Is Durianrider a Paranoid Schizophrenic? He says so. (Vegan / Vegans / Veganism)

13 April 2016 [link youtube]


Shout out to "Just Another Vegan", who is quoted in the video:

https://youtu.be/OV_T6dr4ljs


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what I'm questioning in this video is
not so much leadership as followership an anonymous person asks durianrider why does he say that mental illness is a choice this makes him sound grossly uneducated do you know anything about schizophrenia ? that is not a choice grow up durianrider replies that he was clinically diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia he then claims that he cured himself he refused all medication he had a mental health warrant out for his arrest he had to stay overnight in a mental lockdown for observation he closes by reflecting that everyone goes through these types of problems in life it's how we deal with it and choose to recover that matters no not everyone goes through stuff like this in life actually in every society a very small minority of people go through this type of experience and I don't say that with any glee in my voice I really don't have any hatred towards this man but the number of people who are considered legally insane who are declared legally incompetent and who are diagnosed with a very serious mental disorder like paranoid schizophrenia it's not everyone it's not the majority it's a very small minority of people and I've said it before and I'll say it again if this guy was my brother if durianrider was my younger brother I wouldn't criticize him at all I just say hey man I'm so happy you're off the drugs I'm so happy you're not homeless anymore I'm so happy you're you know apparently not committed to a mental asylum it's great that you got your life together and that would be that you know he wouldn't want to engage in a critique of someone who has this kind of background or who makes these kind of ridiculous claims the question is not really his leadership the question is his followership I am grateful for discovering durianrider he taught me about life more than I have learned in 15 years of studying and schools and in the university so if you want to do something you gotta [ __ ] do it's ok so it's not just that simple no no say I'm a [ __ ] drain by [ __ ] victim can and I don't want to take any responsibility pop pills from the mother [ __ ] quack and take control my thoughts take control of my diet taking shot them a daily exercise activity who are [ __ ] hang around with how I stand my posture what time I go to bed I don't take control their awesome yourself in Todd a little whining [ __ ] mother [ __ ] chance a no mother [ __ ] psycho a psychiatrist or whatever so I said pill pusher drug pusher ever really ever ever helped me ever because there's more money in keeping people ill than helping them help themselves cure themselves naturally why would anybody take this guy seriously why would you trust this guy with providing you with health advice or with being the leader of a political movement with doing the other ridiculous and dangerous things he does such as encouraging crowds of people to beat someone up he labels someone an enemy in the past he hasn't just made violent threats against people he's you know accused people being pedophiles currently he's accusing one guy of being a rapist and a sexual predator apparently on the basis of internet rumors well if you know that somebody was clinically diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic that's their that's their background as durianrider says himself this isn't an accusation i'm making this is how he describes himself why would you put him in that position of political leadership why would you trust him even with health and diet advice let alone with making those other contents thoughts on fluoride and vaccines ? you want to treat someone as a health expert who neither believes in vaccines nor in toothpaste fluoride toothpaste these are two of the most heavily researched topics in the history of Western science anonymous questioner asks how are all vaccines bad I don't get a flu shot or anything like that but some you need to get at some point or we'll be bringing back some terrible diseases close quote durianrider is not sure if this person is serious during writer says that's just as absurd as claiming that not supporting child porn means that those kids losing income yeah apart from being crazy apart from being actually insane durianrider is also stupid I'd encourage any of you to really think about just how stupid that statement is what's your opinion on vaccines if you had a baby would you vaccinate during writers answer is no and you'll notice if you read paragraph number one of durian writers reply here rolled into this or other completely insane internet-based conspiracy theories like NWO and chemtrails if you don't know what chemtrails if you don't know what that means don't look it up you don't want to google this this is one of the stupidest conspiracy theories going on the internet but if you ask why is durianrider so stupid and why are his followers so stupid well disproportionately these are the sort of people who are early adopters of veganism and they're the sort of people who do a lot of their learning from second-rate rumors on the internet never learned how to evaluate what's a reliable source of what's not who never learned how to become autodidact you know never learned the tough tricky work of looking at three different sources all of them biased and coming up with the basic facts quote I saw freely answer a question on her blog about a week ago referring to vaccines as poisoned and it was pretty shocked surely you guys don't believe that ? close call yeah well you might want to reconsider your opinion that these are smart people durianrider replies that in his opinion vaccines are supposedly toxic poisons that he'd never used them personally do your own homework and draw your own conclusions on the vaccine industry given that i've had ludicrous accusations have had people accuse me of secretly working for the CIA secretly working for monsanto you know that I'm secretly working for the meat and dairy industry or something and I've had a Fed accusations that I'm on steroids and trying to be a fitness guru of my own that I'm trying to steal them as foes you know given all the crazy accusations someone might think instead might make a more reasonable accusation that I'm insinuating that we should instead be looking to guys like this as political leader this guy is Steve best Steve best is a university professor with a PhD who have criticized my channel now I'm gonna I'm going to talk a little bit more about during right I'm going to present you with a few more quotations but who he is and what his views in the world are but I'm pausing here to digress to say that no there are no easy solutions with these problems of leadership and followership uh Steve best obviously here in this in this photo he's trying to look like a bit of a hoodlum but he's not he's a university professor he's got a PhD he probably spends most of his time you know writing report cards and grading boring essays I'm sure he lives a very conventional pro-establishment life in many ways um when you look at his writing you see a totally different set of reasons there are different concerns that would make you not want to have this guy as a political leader and that make him a bit out of touch out to lunch whatever want to say here's a quote this is not the worst paragraph from a very long essay he's written about Marxism and cultural Marxism but Joe God just to read this quote thus in the dialectic of enlightenment 1972 Adorno and Horkheimer argued that the powers of modern rationality science and technology championed by Enlightenment thinkers and marxists led to domination not liberation building on a 19th century critique of low culture extending marks and LU coaches analysis of commodity fetishism and developing gram cheese concept of culture as a form of hegemony Adorno and Horkheimer described how culture had become integrated into the economy and a new culture industry emerged an apparent oxymoron their notion of culture industry showed how capitalism had colonized culture and everyday life how the integrity and uniqueness of an artwork became obliterated in conditions of mass production how the intrinsic the culture of expression was reduced to the extrinsic value of profit and how culture weekend and pacified rather than stimulated and fortified the mind um I I did not go fishing for the the worst paragraph from the worst essay this guy's ever written and the young to say this isn't that bad but this really is the type of writing that academic Marxists do and there is a lot wrong with it already and there were a lot of hints here as to why this kind of guy also is not a very successful leader of the vegan movement now don't get me wrong he's been all around the world talking about veganism he's taught courses about veganism he's given lectures about veganism he has tried to present himself as a radical vegan activist and leader he's one of the few who openly endorses violence and criminal behavior but if you know a little bit about Marxism macademia you can see here in this paragraph I've picked all these other problems you know is meaningless you know is like shuffling a deck full of famous names can I mention Graham she and Adorno in the same paragraph a lot of I mean academic left-wing politics look like this academic anthropology a lot of stuff like this and you know the the process of someone you know living their lives engaged in this type of political discourse I feel can separate them from reality in a very different way from how people like during writer and freely are separated from reality but I put this up here as a digression to show there are other problems with other kinds of people however right now in 2016 the following that guys like Steve best has is pretty tiny compared to guys like during writer I think interesting note one of the reasons why Steve best is not more popular more influential is that people see the danger in what he's doing he talks about violence he talks about Marxism you know he's I would say he's a bit of a crypto communist well communists have killed millions of people Marxism as a philosophy is linked to violence and mass violence revolution and mass murder in various ways and people can see a problem in that and a lot of people want to keep their distance politically also by most countries you know the majority people are clustered around the center there neither left-wing nor right wing and there are a lot of reasons to feel uncomfortable with this so I understand there are kind of natural limits this guy's influence let's chef it's why art for those natural limits exercise themselves when you roll all this up with the promise of Ed unlimited calories and get thin quick with someone who openly says that he is legally insane question from up from a fan for during writer how could he be diagnosed with bipolar disorder and schizophrenia at the same time well during writer is no doubt that you can because he has been diagnosed with both anonymous question from a medical student who would be curious to know his complete diagnosis and indeed i have to say i'm preparing this video i had never before seen during writer directly identify himself as being a schizophrenic i had never seen that before i had only seen him more vaguely alluding to the fact that he had been homeless in a prison and that he had some mental disorder that prevented him from adopting children but now we've got schizophrenia and bipolar disorder and he claims he's diagnosed as an anorexic and he claims he was diagnosed with Crohn's disease and magically healed himself magically heal so he's magically healed quite a few incurable diseases if you believe him his bipolar disorder schizophrenia and psychosis were most likely directly linked to substance abuse this person suggests this medical student suggests you say you were a street drug addict I don't understand why a rational mind like yours would compare your drug-induced disorders to those of a kid born with schizophrenia be careful with generalization hardly you lose credibility by doing so have a nice day well you know life is strange you might think that someone who is diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder is in the best position to have an informed and attached opinion on this but precisely the fact that he is actually insane would impair his ability to have a detached and rational discussion about these issues like many other issues the guy preaches about durianrider replies thanks the reader for chiming in and then said here's the thing he had to see many psychiatrists due to a bus accident pay out a legal case durianrider psychiatrist said the issues were caused by the accident and his PSTD going crazy so I think that's a typo for post-traumatic stress disorder which would be PTSD there psychiatrists the ones who work she prevents a proper settlement proper payout said that he was most likely born with a condition yeah it is what it is I find it very hard to read some of the the things that Jerome rider comes out with on his tumblr and YouTube and things like that in in terms of eating disorders and that there are choice and you can get over it in your weight if you if you can't get over your eating disorder I find that incredibly incredibly ignorant and it's very arrogant as well I don't understand why more people don't talk about some of the things that he says and it shouldn't be taken lightly and it shouldn't be set taken or something that people can decide about it shouldn't be taken as someone someone's deciding to have depression someone's deciding to have anxiety someone's deciding to have a panic attack and for him to come out and say that mental illness is something that you can choose that you want what the [ __ ] is your problem like where do you where do you come off saying that someone who has an eating disorder is weak because they have an eating disorder actually really horrible he's speaking the truth but it's not the truth it's negative it's rude it's conniving and the Serena people wake up to his [ __ ] it's just like his attitude to people with mental illness is [ __ ] demeaning it is horrible it is really it is it is really uneducated this doesn't just have implications with Durham writer says about mental illness that thinks people who are schizophrenic can just make themselves not schizophrenic he thinks that people with crohn's disease can just make themselves not have Crohn's disease anymore yeah I wonder what his position is on soap oh he's asked here do you think people are born gay or is it a choice that make later on in life like everything mental he claims it is all a choice in the moment actions are based on decisions and sexual preference is a decision decisions are moment to moment and when we take action on them they create results so durianrider claims being gay is a choice and it's a choice that can change moment to moment uh that's the sort of thing some people believe it like age 13 even age 15 what anyone I mean regardless of your political persuasion anyone with some depth and breadth of life experience does not believe that I think anyone who spent real time around people diagnosed that serious mental disorders also could not could not share during writer's perspective but again durianrider is insane he has had the integrity to tell you openly to give you the clearest warning as to why you shouldn't trust him I shouldn't take this seriously it is what it is why would you care about this guy's opinion with anything I haven't we haven't we established enough room for doubt based on what several girls have written to me and told me in person I would classify this Jack guy as a sexual predator oh yeah well how would i classify you during writer how would i classify you x homeless ex-convict ex-drug addict diagnosed schizophrenic diagnosed with bipolar disorder and you're trying to start a fight with everybody and you are trying to create conflict you were actively inviting people you're saying he has said that he himself would punch out this guy jack how would i classify you during writer why why would anyone take this seriously maybe there's someone who could do with duran riders pretending to do here maybe there's someone who can investigate a bunch of complaints independently and come to conclusions better than the police could come to because that's what the writer is trying to do here right but if there's one person on earth who should never become a police officer it's during writer he is mentally incompetent and I don't even mean that as an insult if there's one person on earth who should never volunteer in an orphanage something he talks about who should never adopt a child who should never be you know responsible for babysitting or taking care of your kids if there's one person who should never be a police officer in a position of authority making decisions about life and death dealing with violence dealing with other drug addicts dealing with social problems it would be during runner if there's one person who should never be a medical doctor who should never be responsible for giving medical advice etc it's durianrider and yet this is exactly the role he is choosing for himself and it's the role that I don't know maybe a hundred thousand vegan idiots are all too happy or applauding they're eager to see him play they're eager to see him punch this guy in the face they're eager to see him look man I got fan mail recently from a guy in the Netherlands shout out to him I won't name him a guy in the other ones who was telling me honestly he was talking how much my channel meant to him how reassuring you found it to to watch my youtube channel and he said that he is vegan and in public he often just says that he's vegetarian to avoid dealing with negative backlash etc and he really talked about the way in which people like durianrider and vegan gains online made him feel ashamed to be vegan made him question identifying with it just publicly as a label made him question whether or not there was any political hope for the future for vegans getting anything done and ultimately made him consider quit quitting being vegan entirely because the prospect for the future of this movement it is the feature of this idea seemed to him so bleak after a period of like six months of exposure to what's going on in in veganism apparently what's visible up on the surface a very human letter I mean you know I appreciate hearing from the guy and you know he also talked about the way veganism and the limited chances at activism fit into his life which I talked about on this channel it's very real he's got a job you think he mentions both that he's got a job and he's going to classes of some kind i'm not sure what his educational situation is he's got kids he's got responsibilities you know veganism can play some role in his life and he can devote a certain number of hours to veganism but it's limited and i'm going to come back to the example i mentioned earlier Steve best the university professor some of these questions can also arise with a guy like that some of these questions people can say well look people can feel that they're losing faith in this movement having any future people can feel that the name of veganism is being discredited by people who are radical Marxists or radical anarchists or just academics just academic thus Casey's and academic more academic left wingers who frankly make veganism seem ridiculous even when they really are doing their best I mean you know I don't I don't want to you know insult i got to you even when they are doing their best from their perspective to propound and support and advanced veganism i wish i could end this on a positive note man but there there is nothing positive to say durianrider is formally diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic in reality the recent critiques have seen other youtubers posting about them they're not even appropriate you know unnatural vegan just made a video about antinatalism about having kids or not having kids the sense in which they're not appropriate is that they all presume to address durianrider thoughts feelings fantasies philosophy education they presume to address durianrider as sane he has been open with you about the fact that he is insane and if you're still following you're still taking him seriously it's on you