Why are ESL teachers so despised? (& Tkyosam)

okay so a topic that kind of came up
here well live-streaming is basically why do people meaning people in the Western world regard English teachers in Asia so negatively like why is this judge that stereotype about English teachers in Asia so negative now you are an English teacher in Asia as of yesterday you just quit well you just finished your job and that work no we're leaving China but like another guy for example the Russian guy who's basically replacing you at your job you're not such bad people you're not such sure you know I mean as I share with people the other English teachers who also would be going that the the woman from Belarus from Eastern Europe I don't I must not have the countess oh really it's really negative there are a lot of YouTube channels that kind of like what I was even when we saw that video from cheeky Oh Sam that was what he was kind of reacting to was people having these really really negative views yeah of you know the kind of stereotype white man chooses to I was going to teach English they were very positive about it okay they had a lot of examples of other people who had done the same thing and they thought it was a good experience for them that's really interesting for me to hear because I've never had reactions like that that's really interesting it's becoming maybe it's because I'm from nowhere but is it because the other people also had like been through a degree in English literature maybe is it maybe an educational background thing or what perhaps I mean maybe they think it's one of the few things that I could do yeah well no like when I suggested it to another female vegan who is connected to YouTube like that she take over my job when I leave part of her answer was that she just felt it was like beneath her that it was like too low for her to be to be a university level professor in English that's what I do the all over that's what it's again we just we just finished the job we're leaving town today what do you when the airport lounge right now in case you hadn't guess yeah you know I'm looking somewhat in some ways I can relate to that but sometimes I can't it's like why do you think this is such a low and despicable line of work especially about teaching university students in a university classroom on a university campus like why is that boys that's a bad so what I was thinking I was just I was just like spontaneously answering some comments here but I think part of it is just the discomfort in Western culture and discomfort generally was lack of familiarity generally with people who take on a job any job for reasons other than money like when a job is about money everyone understands us like your dad works in the steel business it's not cuz you love steel you know man just the smell of that steel in the more that you know no it's not because he's trying to make the world a better place it's it's about money and you know most of what you know most lines of work aside from the fine arts or something that's what everyone's used to but I think you know we should admit straight-up I mean I said this yesterday I think we're talking to one of the other professors I said like why is this the only type of teaching where the majority of teachers are male not female yeah every other category when people are not motivated by money yes sometimes they're motivated by sex sure a lot there are a lot of men out here at all ages but like I don't know 25 to 65 because some of them are old man some of them are older men out here teaching teaching motion china are teaching motion East Asia generally and sex is their main motive for it's one of the motivations so maybe gender had something to do with how I was regarded people that I was going to become an English teacher in China yeah I could see that when they mentioned other positive examples were they mentioning women or they mentioning men there were men that found wives so there you go so that is probably the stereotype somewhere in Asia right South Korea and I think gee mr. Chae probably is a loser loser who can't get laid in America goes to Japan and can get laid in Japan and that changes lives that's a huge factor you know guys who weren't considered tall or manly in America go to go to for example Taiwan and now in Taiwan they're considered relatively tall and manly or somewhere like Laos or something you know like in Laos it's a big deal they can grow a beard you know like yeah sorry that was true in Laos as we were talking about with Canada Japan like people yeah sure the exotic yeah the almond is up right what but what I want to point out is sex is not the only motive when you get away from money another motive is education like for exam you want to learn Chinese or you want to learn Japanese or you're working on a master's degree or like you're doing research like in terms of your own education those are major reasons to do this major motivations to do this and you know they do sense the only ones that count - they're rewarding reasons to do it right yeah I mean you know beyond that there are some other motives things from one is like a scape ism yes I me know there are people who don't want to deal with their life back in San Francisco they don't want to deal with their life back in I don't know Sydney Australia so it's it is a way of running away so it would definitely mean first and foremost way we run away from your own family like a lot of people come from close-knit families and they don't really want to put up with from their brother their brother and their cousin anymore let alone their parents maybe their parents trying to control their lives so if you get on that airplane and sign that contract to go to China Korea Japan maybe for the first time in your life you really have some distance from an overbearing extended family but that's legit that's not a bad reason to take this job there's a reason to work on an oil well mister reason I remember when I was a kid my dad said that was a reason why guys became long-distance truckers you know he said a lotta men don't want to have a boss and don't want to see their parents and maybe don't even want to see their wives that often you know like they want they want to be alone so I don't know compared to being a long-haul trucker items better worse maybe that job anyway but being a long-haul trucker is about is about money for sure I mean nobody's doing it for four reasons other than money so that's not such a great comparison well yet distance escapism those things those are those are definitely factors yeah anything else why else would someone did this job I guess I guess the Chernobyl funk show I guess the lifestyle yeah depends on where you're from right yeah I know a couple people that I went to college with that have become English teachers and I in Asia I think it's generally because of what they studied find a job so just as a way of getting out of a dead-end university right yeah well we will see because again the basic premise here is that the money is not worth it which I really believe I'm really being sincere when I say that but no matter how pathetic your BA is you can literally earn more money working at Starbucks in America then teaching English and China even the highest level yeah and the exceptions to that are where you run around you know you start your own business and buy your own motorcycle and go from gig to gig all day you know you know but sure it as a general rule you're gonna be less earning less here than you earn working full-time so yeah I don't know I mean you got you got someone thinking I think she I she cried she was kind of motive thank you for teaching her kid right I taught university age dude so my students are 2021 but she taught children so you know that's a VIP well you work at Starbucks you're never gonna get that kind of positive you know nobody's gonna appreciate you that way Cheers so yeah it's interesting but I mean definitely I feel like with in Chinese culture this attention because traditionally people had so much respect for the teacher being a teacher was a highly esteemed station you know in life and now you know this is this kind of slightly despised demi-monde of these weird foreigners who come over here and fill this gap in the society and the economy gap in the education system and who are mostly not respected who are mostly despised you said that your fellow professors and maybe other people that knew the university professors word kind of surprised by how much how respectful you were I said that they probably had a bad experience with the former English teachers yes that's right yeah and they kept saying they kept saying to me sincerely oh wow your Chinese is amazing my ability to speak Chinese and my Chinese handwriting who their mother like all your Chinese Anna is unbelievable and I was just thinking like how lower your standards like I'm a university professor in China I should be able to speak Chinese I should be able to read him write China you know what I mean yeah so yeah yeah and I show up wearing a suit and stuff you know yeah yes I don't know I know what they were what they were used to but I mean in general in the whole world that I know of maybe Germany's an exception like maybe a few places in Europe an exception but I think the concept of being an intellectual is really weak like globally and similarly what does it mean to be a man of letters what does it mean to be a man who cares about history and books and whatever sure whatever it is many you there are many ways to be intellectual like it does you know in my case is political but for some people it is gonna be like poetry or something but you know I think the dignity of being a teacher is gonna rest on or has to rest on you know the idea that being well my mom would call a knowledge worker she always uses that sir I never use it Azumi in yeah but being someone who cares about ideas and knowledge education if you don't have that kind of I don't know sub-basement set down the culture then what kind of respect you're gonna have for people across the ocean to educate your children or to educate grown adults and university under this banner and who knows what their motives are you got to ask them on a case-by-case basis but for sure their motivations are not money