ACTUALLY INNOCENT: Durianrider vs. Norvegan.

15 February 2019 [link youtube]


Here's the link to the youtube channel simply called "Truth": https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbYraNxD_AYyHQVJYSFzEJw/videos

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gonna be fully transparent Michael comes
across and says that he's got nothing to hide he wants to be fully transparent in this particular email probably one of the most important pieces of evidence if you want to use that word or proof or of communication between them so just a bit of context this particular email was written by likes it was written by hammer to Harley so Helen initiated this particular email to Harley and this email was dated you can see the date stamp it was in the first few weeks of November so if you go to going according to the timeline this happened possibly in two or three weeks there are somewhere around there after the alleged rape happened so this was in the period that Michael refers to as the quote/unquote blackmail period while Hayley was blackmailing her so she couldn't even tell them what had really happened so I just like the viewer to asked himself a simple question put yourself in Hannah's position she's allegedly been raped by Harley she's been molested she's been choked and then she's been blackmailed by Harley and just look at what word she uses and the way that she uses the words so we've got a big thank you all in capital letters followed by an exclamation mark just watch the video and really appreciate it will do more cleavage in the thumbnails so just ask yourself put yourself in my position like I say she's allegedly been raped choked blackmailed is this the type of wording and the type of tone in capital letters with exclamation mark thank you and then really appreciating it and then talking about putting more cleavage you know future videos to me this doesn't strike me as the wording that someone who's been raped and blackmailed would be using and even more importantly and more suspicious is why my has intentionally left out the email when he goes through the following video of Holly's go through the last video he made about Hannah at this time so he had emails so he had emails so he had emails so yes Michael he did have emails but you intentionally left out the most important email so why did you leave out the email is the question so you got nothing to hide and this is just a couple of days after this is just a couple of days after she alleges that I prayed on her or whatever she's alleging why would you tag your attacker on your breast she also sent this Facebook message after Hannah's video so here's fairly telling Hannah that her video was seriously unnecessary and that it wasn't a hundred percent accurate like there weren't any vibes or Hannah didn't find him attractive and then suddenly he asks about this like it's a completely normal reaction to be like what do you mean because there was nothing there yeah it was very uncomfortable so I was on the ground in Chiang Mai wow this was going on and the days around that period of time leading up to it they were very flirtatious around each other now I was in Chiang Mai for a total of us 7 months between late August to mid March of this year and in that time I hung out with them on multiple occasions for often an hour or more don't remember it precisely but it either Hanna was leaving or had just gotten back and Michelle from fruit for Jam I think a channel name is who is also living in that apartment building made a joke about Hanna getting a bike pump from Harley pump and funny thing is it turned out to actually be true anyway so I was on the ground in Chiang Mai while this was going on and the days around that period of time leading up to it there were very flirtatious around each other and I had known from another source that told me that Harley and Frehley had taken a break in the relationship so I thought something was gonna go on between the two of them what she did of course well Harley and and they were sitting across from each other and say one this is after they had their little interaction and it was laughing hardly to say something I don't don't really stain but and Hannah be laughing her ass that's not the behavior of somebody who's been sexually assaulted or receiving unwanted advances in this video I'm asking you a simple question but it's a question that would really have far-reaching deep implications for you if you took it seriously if you took a dart what if durianrider actually is innocent what does that say about you what does that say about us what are the lessons we are going to learn from the recent history of this so-called vegan movement because the same movement that did this to him did it to me do you think it's hard for me to sympathize with the position he's been put into do you think I don't know what it's like to have thousands of people judging you guilty of a crime without even spending five minutes to give the most cursory of consideration to the evidence I know exactly what it's like because irony of ironies when the false allegations were made against me they were made by durianrider himself when I say that during a minor is actually innocent I don't mean he's innocent of the charges I accused him of I took him to court for defamation because he defamed me he damaged my life terrible unforgiveable ways with long term consequence of me he is what it is but you know there's something most of us learned way back in grade two two wrongs do not make a right I wouldn't now try to take revenge against him by doing the same thing to him that he did to me I would not now try to jump on the bandwagon with a set of allegations that I know to be false all you guys have to look in the mirror I know there's only so many thousand of you but what do you think how many thousand people does it take to save the world that's what we were talking about right that's why you all got drawn like moths to the flame to freelee and durianrider and even my channel for what it used to be right it was this promise save the planet save the animals save thousands of people from dying of heart attacks and cancer that could be avoided there was this good and pure and pressing moral cause that was partly about ecology and partly about ethics and partly about health and yeah sure partly about losing weight and looking great and going to the beach that should have been a footnote to the movement and it became our headline but whatever I mean it's all there it's all good there's all the potential for us to try to become better people ourselves try to make the world a better place there's so much good there and yet you seen people you same few thousand people instead of turning into a dynamic influential political movement what did you turn into you turned into a sub-genre of YouTube drama videos you turn into a crowd that just cheers for blood that doesn't care doesn't care about the difference between truth and fiction the difference between justice and injustice and yet like more than half of you think you're you're part of a social justice movement all right guys the link to this YouTube channel simply called truth is below this video I hope you really think about it there was a time when I had to come on camera and explain my own innocence against totally unreasonable allegations from Darren Ryder and now I'm in the opposite position of asking you look if you can do this to me you the audience and then you can turn around to do with the durianrider who's next you think you're too good you think anyone is above reproach being tarred and condemned with this same brush do you think the audience is going to be any more skeptical the next time it happens durianrider needs to be held accountable that's why I took him to court he did terrible things okay there are a lot of people in this audience right now who need to reflect you need to hold themselves accountable nobody else will [Music]