If I were to start my own Vegan organization, what would it be?

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you know what a personal we didn't group with me like I know you've mentioned on more than one occasion starting something in Canada right like what would you like what would you have in mind exactly i mean the problem i guess geographically right away we have an issue there like i know you really enjoy market mod vegan like i know you get very high later well you know in calgary so like I first would I guess i could earn right like well how would you like what are you winning a picture good boy it's a few years in the future but you me and mod vegan could be the founding members because i think really big part of the common ground that me and not vegan have and then i think it's also going around you and i have is the interest in the education system in school boards in logging school boards and you can kind of do the same work like so-called public education and outreach i think a lot of that is going to be the same work that goes into trying to educate schools is trying to influence the school system itself so i think educational policy and it's also really positive for fundraising like I already have this experience now I did this children's book and you know I can do more I can do more show those books I can do a whole series can be like Curious George we can have a to placing blocks secrets you know all indirectly vegan propaganda for children but that's something really positive to do fundraising for and I'll say this I would not feel ithaca doing fundraising saying hey donate money to us we're gonna go like throw rocks at the park warden because he shoots deer and that's the kind of [ __ ] that goes on in can people who are so hysterical about the deer call that they want to go and like fight the cops who are killing deer you like there's an emotional level on which it can relate blah blah blah but every [ __ ] day my boss at work wears leather shoes and as a leather purse so who's gonna who will be the first to throw stones you know it's such [ __ ] to me but on the financial level and the accountability to your donors I would feel totally positive asking for donations and taking your money and spending it when I can say to you this year we published this book this year you know we published this pamphlet and we went to this let's say in this year we went to six Board of Education meetings where we presented this case and I feel what you build a case on is basically saying look you must exclude propaganda from the meat and dairy industry for the same reasons you must exclude the cigarette industry like it's not acceptable to teach children that eggs are healthy and they should eat an egg every day because the the egg board is donating money for the same reasons that it's not acceptable for the cigarette supporter that's just negative like you know we're not trying to force you to pro vegan propaganda we just want to limit i think i just say i would feel totally comfortable and confident asking your grandmother to donate money you know what I mean any person for that cause and I can show you that we did it i can show you the outcomes whether it's again publishing the children's storybooks or just hey we went to the meeting we went to the board meeting and this is what we present to the school board and you go to a lot there's no equal a lot of school board meetings in a year you know to make that case so I think in Canada I think that education is really the the positive thing I can see building on in the next ten years I have a kid so I have a bias that way mod vegan has I think two kids you know so that's also i mean people are people are into that long term and i think that gives you a mission and mandate where you're also maybe you know you kind of discipline your group where you say look this is not about you know this is not about throwing stones at the slaughterhouse you know i mean it everyone involved it's clear as soon as you sign up this is what we're doing this is the kind of professionalism this is the sort of long-term you know vision see ya within canada that's that's what I do yeah I mean obviously I I like that that's what I wanted to do any way through we're gone the Board of Education so I'm on board with that I guess like just like even you talking about funding no I'm just thinking about my own City here in Ontario like anything you any vegan ever heard donates to it's just the local farm sanctuary you know in this lake okay yes that's not bad but what's this really accomplishing rate is like is this really the best thing you can be putting their dollars towards and I find like even like I don't know like the extent of the activism that the animal rights groups not affiliated with the university does is just going to the local water house and holding a vigil for the chickens you know so that the chickens can feel some love before before they die for the first time in their life and you know not to be not to get poetics but I think honestly like if the chickens are feeling anything from you I think the only thing the chickens are feeling towards you i guess i should say is hatred you know like I don't think those chickens look at you and are feeling the love like I just frustrating to me that this is all I think I don't want to take away from these people's experiences there I realize this is an emotional subject again it's sensitive subjects but I just surely we can be doing something better a lot of that stuff is dead ended but it does have an emotional purpose of the people involved and I don't want to like piss on that emotional purpose like you know I think there's a question to what extent is our activism for vegans to make us feel better about ourselves to build up our self-esteem as vegans and I don't mean that as an insult like I think there's a sense in which somebody can be really timorous and go to a pig save and then leave that takes a feeling you know what veganism is really important in my life I have a sense of moral purpose it can build your self-esteem as a vegan and I'm not joking you know what I mean we're because you've attended a vigil at a pig pig slaughter house order chicken slaughterhouse where you know you have that emotional connection with the other vegans there with witnessing to certain animals would that motivate you okay but that's ultimately didn't that's that's something that's vegans doing something to make vegans feel better you know and the example of the the educational materials whether it's my story book or you know lobbying the board of ed or trying to influence government policy that stuff that's not for us that's really for the future that's for the future the moment that's for the people who are not vegan yet that's exactly what it's for right I mean that's the influence the people who are pre vegan or you know we've never heard of it so no I think you know there's something to be said for both but again if it's my time and my money and I'm asking you for your money that's where I would take it yeah where I really believe in having outcomes real-world outcomes yes