Vegan Footsoldier: what if you (and Durianrider) are 100% right?

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eventually in Chiang Mai but it says what do we do with people like that what do we do people all that do we did they learn and a lot computers you have to punch the information in again again you've got to smash their [ __ ] teeth out and put them in hospital below how do we do when he's [ __ ] scumbags there are only two original ideas in the latest attempt to denounce me by vegan foot soldier an attempt to denounce me defame me recycle a lot of old lies that have ceased to be believable to anyone but a tiny lunatic fringe lies that have been addressed and refuted so many times the internet by so many people not just myself during the last year but its first original idea is that I'm a really bad person because I failed to offer to talk to durianrider by email by Skype or in person now as with many of his allegations against me I think it's really worthwhile to reflect if it were true if it were true would that be such a terrible thing let's look at a clip of durianrider stating very clearly that he means to use physical violence against me I look another question here at the festival have a great time we do have one shield one troll who's come over to Chiang Mai to cause havoc yeah a guy on YouTube who gave a sort of shiver create an event in Chiang Mai but now he's turned up and he's slamming me slam and freely he's pinellia wants to fight us and he's contacting underage girls on the internet in our community my kids in hey guys 37 years old and his name's Zell he's just creeper so we'll catch up with eventually in Chiangmai but it says what do we do with people like that what do we do people that do it did they learn it and a lot computers you have to punch the information in again and again you've got to smash their [ __ ] teeth out and put them in hospital before hello how do we do where your [ __ ] scumbags what do we do what do we do I guess I'm soon find out after watching this clip you can ask so well in this context of somebody saying they're going to beat you up they're gonna have a gang of people hunt you down and hurt you if you fail to offer to meet them in a cafe maybe that would be a real you know maybe I'd be the wrong move they'd be understandable I think you'd look at that and say well this is a guy in a tough situation this is a guy you know being threatened with violence and arrest with terrible unforgivable things being said about him on the internet and he didn't offer to talk to this guy by Skype or email me in the cafe but let's say it was me with you doing rider rights in the forum are this person has been contacting underage people my festival firstly that's true because we've got evidence city with contacting people like teenagers accessible so it's a fact it's not a fact whether or not he was a sexual predator that was doing was a speculation and that's the main thing and but if someone was speculating that I was a sexual predator or some other lofty claim of a so I'm really very very bad claim just like instantly try and resolve it I'd be like hey what what what's happening here let's resolve this [ __ ] out there and that's sort of like less meat let's do a Skype call they were both in Chiangmai so I would be like let's meet this cafe tomorrow let's talk about this or let's do Skype let's do a live debate let's do let's do something like I I don't want you talking this stuff out there because this is my reputation so let's resolve this as quick as possible that's what I would do but no I was amaz art instead of doing that he in order to foster pity from the vegan community and get everyone on the inside and show that he's such a victim and do rather such a nasty horrible monster and he cultivated this hate industry towards doing what if this allegation were true it would be really understandable and anybody with a shred of sympathy or shred of human decency would sympathize with that being a tough situation for anybody to conflict now instead as with every single one of the claims that foot soldier makes against me it is actually untrue it is actually a lie and you can see here on screen this is the very first interaction I ever had directly with durianrider falling after him making defamatory remarks about me threats of violence against me not only on Facebook also on his blog also on YouTube basically on every social media platform that he used and he writes saying it's not long until we find you in person it's in the context of physical threats balance and my first reply the first thing I ever said to him was you have my email you have my facebook you can talk to me on skype in five minutes conversely as stated in the video if you want to book a ring for a boxing match that's cool too as this interaction went on I offered to meet with during writer or anyone else in a cafe on the street and ultimately at a karaoke bar we had a karaoke night inviting people and so the allegations made against me by foot soldier are not just unreasonable and insulting and stupid they're also completely untrue the good news is not everyone is an idiot here's a comment put directly to vegan foot soldier but one of his viewers one of his fans I'm going to just call him by his first initial Jay Jay writes but hold on didn't aisel try to resolve the issue peacefully in Chiangmai didn't he offer to sky parley didn't he offer to meet in person didn't eyes'll even offer to meet hardly at the local Thai police station to face the pedophile and sexual predator allegations [ __ ] he even offered to add a friendly boxing match in a Thai gym after Harley threatened him with violence and publicly incited others to do so - that is serious [ __ ] right there when you are calling people pedophiles and inciting others to commit violent acts on your behalf none of this the seriousness of this does contact none of it is recognized by the foot soldier he's only interested in trying to blacken my character defame me blame me denounce me etc when someone is influential as Harley is publicly calling on others to incite violence and it's another human living in the near vicinity it is not beyond reason to assume it can have consequences to said person's safety as a fan of yours it amazes me how you will let that fact completely slide I think you're missing a pivotal part of the history watch during writers threats and allegations in his own words and pause that [ __ ] when needed so again I can provide that link below this video but that does simply show you everything during writer said to me and my replies at the time so if you really don't know the background of the story that is the one video to see it's only about three minutes long it'll take you about five minutes if you pause to read all the text on-screen but that is the story that's not my opinion above the story I don't narrate the video on the same thing that is the story hardly ought to face the consequences of his actions as anyone out there should only feel bad for the festival-goers and the local ties who benefit from Tours okay and here's the reply from foot soldier Jay I'm not trying to say I'm an expert on the topic but I don't think you are representing the reality situation I read all the original banter and eyes'll was simply just retaliating and the police-station thing was not an invitation to discuss he was merely saying if you've got a problem with me contacting young girls feel free to press charges against me pause here so foot soldier if that were true if that were true would that really be a bad thing as it happens this is not true foot soldier that was like everything you're saying is based on lines but I was facing threats of violence horrible criminal allegations so if I had said if you got a problem if that was the truth you've all just seen what I actually did say on screen how could you possibly condemn me for doing that wouldn't you just say hey this was somebody in a really tough situation I was only in Chiangmai for a few days I wasn't attend the festival I was getting paperwork in order for my visa in China I told that story a million times I was in Shanghai for totally different reasons do I arrive before the festival and left before it ended it was only there for a few days I tried to deal with situations that's good if this were true those happens not true I was really reaching out to people positively in many ways and Dave turkin writer had any interest obviously he could have been a negative situation could have been turned to a positive one including the fact that when heartily asked me to apologize too freely I did so so I did make efforts at building bridges and I did have meaningful you know dialogue with people from that camp and I never once attended one of their events I never once derailed or disrupted in any way their festival so I didn't protest their festival nothing like that happen all right so here's a reply from Jay again Jay says never claimed to be an expert just putting forth the evidence aisel was simply just retaliating is that your assessment of his replies aisel was in Chiangmai contrary to what you say in this video he did try multiple times to reach out and peacefully talk to Harley by email Skype in-person at a police station and even in the ring so he leaves out the karaoke bar I had a karaoke event but anyone could have come to you it was open - it was announced on YouTube and on Facebook anyone in Chiangmai I went to me with me and talked to me could have met me for karaoke also totally peaceful constructive way to meet up with people all right and even in the ring has hardly seemed to prefer violence above all as a solution again we've just put up screenshots showing eyes'll clearly writes and I quote if you want to meet up let's meet if you actually want to press charges against me in a court of law let's meet at the police station he mentioned that he has invited Hurley to talk in person to resolve the matter in his video he goes further - right if you want to meet up in real life I'm a hundred percent down down for it shall I go long question mark so footsoldier what exactly you're seeing that I am NOT and again you failed to address the public incitement of violence but hardly towards another human being without any evidence of wrongdoing what the [ __ ] man so foot soldier what does it say about you that this is the person you're making excuses for this is the person you're banging I'm just going to put this one screenshot up again Harley making these allegations against me and admitting at the same time that he has no evidence because nobody's talking about foot soldier this is a serious wrong done to someone and you know your claim that somehow I deserve this because I criticized during writers false phony cure for Crohn's disease there's there's just no symmetry here foot soldier there's no moral equivalence between my video serious giving a serious sober critique of during writers claims to have been cured Crohn's disease he having cured quite a number of other incurable diseases ok and what dairy animator did in this affair in terms of threats of violence defamation and all the rest of it let's look again at the very last sentence of this comment from foot soldier I said at the start of this video that he really just had two original ideas here and this is the second one he says as far as I know there was no genuine effort to cool the situation and create peace in the community that's interesting idea foot soldier but I'd like to see you apply that fairly and equally to yourself at what stage in this affair in the last year in the last two years at what stage have you ever made a genuine effort to cool the situation and create peace in the community you have published lie after malicious lie about me in video after video and in hundreds of written comments hundreds you have never taken the slightest interest in the facts not in the core case not in my life not Who I am not even in the content on my youtube channel everything you say is a lie everything you say is intended to exacerbate the conflict to make it worse to make more drama more hatred more division I reached out to you positively once you wrote back with the lowest form of schoolyard insults and lies and defamation as bad as anything durianrider said and in some cases worse foot soldier if your criticism of me is that you look at me when I was in this tough situation in Chiang Mai for a few days about to fly to China if your criticism of me is that in those very difficult circumstances facing threats of violence somebody defaming the public on the internet claiming that I'm a sexual predator etc when I'm in the middle of a divorce case and a custody battle for my daughter with all of that pressure on me if your claim is that I did not make enough of a genuine effort to cool the situation and create peace in the community what I want to ask you is what if you're a hundred percent right what if I just did the best that I could what I want to ask you right now foot soldier is why aren't you doing the best that you can why have you never made an effort to cool the situation and create peace in the community why have you never held durianrider to this standard and demanded that he try to cool the situation and create peace in the community why is it only at me that you point this finger of blame nobody's threatening to kick your ass in the streets of Chennai nobody's denouncing and defaming you you're not in the middle of a complex divorce case custody struggle trying to see your own daughter again you don't have any of that pressure on you you're not enrolled in courses to learn the Chinese language you're not starting a new job you don't know any of that stuff going on in your life and yet this is what you're capable of new lies new insults and you have never never once reciprocated positively the efforts I made to communicate with you whether that was just me offering to share legal documents to let you know that the court case was real or to in a more profound way talk about what's going on in Venus and foot soldier I did reach out to people positively I always have reach out to people possibly including my harshest critics including people who openly say they hate me including you and including vegan Ava vegan Ava said unforgivable things not just saying that I'm guilty of fraud financial fraud not only accusing me of really serious crimes in a way that could impact my career and so on but she said unforgivable things about my wife and my daughter my private life my family life these people have crossed the line in a way that you know would have terrible consequences if you're in a coffee shop together in a bar together or if your co-workers or cousins and I responded to that hostility by reaching out them and saying hey it's not hard to find me we can talk hey if you think this court case is a fraud I can show you the evidence that it's not if you're just willing to listen if you're just willing to talk but none of you people are you preach that you should make a genuine effort to cool the situation and create peace in the community but you do not practice what you preach footsoldier this makes you not only a liar but more importantly a hypocrite you can look through his channel go go back and like you can see videos from ages ago like what way more than a year ago where he was really like fledgling freely doing rider water for Gary Yourofsky like loads of people so he is fostering this negativity so he's built his entire channel on defaming during rider and water form and various other people once again I had to ask if this were true if it were true what would the implications really be can you name anyone on YouTube who built up their channel by criticizing other channels by pledging other channels to use during writers favorite verb I can name two right now freelee and durianrider why is it that you hold me to a completely different standard then you hold dairy mite or two if you claim my channel is built on sledging other channels why do you not see that as a serious fault in freely why do you not see that as a serious fault enduring writer and last but not least why do you not see that as a fault in yourself your channel footsoldier your conduct an horrendous percentage of it is slander defamation insults and sledging people and no you don't have any sense of the content that's on my channel you don't watch my channel your evidently not aware that there really is quality positive content on my channel I don't just insult someone like Gary France aione you can take a soundbite out of context I did in-depth book reviews and discussions about his contribution movement I don't just say direct action everywhere is garbage I have long thoughtful videos talking about the politics and strategy and effective activism on and on and on about major intellectuals major organizations major questions about the present and future the vegan movement the fact that you haven't seen that content or you're pretending you haven't does it make you seem more authoritative it just makes you seem like even more of a hypocrite why don't you take a long look at your own content about me do you really think you're doing something other than what you condemned me for here you're trying to get famous by sledging other youtubers including myself so if that's what you think I'm guilty of and if you were a hundred percent correct then it seems like the only difference between me and you is that I'm way more successful at it and the only difference between me and freely is that freely is way more successful at it because if you look at all critique as being equal the defamation which is what you do here you see no difference between a critique of the claim to have cured Crohn's disease the false claim that the diet and exercise plan of daring writer can cure chrome jeez you see no difference between that and defamation of the kind from durianrider would just put on screen if you see no difference between those two things if you're going to criticize these people for the lack of positivity then again your problem is that you're not just a liar you're a hypocrite because you are far more guilty of this same sin than I am the new yen