Unnatural Vegan is No Hero: Who Has Suffered Less?

I've talked a lot on this channel about
valid reasons to not be vegan even in developed countries how it can be hard if not impossible for some people to maintain a healthy vegan diet I've said it before and I'll say it again I have to ask my fellow vegans all the time compared to any other social movement in the history of the world who has suffered less yes rice and beans are very cheap but you have to take into account the time it takes to prepare them and even having the means to prepare them not everyone even has a kitchen it's easy to feel sorry for yourself it's easy to feel that your sorrow and your suffering and your heartbreak is the most important thing in the world that it blots everything else out but when you compare veganism to any other struggle for social change the emancipation of slaves the civil rights movements even struggles like trying to get you know cancer labeling on cigarettes trying to get seatbelts in every car Mothers Against Drunk Driving trying to change the culture of alcohol the laws surrounding alcohol consumption and I'm driving trying to save lives all of those social movements have involved suffering amel the people involved had some kind of spirit of self-sacrifice and public service that is utterly lacking in digital veganism today because being vegetarian accomplishes most of the good of being vegan and is substantially easier than being vegan it makes sense for at least a portion of the population to stick with vegetarianism compared to somebody in the civil rights movement compared to somebody in any movement for social change even for cultural change even compared to artists even compared to what actors in the live theater go through or painters painters try to assign new and innovative merits those people suffer too are there any valid reason there any good excuses for eating animal flush yeah I think there are see it in perspective you think you think this is tough well this one isn't improbable at all for certain people living in developing countries who essentially have no access to like non meat nutrition they need meat in their diets to be healthy and even to survive it's pretty unrealistic for us right but not impossible I've done humanitarian work I knew what it was like when I was in human loss I woke up in the morning I chopped firewood with an axe and I boiled yellow lentils over the fire that was all ate all day nothing literally nothing but a vitamin pill white rice and yellow lentils and you know doing humanitarian work I mean it's not comfortable but I don't feel served myself was a wonderful opportunity I look back at it and I you know I feel glad that I had the opportunity to endure that and I did a little little bit to make the world a better place even though I did I did suffer terribly I'm not gonna tell the whole story but yeah sure but I mean you know in Laos I knew people who lived in caves and they lived in caves because the US Army was dropping bombs in their village the US Army was sending attack helicopters to shoot farmers dead in their fields and I knew one woman and she literally went through school that way they set up a blackboard in the cave and she studied her lessons with chalk and blackboard literally in a cave in the mountains on the border between Laos and Vietnam that was so she survived the war there's a strange contrast from you in my life I mean I've got a quotation here from the Osho Chi I'm not gonna read it out I guess but if you read this any of this kind of literature from the historical struggles of Communists tremendous capacity for self-sacrifice okay and people who knew what it was like to live in really rough conditions for decades because that was the struggle okay living in a cave what have you as long as the resources are going to waste as long as meat and other animal products are going to waste I don't see any reason not to use them I'm not a communist I'm not a communist sympathizer but I can still wreck those people this sense of self-sacrifice of dedication look guys we all just need to keep our suffering in perspective here whether you do that relative to the suffering of the animals where you think hey yeah you know what coming on YouTube and talking about my feelings is hard is really hard it's all I say it's hard okay but you know what the pigs are going through every day during their whole lives on a concrete floor a sow that gives birth on a concrete floor and as piglets sucking from her tits in the car before there's whole life in a world constructed out of nothing but steel and concrete until one day a human being comes along and slits their throat and they die I mean the death in many ways is not the worst part of this process okay if the lives of these animals are constant suffering they are born just to suffer and die okay relative to that all of us are going through nothing but relative to the type of suffering that leaders and followers in every other political program have gone through oh and I have talked about the idea of just using that meat even though it is going to waste being kind of inherently immoral I don't agree with that and I have talked about that before - absolutely no sense of an ethic of a public service of self-sacrifice and I have to ask again compared to any other social movement who has suffered less [Music]