Vegan Gains Explains Why We're "Enemies".

05 June 2022 [link youtube]


@The 2 AM Vegan @Vegan Gains #vegans #veganism #vegangains

If you'd like to hear what Richard has to say in context, without my editing, here's the link to the source on "The 2 AM Vegan": https://youtu.be/CVIOiBlxFAA?t=141

And, yeah, if you want to know the REAL REASON why Richard cut off all communication with me (according TO HIM… AT THE TIME)… you won't be surprised to find that it's quite a bit more embarrassing than the explanation he's now offering… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ongv1I5A8_M


Youtube Automatic Transcription

hello mr mc fund agains just wondering what your beef is with a basil emcee funda seal why you've never had debates with him or anything um [Music] i don't know exactly where the beef i have without a seal started but um where we really uh got on a bad you know footing um is when he was lying about me in possession of having firearms he was partly responsible for getting me doxxed and having the police break down my door uh we weren't on good terms then but that's when we really became enemies what richard is half remembering half hallucinating about here is a video you can still find on my channel titled quote i reported vegan gains to the police close quote and if you just read the first sentence of the description below the video it says i received an email from the person who reported vegan gains to the police i received an email from someone who is ostensibly if not actually the person who turned vegan gains into the cops and who made richard's life miserable for a couple of years there so i received this email a couple of years ago and everything about this email i'm gonna read it to you is believable not everyone is cursed with an accurate memory for these things within my own family and within the strange cloud of colleagues and ex-girlfriends i have most of the people who've known me for many years are really astonished that i can remember things they said to me five years ago 10 years ago even 30 and 40 years ago with remarkable accuracy if you have that kind of memory for conversations you've had for personal interactions in your life it is a bit of a curse you have to make an extra effort to really be warm and forgiving and understanding towards people because you remember exactly what they said it may just be that richard can't remember what happened three four years ago or going back more like six seven years ago but it may also be this situation in which he remembers the title of that video or his wife has only seen the title of the video and never clicked on the video maybe his wife made up a story in her own mind or she's been pestering him and he now remembers the story she keeps telling which is this claim that i was somehow involved with calling the police or doxing him but the opposite is true that video was recorded after he had had this encounter with the police i knew nothing about it in advance i wasn't involved in any way i just received an email from someone who claimed they were involved i have no way to verify that claim and i made a video discussing some of the ethical and philosophical implications of the situation i didn't have a lot of hope that richard would would get better i mean i i haven't feel bad i had no hope um richard would improve um maybe i mean i was going to say that's another reason not to bother criticizing him when you really just feel there's no chance this person is going to improve in any way then what's the point you know ultimately the main thing i felt for richard was was pity um and you know then after a certain point in terms of people have asked me sincerely enough why did you guys stop being friends and i think the truth is richard really can't stand talking to anyone who challenges his opinion of himself and you know he really thinks he's a genius he really thinks he's someone with extraordinarily high intelligence the same way that back when he was an ice hockey player he thought he had superhuman strength you guys may have heard him describing that you know on his own channel um you know and he blames everyone else for his failures and shortcomings except himself he doesn't take responsibility for anything he is not interested in growing up he's not interested in improving he's not even interested in improving as a filmmaker so yeah i mean i i can't say that the criticism of him was ever lacking on this channel um i remember very clearly putting up a criticism that had clips of that video that video he can't remember he just can't remember what's in it that um that youtube flagged him for well i i remember i just had to appear in court um the stupid thing with the police and them trying to ban me from owning any weapons that's still going on um problem is i'm still waiting for the psychiatric assessment from the uh psychiatrist so that's the video i put up clips of where i was directly warning him i was directly speaking to richard in the audience and saying look this is you he was unloading bags and boxes of weapons on camera and making unsavory remarks while he did it you know what are you trying to do do you want do you want to be do you want to be a leader in the vegan movement do you want to be a comedian do you want to be a filmmaker do you want to be a bodybuilding coach you know i don't care you can be anything you can go of course one of the first conversations i had with him was you can go back to school and get a degree in nutrition or something nutritional science you could go back and get these credentials in canada it's pretty straightforward and it's pretty affordable it's much easier than the united states america or some other countries and he didn't want any of that he wanted to do whatever he wanted to do whenever he wanted to do it and he did not want to listen to anyone else's opinion anyone who would have contrasted about anything and you guys already know the reason the reason he said to me why he cut off all friendship and contact with me was because of what i said against racism and you know richard's canadian richard comes from toronto canada he grew up in the shadow of genocide the same history of the british empire and genocide that i grew up in i have a lot of videos on this channel talking about cree ojibwe mohawk indigenous languages the importance of that in understanding current politics of canada and history canada i don't know to what extent it's that element of racism and anti-racism and i don't know to what extent it's just his personal connection to certain far right-wing figures like cory mccarthy and tara mccarthy i don't know and i don't care america was founded by whites little things of like you know people you know claiming that oh well then what are you doing in america because you know that wasn't your homeland et cetera we came we have the ability the better man wins that's how it works and you know it's supposed to have evolution exactly whereas in africa it's literally like the most violent man gets the most women you know in these kind of situations um so they just have not evolved in the same way that we have corey mccarthy is a white supremacist in the strictest sense of the term he and his girlfriend are both white supremacists they are pro-genocide pro-empire pro-slavery when it's white people doing the enslaving and for some reason not when it's the other way around they are the worst kind of racists and apologists for the worst tendencies within 21st century fascism guess what there are some well-intentioned black people like richard known as vegan gains who are apologists for his channel if the native population of a territory we went into uh was capable of defeating us we would have been defeated we would have left you know it wouldn't have worked out very well but you know the only reason we were able to do it is because why why why we could [ __ ] please and even to this day you find a lot of like medical research and uh is being conducted also in america and australia and why would that be think about that because the r1b haplogroup then was sent over to those two places they're colonies just look at every single civilized country in the world um aside from the east asians which are kind of like a separate issue that we could talk about another time i don't really need to go into it um they're all colonized by white people you know you were i know you can't help being born under in a specific country with a specific you know a specific race or a specific iq or whatever you know but the thing is like let's say you're born with an 85 iq just like somebody who's born with a two-inch dick just like somebody who's born with a two-inch dick that's like i'm sorry you got the shin of the stick i mean what you can't really do anything about it but you know you know blacks get on wipes for slavery they want reparations for it when in fact blacks were selling their own kind into slavery to whites and to the middle east oh the only reason that we could conquer them was because they were such peaceful people no a lot of them were cannibals a lot of them were doing human sacrifices scabbing people's hair off scale you know they were committing genociding in their own little groups um these these weren't just a savage people you know and that's what they called routinely savages and that's what they were when we turned up cory is not a supremacist [ __ ] please hey can't you just tell me what's for breakfast there are some well-intentioned black people like richard known as vegan gaines who are apologists for his channel do you know what the knock-on effects of that are idiots idiots like ask yourself aka isaac brown isaac a nice little white boy from southern ontario he's probably met three black people in his whole [ __ ] life says oh well it's okay if he goes ahead and makes excuses for a white supremacist because vegan gains is doing it that really is the problem with black people who try to be nice who try to make excuses for white people who make excuses for genocide colonialism slavery racism and white supremacism that's what happens okay my principle here is don't make excuses for people who make excuses um he's an idiot he's a really dumb guy i'd like to debate him jasmine doesn't want me to though because again he uh he's partly to blame for the doxing richard if you're listening to this remember when i interviewed you more than five years ago you told me that your house had been searched you told me that you had legal trouble with the police and i was astonished that's when i first heard about your trouble with the police was when you told me during that interview so richard if you can remember you can remember how surprised i was and how i reacted when we had that conversation and then you can also remember the gap chronologically between when that happened and when you're claiming i somehow called the cops semo had your house searched started this saga with your gun possession problems or somehow doxed you chronologically what you're saying richard it doesn't make sense ostensibly this is an account from the perspective of the person who made the decision to report richard to the toronto police department that led to a series of investigations and charges that led to richard having to attend several court dates at the time i received this message years ago it's not that i took it any less seriously than i do today however the question in my mind was to what extent when we see richard on camera are we seeing an actor in a comedy playing a fictional character and to what extent are we seeing the real man it becomes clear i think everyone who's known the guy even if you've just known him via facebook and and what have you i think it becomes clear to everyone that it's not an act that it's not a joke and my charitable assumption that he was a fictional character in a kind of long-running series of jokes of his own devising is uh is not true at all you know i i had a bunch of people react very positively to a simple and blunt statement i made on twitter to paraphrase i said the other day the current content from vegan gains has zero educational value and zero entertainment value if i wanted to hear someone sit there and call somebody a dumb [ __ ] and a dumb [ __ ] if that was the level of analysis i was interested in i would watch cnn when i first talked about richard on this channel i don't know how many years ago years ago when i first talked about richard on youtube i did assume that a lot of his violent act was a joke like when he talked about wanting to kill children and then babies when he made these kinds of really i assumed was real and now i know it's not a joke i have a daughter i have sent richard's photographs you know again i don't know a year ago whatever it was you know not recently um i've sent him photographs of me with my daughter me visiting me on vacation visiting my daughter right the way i do with friends i send friends photos of me and my daughter and you know what he writes back um absolutely confirms that no what what he's been saying about himself is not a joke it's literally true he has behaviors and beliefs and violent attitudes towards children towards people that you know that could get you put into lunatic asylum and that could certainly get you investigated by the toronto police department who comes on youtube to talk about politics and philosophy this way people who don't have a better alternative and that's the other thing with i mean it's true of vegan gains it's true if you're looking at someone like jake paul like jake paul and these other youtubers like look i look at these these crappy mainstream youtube religious policy look when you first started if this was the only content you could do is filming yourself doing a spontaneous dumb prank and screaming into the camera and this this kind of these kinds of antics fine but now you have an audience of millions you have a lot of income coming in you've got to progress you've got to step it up with vegan gains it's it's more unforgivable because this guy at this point highly successful earning a living earning a significant living from this and he is not putting in the effort to progress beyond a level a level that would be shameful even for like the amazing atheist or jacqueline glenn and these other crap you know you do not put that much that much effort you know into youtube you know vegan gains is is in a he's in a real position of power if anything he's the new free league he's in the position was in and yeah you know what it's exactly parallel i didn't even think of that the guy who said to me today that he feels ashamed to use the word vegan and he wishes he wasn't in the same category of veganism that's like coming full circle to about four years ago where people said that about freely and people said that about durianrider because they were dragging the name of a vegas into the mud um [Music] i don't know exactly where the beef i have without a best lucille started but he was partly responsible for getting me doxxed and having the police break down my door we weren't on good terms then but that's when we really became enemies so now you've heard richard's account of how from his perspective we became enemies but from my perspective we never became enemies at all i'm someone who criticized him and that critique with time started to resemble absolute condemnation why what changed the very thing being criticized changed and became worse and worse and so too my condemnation of it became harsher and harsher and i with everyone else learned gradually who richard really was and so my criticism of him as a person also became more and more a condemnation of his character there is no happy ending to this video people talent is scarce and uh you know if you want to see somebody do better take a look in the mirror because the future of veganism is you and you and you and if you want better youtube content that i've been able to produce in my five years of playing this game the alternative it's not richard it's not complaining about richard the alternative is you and you and you