be hormonal it wasn't like a mystery to determine is this hormonal acne or is it caused by an allergy to nuts or is it caused by oil in your day no we knew from day one this was hormonal acting during the period of this experiment the acne was not the only symptom of an underlying hormonal condition of an underlying endocrinology all correct me an underlying problem with her endocrine system something to do with the balance of hormones but she did have other symptoms and obviously during all the years that she was on the birth control pill those had been more or less suppressed she sent me a screenshot of somebody's comment on Facebook I thought about sharing it here but I'm just I'm just gonna paraphrase it it was a woman in a Facebook group discussing this who said of herself look a lot of you want to think this diet is gonna solve all your problems but the acne itself in many cases not all cases in many cases the acne itself is only a symptom of some other real underlying problem and she said that in her case she had acne she thought she could cure the acne she could just deal with a poem that's not the reality for her she ended up having surgery she had some kind of cyst or growth or cancer somewhere in a reproductive system and it could be related the ovaries it could be related the thyroid there are various stages and possibilities where something can be wrong that's knocking your hormones at a balance and if you think first eliminating soy and then eliminating oats and eliminating rice and eliminating fruit if you think that this elimination diet can bring you closer to the truth I got to tell you something it can also bring you closer to insanity
hard to give people good advice what's really hard is giving people the advice that they need to hear but that they don't want to hear I was in this position with my girlfriend as she began her strict adherence to Nina and Rhonda's clear skin diet as she continued to adhere to it as her own acne got worse and worse ultimately ending with her having tests done at a hospital and her having to confront the extent to which she had taken a scientific hypothesis and clung to it like a religious dogma until it became not just pseudo-scientific but anti-scientific she took some that could have been a positive healthy experiment with a new and different diet and she turned into something that ruined her life for several months and frankly tore our relationship apart so this is in part a narrative about a diet a diet book Nina and randa's diet it's in part a more personal narrative about my girlfriend's experience with the diet and you can hear more from her perspective on her youtube channel and it's in part an even more personal narrative of the effects that this had on our relationship which is to some extent philosophical here's what I mean at the beginning the middle and the end of my girlfriend's adherence to the Nina and Randa diet I insisted to her that what she was doing was an experiment and I reminded her again and again that an experiment by definition is something with an outcome that remains unknown I tried to prevent her from taking on the optimistic and yet fatalistic mentality that previously she had been given bad advice by doctors who wanted her to be a slave to medication and that now she was liberated by the advice this book I pointed out to her at the beginning the middle and the end that she had ended up replicating the attitudes that she'd seen me criticize on this YouTube channel in like 2015-2016 Eve whatever even 2017 the attitudes I'd criticized amongst the followers of freelee and durianrider whereby they first took on a sort of anti-establishment bias of blaming a conspiracy of doctors nurses and hospitals and then embraced a philosophy of using food as medicine i noticed early on that Melissa had become really emotionally committed to the notion that the medical establishment had let her down had led her down the wrong path that they had shown no concern for her well for her health and put her on drugs that from her perspective would prevent her from ever really having I guess reproductive autonomy or whatever would prevent her from having a having a baby because one large part of her treatment was getting on the birth control pill at an early age and remaining on the birth control pill partly for birth control it's one side effect that's one benefit but primarily because it it prevented the eruption and for her acne now I would try to balance this narrative but pointing out to her that she was on medicine that had serious side effects but also had serious benefits she had lived she'd had a great quality of life and had had clear skin and no acne from about age 14 to age 20 for ten years and while I do not deny that the birth control pill has negative side effects the positive effects and the motivations of the doctors have put her on the pill should not be dismissed and they shouldn't be dismissed because a fad diet book like you never and his diet book is promising you that if only you would hear to the strictures of their diet strictly enough it'll cure your acne now let's be clear Nina and Rhonda's diet the only efficacy it could have and curing your acne is if if there is something in your diet that's causing your acne for example if you are allergic to peanuts or if you have something like an allergic reaction to almonds and then eliminating peanuts and almonds from your diet eliminates your acne so many people will have that effect so in effect this is the same kind of outcome as an elimination diet and as you'll see in this video elimination diets can be disregarded destructive and it can be in their way pseudo-scientific and very misleading for people but if that was your problem if that was why you had acne then Ninan ratas diet would seem to work for you miraculously this is not the only reason why women get acne hormonal acne indicates that you have a hormonal problem and my girlfriend knew from day one of this experiment the nature of her acne was not dietary it was hormonal okay that's why taking the birth control pill solved the problem alright because this is a birth control pill suppresses your hormonal cycles it changes the balance of hormones in your body all month round of course especially with reference to the menstrual cycle um so she was on a hormone suppressing drug that alleviated her acne and she guarded dread that she would quit this drug she would quit all the medication she was on she would just embrace strict adherence to this diet and that that would cure acne now again as an experiment if you can do that experiment with detachment that's one thing but that's not what she did she didn't have the attachment she wanted to believe in this diet and I kept counseling her to have caution and attachment and scientific attitude and for to admit the imperfection on body and what I got back sorry what I say that the professional body what I mean is do not start from the assumption that you are entitled to good health by birth and that it is impossible that you need medicine to have good health because that was precisely her attitude during this period of time and I kept giving her counter examples like I said to at one point you know I had another girlfriend an ex-girlfriend who needed to be on the birth control pill to live she had a different completely different health problem the birth control pill solves a lot of hormonal problems wouldn't have but another girl from the completely different other problem she had to be on birth control I gave her the example of people with dwarfism a lot of people with dwarfism part of the problem is endocrine or is hormonal and they're on a range of hormone treatments their whole lives just to try to have a relatively normal life cope with their condition there are all kinds of people born with all kinds of conditions where they can't take for granted that diet and exercise alone will solve their problem it's just it's a ridiculous dogmatic mentality but that was precisely her mentality was familiar to me from critiques of madness you know her mentality was that she was entitled to good health the diet and exercise alone should guarantee this to her as her birthright and that there was a kind of conspiracy of dunces in the medical establishment that the doctors didn't care about her that they weren't really trying to help her or even that the doctors were trying to keep her down by giving her this medicine this medicine that had prevented her discovery of or her earlier subscribing to this diet that would have solved other problems and she kept clinging to this despite my counseling despite my kind of having interventions despite the fact that her acne got worse and worse as she adhered to the diet more and more tightly now what do I mean at the time that we made a relatively positive video about the diet and you can see in that video I'm just partly supporting her and we're talking about problems in the relationship talking about a number of issues when she first started the diet she was still eating oatmeal and believe it or not oatmeal is relatively high fat if the staple of your diet is oatmeal you're eating oatmeal all day in large quantities you're actually getting a good fed and at that point her acne was okay and she was working out of the gym and she had a relatively balanced that we done it okay what Nina and Rand has died instructs you to do is if you're not getting results commit to it even more and keep eliminating more and more normal food so she kept eliminating foods she kept doing more reading so the old meal had to be eliminated rice had to be eliminated fruit had to be eliminated sweet potatoes could no longer be baked now they could only be bul helped Oh I mean there was absolutely no fat in her diet at all she went from having a low-fat diet to an extremely low fat diet to a really zero fat diet and her acne got worse when there was less fat her diet and when there were little hiccups were she had a little bit more fat in her diet I noticed that her acne got better once just once I pointed that out to her and she screamed at me and got all emotionally upset at me you know over this and I said look I have I have proof I have evidence we have YouTube videos from these different periods of time and we had a few a few photographs it was really the YouTube videos so look show you this video show you this video you can see you know your skin your skin got worse and worse and worse and then it got better when you had a little bit more fat in your diet so again keep in mind we're a NAT were talking about here this is the difference between low fat and extremely low fat that's that's the frames like low fat an absolute zero fat we're not talking about switching to a high fat diet we're not talking about anything like that and you know a couple days later she she admitted see she she calmed down she great should yeah you know when you go back and like that but then this isn't the only Theory these books present you with she then start looking the fact that spikes and blood sugar can correspond to acne so this is a justification for eliminating rice white rice did seem to cause acne for eliminating fruit this diet became more and more extreme and by the way during this whole period of time sheet mentions in her video she says that I was loving and supportive for me I didn't care that she had acne at all I mean the actual appearance of her face got worse and worse I mean she can attest to this I was a very patient unloving boyfriend in that respect she had to travel everywhere with boiled beans and before was rice and beans before that it was oatmeal but she had these plastic portably I bought other containers she had these portable containers reusable containers of the snap-on lid so at first it was oatmeal later rice and beans then after that just beans and again at one point she had sweet potatoes then couldn't have roasted sweet potatoes anymore but she had to have precooked food that she carried with her everywhere including obviously to the airport but even a couple times who went out to a restaurant to see her parents and she had to bring food with her she had to she had to have a pressure cooker in the hotel room when we were in hotel rooms together to be able to boil things so she could eat something and maintain perfectly her commitment to this absolute zero fat diet so that that part of it believe it or not wasn't a problem for me as a boyfriend okay the problem was that my girlfriend was having a dogmatic anti-science view that she was extremely emotionally attached to and she was going through this kind of downward spiral of self justification because her acne was getting worse and worse her diet was getting more and more restrictive and she wanted so much to believe that she would be healed if only her she could be a hundred percent purified by this ridiculous diet all right and again starting reading it doesn't make sense it does not make sense okay if your problem was that acne for you is caused by almonds or peanuts then eliminating those things weather day if in your case you have acne because you were eating a ton of oily doughnuts that the grease levels of donuts are creating oil on your skin and then eliminating that as that if ever you grate I do not none of us have statistics maybe there is there some significant number of people statistically for whom that's there okay but let's say let's say hypothetically that you're a woman who has acne and the reason why is PCOS polycystic ovarian syndrome and within that there's a whole range of possibilities I talked to one woman directly she got acne and she ended up needing surgery multiple surgeries to remove cysts from her reproductive tract why because the acne was hormonal okay so the acne is a symptom it's a symptom of what it's a symptom of a hormonal problem and in did that case the hormonal problem is caused by a cyst that needs to remove by surgery there is absolutely no way that eating Nina and Rhonda's diet could solve that problem there's no way it's even gonna lead you to a diagnosis on the contrary what it's gonna lead you to do is avoid getting the diagnosis avoid even thinking through that possibility because you're gonna blame yourself for not at least this is my girlfriend's mentality you're gonna blame yourself for not being committed enough to a diet you're gonna go through the checklist you're gonna go through this ever more rigorous cycle saying oh well well Gianna no there's still some fat in the oatmeal let's eliminate oatmeal eliminate soy algae fruit causes sugar spikes they only allow you to have a tiny amount of fruit every day but if it's not working then you commit further by eliminating fruit altogether on and on and on it goes and the outcome is if you have hormonal acne because you have a hormonal problem the results can only be devastating and in my girlfriend's case it was psychologically devastating and emotionally devastating in addition to just meaning that for would have more than three months it's felt like six months I forget how many months this experiment on for for many many months she had absolutely horrible acne and it also of course negatively impacted things like job interviews impacted her status as a student in China impacted her whole life terribly I still loved her I still supported her the fact that her face her face was completely transformed but acne I mean you guys I think he'll never see photographs of her during the worst period of acne and and again and always from the very beginning she wanted to she wanted to take all of her medicine and throw it in the garbage that for her was the resolution her resolution to her mind was she had a period of her life before where she was misled by doctors and now that was over because she's found like the truth the religious gospel truth preached by Nina Aranda and backed up apparently by respectable vegan doctors who were quoted in this book I don't know if those guys really backed this diet and now all those drugs would go in the garbage and she was gonna start this new period of life being liberated and she was gonna start tracking her period and her menstrual cycle for herself and natural birth control and natural cure natural natural natural you can also die a natural death okay it's a fact it's this is medieval this is a mentality straight out of the Dark Ages and for me it's especially ironic that my girlfriend fell into this loop because she fell in love with me watching me criticize others for exactly this mentality on YouTube and then here I was like in our apartment face-to-face trying to talk her through this as gently as possible repeatedly again and again like no like you know even with the issue with the actual medication said no you have to keep the medication with you you have to keep the medication with you so that if this experiment fails you're going to go back on your medication alright this is a medication that worked for you for 10 years approximately so if you're gonna have an experiment of trying to treat your acne through diet and without this medication you have to be prepared for the possibility that the experiment will fail and if it fails yet you may get back on this medication you may also have to go back to the endocrinologist or go back to the dermatologists you may have to go back to seek medical help right because you're you are taking this experiment on at your own risk my girlfriend respond to this viciously this is not the only reason why we broke up this is not the only reason why my girlfriend has been abusive towards me during the last year or last two years it's not but my girlfriend respond to this by denouncing me insulting me screaming at me as if okay you know she took different tactics at different times we freaked out about this but she attacked me as if the problem was I didn't believe in her she attacked me as if the problem was that I only cared about my own pleasure and my own convenience like as if I wanted to go back in the birth control pill for that reason that I didn't appreciate her struggle against these horrible doctors in the medical establishment it was she didn't do this halfway okay it was all the way crazy and this didn't this didn't just happen once this resentment she had against me exhibited itself again and again and the last time the last time an exhibits up which was the breaking point for her I think because it was just so absurd the very last time she did this she was actually screaming at me screaming that the reason she had acne was me that I was the cause of her acne not the diet not the medication not quitting the medication not these other things so her emotional and mental state got worse and worse her diet got worse and worse and her skin got worse and worse partly because it's say at the beginning when her skin was okay she had more fat in her diet she had a more reasonable diet and during the brief periods during the experiment which were the fat her diet went back up again probably because having more fat let her hormonal system operate a little bit more I am knocking a list all the details I think it's quite likely my girlfriend will make more videos starting with the details but let me just say through this period of time the acne which we knew to be hormonal it wasn't like a mystery to determine is this hormonal acne or is it caused by an allergy to nuts or is it caused by oil in your day no we knew from day one this was hormonal acting during the period of this experiment the acne was not the only symptom of an underlying hormonal condition of an underlying endocrinology all correct me an underlying problem with her endocrine system something to do with the balance of hormones but she did have other symptoms and obviously during all the years that she was on the birth control pill those had been more or less suppressed she sent me a screenshot of somebody's comment on Facebook I thought about sharing it here but I'm just I'm just gonna paraphrase it it was a woman in a Facebook group discussing this who said of herself look a lot of you want to think this diet is gonna solve all your problems but the acne itself in many cases not all cases in many cases the acne itself is only a symptom of some other real underlying problem and she said that in her case she had acne she thought she could cure the acne she could just deal with a poem that's not the reality for her she ended up having surgery she had some kind of cyst or growth or cancer somewhere in a reproductive system and it could be related the ovaries it could be related the thyroid there are various stages and possibilities where something can be wrong that's knocking your hormones at a balance and if you think first eliminating soy and then eliminating oats and eliminating rice and eliminating fruit if you think that this elimination diet can bring you closer to the truth I got to tell you something it can also bring you closer to insanity