Talking to Vegan Cheetah: Worst of the Vegan Industry.

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I heard you for one second and then your voice cut out no I heard you for one second right at the start of the call and then since then I believe you at all so skype is actually not blocked in China the government does not block or prevent you from using skype yo what's up check one two check one two testing 123 check one two testing 123 testing 123 fabulous all right it is what it is man nah man I mean the only thing I won't hear from you you know you know when you were sitting there you were the smartest guy on that bench you were the smartest guy in the room and I got a ton of fan mail from people who only watched that video because I shouted it out and they wrote to me saying man you were right cheetah was the most intelligent person in that room you busy I know no I'm not mad no dude I'm the one guy who knows dude I know I know there's a difference between you acting a fool I dude I know there's a difference between you know the role you play and who you really are I know that not everyone knows that but you know I was a guy who pointed out with social murabba to a lot of people put on a persona and I know you're trolling about eighty-five percent of the time I know it I know the difference to who you really are who you pretend to be and that's why you should have tried to stay my friend man it's really a shame because we did get each other well enough that I could tell when you were trolling and I can tell when you're being who you really are and I can tell when you're trying to be who you aspire to become which is also a beautiful thing man but yeah uh I don't think you or I are here right now to talk about friendship you ain't okay weren't you why don't you tell me what's the of all the things that God said to you when you were in LA on this trip well show me what was the most intelligent thing that Nina and Randa said to you did they have any words of wisdom for you that you feel you're going to carry with you the rest your life I mean I'm not here to talk about my private conversations with need and random but yes I did speak with me in and Randa and they were very helpful they did give me a lot of helpful advice while I was there um so did the rest of their family and you know I'm going to leave it at that for right now but they were yes they were very encouraging very helpful very insightful and you know maybe not you know the life that I want to live but they they did offer me a marsh insight into you know just the expo and kind of the world out there and and I was really appreciative of it oh wow man so you got off a nevar and are you back on nicotine is that the other change i'm hearing in your voice or what because I mean last time we talked thank you on the 12 mm you were quitting nicotine and you were on the pills yeah um I'm no longer on the anavar cycle I did cycle off that a couple of weeks at about three or four weeks ago um and I am back to vaping um so it's not summer time anymore i'm not quite as into my cardiovascular exercises i was you know a couple months ago so i said [ __ ] it you know i mean i was going through you know a little bit a little bit of personal drama and i decided to uh to break down and pick up the vape but you know we will have our place though no no shade no shade but I take it also mean I mean at the end of the day I'm doing a pretty good job totally insane but also you you do use some kind of exogenous testosterone or pro hormone testosterone booster I take it right I mean are we here to talk about my steroid use dude it's so penny conversation everyone cheetah yes I was taking a nevar but i have no longer taking it okay but i but anavar is one thing the testosterone boosters are another so I mean are you still using a prohormone or a testosterone booster no I know I haven't used testosterone booster and quite some time okay so that's a big that's a big change in your life uh no I mean you know look dude I'm we can take it yeah we'll meet me too in case you haven't heard but you know uh no you know I got sympathy for you it's just you don't always have sympathy for me but you know just a couple sympathy or your Hideo no no no chita chita I didn't say you were asking cheetah I didn't say you were asking I didn't say anything like that but no it's it's interesting to know that those are some of the the changes that are in a sense on camera all the time but they're also behind the scenes and I can certainly imagine how those changes in your drug habits to be blunt will you know change the way you conduct yourself in some of these high stress situations so that's all I'm just saying I can sympathize I know you don't need my sympathy but that's cool but you were just saying online a couple minutes ago and I know you're trolling I know you're playing around and I know you're not nearly as stupid as you pretend to be you were saying that I was on steroids so you know I mean that's the game you play mat and you know it's not true but that's fine you aren't even going to ask me about that because you know I'm not if there was a wild hahaha but I see um you're you're telling me now that you're you know giving me a little off hand compliment about my intelligence but just a couple of day to co you or did not see me for being one of the biggest idiots that you've ever tried to associate yourself with and actually what you said is the only reason that you reach out to me was because of and I quote your generosity of spirit so let's not sit here and play this game and pretend that I you know you think or have any respect for my level of intelligent whatever be academic or emotional toll chita chita chita I don't I haven't pretended anything on video so I'm not what's with the cheetah I haven't cheetah cheetah I haven't printed anything cheetah have been I've been very honest with you throughout enemy if you want to talk about that yeah sure cheetah I've on still time you just mentioned you refer to yourself as a college dropout did you decide to drop out of the program because I don't follow your videos so I don't know did that happen do you drop out your cultural run no I'm currently in college no okay well it's good and blood here that good for you sorry guys I guess you were joking before but you said you were a culture up okay yeah no but I mean uh been in college for quite some time now but we all know that well yeah but in terms your journalism degree etc etc I mean you know I knew your whole situation what it was can let's go through still on that good good positive change you know um that's another big positive change i guess you could say in my life but I don't imagine we're here to talk about my my aspirations to get a college degree either are we well dude the last time I was on the phone with you you were screaming at me that I had to suck your dick among other things so I mean in terms of the range of behaviors that are possible when I get on the phone with the vegan cheetah back on that admit that was not my most flattering moment in time that's almost an apology cheetah outstanding you know i'm i'm very unapologetic you know this fun well and you know the opposite about me i apologize to freely when she didn't deserve an apology i apologize to a piece of [ __ ] like vegan revolution he's someone you and I can both agree as a piece of [ __ ] when he didn't deserve an apology I apologized all kinds of people and I reach out positive lead all kinds people i think are scumbags i reach a pause lee to vegan Ava so you know and when I talk but when I would university is furious i'm talking about do you not think that you you know Oh a couple certain people in a Chiefs first offhand comments that no in your words you made in passing I mean do you think that maybe you might owe some sincere apology just because you know I'm just not sure where you're going with with your recent content but enlighten us well cheetah I mean I I know you actually do know what's going on I know right now you're playing dumb to make it better fries which I don't fault you for and really even in journalism that's a style yeah and I know that you know but I mean the difference between me and many youtubers not all but the difference between me and someone like happy healthy vegan or someone like Jeff or many many channels is that when I come on camera I am actually sharing real emotion my real perspective my real opinion and in general I'm giving it to you in a very raw and unedited form and so when I call those people idiots I don't think anyone who's watched even the 10 minutes out of that video it's 20 minute video but I don't think anyone would get to the 10-minute mark and think that I'm trolling there's no trolling in that video it's completely sincere and completely to the point and it's not pointless like I'm not calling them idiots because I think it's funny I'm not calling them idiots to get views I'm doing real point that's what say but just that's the first point the girls looks um first of all in my personal opinion I I'm struggling to choose your the look cheetah your pachita you're smarter than this man secondly secondly secondly um you know you have a daughter of your own and write only reason I can see for you coming at the twins like that is to somehow get to Jeff or the rest of their family but that's my in my mind yeah cheetah cheetah I appreciate what you're doing right now as an art form and you may remember like a year ago I said to you that you could try doing step yeah cheetah i'm replying to you you pachita like any art form or less it's some answers area she uh but like any art form what you're doing is inherently artificial IE fake IE dishonest broadcasting this is very real there's nothing really artificial about this or about this conversation I mean you know can we stay on topic please Kate can you humor me and just stay on topic police hi cheetah why don't you look to you know your content my content anybody's content and number two just out of respect for the fact that you know you're a father Jeff's a father you know what would you do I mean if somebody so that's a really big topic which I'm very happy to talk about me as a parent and my daughter I'm very hyped up with that but you asked two questions so i can answer the first part first because i'm just trying to answer your question but cheetah you know exact the house in serum being in that video you know I'm not playing around and also you're smarter than you're pretending to be the other names in that video you know no no just washing face sense chita chita chita chita chita now shoo for including happy LTV get a lot of people yeah I know yeah but you know what you know apologize and retracting the statements right so I'm ask you a cheetah you actually know who Gary Francie ona is you know you know who Gary Yourofsky is and you know what I've said about the stuff you actually understand what that video is really about you're pretending you don't because it makes it more entertaining but you know what that video is actually about you get the point you're not that dumb and most of these people playing the game do not get the point and do not know what the video is about why not put Gary [ __ ] in the title of the video well he's in the description the full list of every single person mentioned including breeze her I'm answer your question I'm asked you a question because the title of the video your intention is a [ __ ] Gary Yourofsky why not include him in the title why it Nina in random who's okay because you question my god well why are you let me answer do you want to hear me answer I answer that question for clothes yesterday too chita chita chita uh you and know you haven't wing you just asked down that I couldn't get an answer it cheetah you and Nina and Randa are the people addressed within the first two minutes of the video that's why your names are first and the other names are there in the order of appearance cheetah the names are in order of appearance so breeze Harper's name appears before Gary Francie on a is not because breeze harbor is more important so there is an answer your question and in the title that's what I don't understand because the title isn't long enough to have 20 names in it so they can the list of names continues in the description but if you read the text what it is no it's what's discussed in the first two minutes and it's the topic of the video that's why it's returned to in the conclusion the video has a very clear topic and thesis the thief look cheetah you're playing dumb why don't you tell me what is the thesis of the video what is the thesis of the video cheetah come on i broadcast in I really don't expect you to you know to insult me here or mix you know motivation here or oh sure pretend you're offended cheetah you know cheetah some questions and I thought this would be a good opportunity I understand so cheetah in your opinion is this a hot or not video is that the topic of the video you're not that stupid you know what the videos about so what's the topic is it Nina and Randa hot or not is that the topic is plenty of people done my videos were first of all I I didn't ask what is the topic video I asked you simply why did you include Nina and Randa and why did you make the statement she made about Nina red right yeah right I man so good right so so okay so cheetah what is the video the wall actually I was going to answer the second after your question yeah I was guys the second of course you asked you asked an interesting question before about how my own daughter fits into it I'm happy to talk with that but why don't you some restaurants because some of you have some of your Argent's haven't watched this video swim as long why don't you as a journalist just tell others what is the video about because it's not about whether or not Nina and r and r attractive people it's that's not topic of the video again anisul to be quite honest I don't think the viewers are interested in what the videos about specifically um and and I'm personally not asking that I I'm asking a very direct question about um how are you gonna interview me no cheetah how are you gonna interview me about a video while pretending you don't know what the video is about or changing the topic of the video the video what is it about we're going to talk for 20 minutes about a video and we're gonna pretend we don't know what the videos about your rough sea vegan revolution Nina and Randa or you know a the political turmoil in Syria regardless what you said was that Nina and Randa and i quote are not good um then you went on to say that you know so it's just the ridiculous statement that Nina and Randa are not beautiful they're not even average-looking girls in Los Angeles you went on specifically to describe that Nina and Randa are aspiring actresses and that they don't stand out they could never be models and then later on in the video after you talked about Gary Yourofsky you went on to talk about Nina and Randa were um bikini wannabes I think it's what you said something like that bikini wanna be is on YouTube and that they think of themselves as vegan leaders and how much of a joke that is um so specifically with that content that you produced what do you have to say about it like we that's what we want to talk about that's what I want to talk about okay so your question is what do I have to say about it is that I'm a can ask that question its kind of broad quite your question is what do I have to say about it what was your intention what was the purpose of doing that ok that's a quest reveal was not about mean and randa these big rewards no she says hey Cheetah I'm happy to answer the question if the video is about Gary ruffs cheetah I'm not complaining it's just a somewhat I'm just clarifying this request early why even include them in the title or the content of the video so cheetah I was just confirming that your question was what do I think about it's fine you can ask that question it's just like okay you seem to be leading to a more specific question and then your questions what do I have to say about it okay that's a kind of meandering around the block question so first and foremost if anyone's interested in the video should watch the whole 20 minute video cuz it very clearly sets out its argument you put cheetah that's the question you asked me was what do I have to say about it so I'm gonna answer that question now alright yeah you can change your question that's the question you asked cheetah if you want to ask a better question go ahead you took all what you took way more than two minutes to get to that question giving you the opportunity here in front of over 200 people let get to it she did so your your your question was what do I have to say about my own video I can I totally get it now I do so look cheetah if you don't cooperate with you you're impossible I love the games you play cheetah I love it uh but if she even talk to suchita you've just taken the world's most bland and boring question which is what you have to say about you've tried to spice it up by throwing in some totally irrelevant insults about my divorce like as if I'm gonna lose my temper with you to get to the to the answer or are we gonna I mean what are we doing here sure uh you know cheetah you know if you want to know what I think about my video you're very probing and deep question I think I'm raising a really important point that's stated on screen and a graphic and it's also stated in the thumbnail and that's in you know when the words use there i was saying compared to these idiots the intellectuals and veganism are even worse and talk about a series of intellectual some of them are professors and authors people with PhDs people in high status positions people like carrie Francie ohne and Wayne's Young Leaders of foundations and lawyers no no cheetah real vegans care and actually you care because I remember when you used to make cheetah you cheetah you pretend you pretend to be stupider than you are I remember the videos you made about them and I remember you talking about me with them I know you've read their stuff and you thought about used to care a lot about social justice issues I remember all the phaser channel through that you can play this game with your audience but I know who you really are so whatever I don't care you know this is a persona you know me but fita you are as much playing a character a sorcerer mirada ok skin some of the you know the idiots that are at the forefront of the political movement that is veganism right so that's what your video is about that's what you're saying basically it presents a contrast it presents a ver definite thesis and you can see that in the thumbnail different contrast besides you know Nina and r and it seemed a little over fandom you know it just seemed like random but then when we think of the history you have with bed shores over the last couple months maybe it's not so random oh yeah right so cheetah a cheetah these these probing questions you're asking me why don't you look at the list of the last 20 or 30 videos I've made like you know I upload a lot I've uploaded more than 400 videos so on a daily basis I try to stop by your channel as often as I can that's no cheetah cheetah I'm answering your question I'm answering your question you asked the question Gary Yourofsky and you're you know disagreements with with some of the leaders this what you call our leaders in the vegan movement I don't think the house leader you're all leaders what I call Nina and Leonard net Randall leaders also the girl Rita and then why bring my name into it I brought your name in Charles Charles I brought your name in because you were the smartest guy on the bench cheetah Nina and ran in the title you know you're guaranteed to crack a thoughts and views before the end of the night Emma gee I disagree completely I think when I talk about those other issues people really do care and I think I got far more views actually on my videos dealing with Gary Yourofsky then on that video and you know I speak to a small specialized audience which you know again you can play dumb but you're ready notice about me I'm not not trying to reach a mass audience so I talk really sincerely British you said care about and that includes people like Gary Yourofsky Gary frenzy on a direct action everywhere political and legal issues blah blah blah and you know there are a few thousand people who care about my content but no I'm not trying to reach the same audience the Nina and Rand are reaching with their great video the lick my body challenge so that's if I have the floor that's what I'm you're like to talk about with Eugene Charles as a what get like power ue expert and you don't mean in using mass communications to talk about veganism what makes you the expert if you know your trying to pander to the smallest audience you can possibly conceive like what makes you the expert that that you know and that's another question to ask you cheetah um have you watched the video lick my body challenge by Nina right I have you watched the video to be honest with you I stopped by me and Randy's channel as often as I can but again I consume so much content on a daily basis I do not watch every so okay so so you can guess from the title what that is the lick my body challenge by Nina and random to be honest with you it could be anything I mean with clickbait these days I have no idea tell tell me about the video it's it's just what the title suggests and it has had more than two million views cheetah I'm sure you're jealous what's your which what's the problem you just asked me what expertise do I have to judge this type of material I would ask you how much expertise do you think I need to form an opinion on the content of the lick my body challenge okay number one why why should I care about your opinion on the lick my body challenge oh yeah I'm just answering your questions I'm just your question challenge have to do with your video they supposedly about Gary Yourofsky oh it's it's about both as stated it's a contrast and cheetah this comes back to early question you asked a question earlier that was really interesting some of your other questions are not so interesting but about how my own daughter fits into it how would you feel or how do I feel if your daughter made that video the lick my body challenge okay I do not think that people like Jeff Nelson or Nina and Randa themselves are in a position to really front on this like they're in a holier-than-thou position and they're going to morally judge me for this video of made I think in terms of the moral judgment the fact that these young women promoted Taco Bell is a huge ethical issue don't pretend it isn't they did an advertisement for Taco Bell promoting meat and dairy and fast food okay and they know and they make their money by putting up videos sorry well I'm answering you want let me finish and they make their money by producing videos such as the lick my body challenge so if you think that's above reproach you think nobody can criticize that and even very mild and polite terms that I did in my channel then I think you got nothing coming cuz that's a very reasonable criticism that right there proves to me that your level of emotional intelligence is very very low because what you did is not polite so chita chita the direct and none of the viewers don't agree with cheetah cheetah cheetah you know this is cheetah the fictional character speaking it was polite the criticism was not not polite and the fact that you say that it proves to us that emotionally okay lack of emotion okay she okay yeah so why don't you why don't you do this as nice as me what would be so cheetah cheetah I love this fictional character man you are as fake as Sorcha merova on her worst day my dad is a professor of mass communications thing oh wow really really cheetah I didn't know that about you hey Cheetah did you grow up in a small town with dirt roads and no shoes that's great really your dad's a professor I didn't know that about you wait a minute cheetah don't you insult me all the time because my parents pay for my university tuition unlike yourself right really your dad's a professor thanks you you where's like a cheetah why why didn't you just raise the fact that your father's a professor why is that sorry cheetah why did you just say that look man keep it real wherever you want to talk about you want to talk about an ugly mean and ran through or what I don't give a [ __ ] but I mean you know come on keep it real um yeah if if we cheetah if you it's obvi I'm inai don't know what standards you're going by but I mean it's obvious that even randa are not ugly it's obvious that they are actually very attractive young girls and I think retreated so why are you right so let me respond to that too Gary Francie Oni or Gary Yourofsky or any of these other nobodys that you mentioned like the only name that actually means something to anybody put Nina and Randa you know I mean so why that's what I'm having trouble understanding the contrast there so well you know that's not true at all you know those people reach a huge audience they're tremendously influential you know about Gary Francie own and so on you just fronting but I know this is the role you're playing for your audience and whatever no point that when I books written by nobody's that nobody's ever heard of me maybe your constituency worships these people but you know my constituency just simply could care less about what some of these clowns are talking on right ok so you elleven every time you bring them up on their channel ok so so your point is people don't read books well that actually wasn't a question I don't mind if you ask a questions fine but if you make a point I can reply your point your point is people don't read books therefore my channel should address need and randa and should not address people I Gary friend sorry that was the point you just made whereas earlier you were suggesting the exact opposite books I said people don't read the books that you're reading because you know to be honest with you I mean Gary Yourofsky I haven't made one video about him like a year ago and I you know nobody's talking about Gary rusty but you okay see that so what is your point that it's good that i made a video about Nina and Randa because that is what your audience wants to hear about and your only interest is if you're gonna like if you're gonna throw shade at mean and randa and indirectly throw shade at Jeff Nelson because he did support you when oh please no it's about adultery haider episode you know it would be easier for you to just make a video simply stating that and coming at jeff directly um instead of you know trying to sit here and tell me the bold-faced lie until my dear is a bold-faced lied that your video was actually in fact about a real political intellectual issue um that has to do with veganism where you were really talking about Gary Yourofsky when I think you mentioned him once and you mentioned mean and randa three times in the video cheetah cheetah chita chita I'm really glad that you're you're off the drugs you were on before and you're on different drugs man it sounds like it's really helped you oh man I'm really glad I'm really glad that you're off the steroids chita chita I'm really glad that you're off the steroids I'm really glad that you're off the testosterone I'm really I'm really glad that you're back on nicotine you know what because I mean the last time you talked to me you more or less at a nervous breakdown on camera and should it have you repeatedly that i should i should suck your dick so really sounds like you come a long way cheetah but when you're ready to deal with the exact opposite of what you just said when you're ready to actually talk to me about real vegan political issues when you don't want to pretend that this is a tiff between myself and jeff from veg source when you're actually willing to deal with the content of the video that's what i do want to talk to you you know deep I know cuz you're a sack of [ __ ] much as I possibly can it seems like you talk a lot and you do you talk a really good game but let's let's reject the conversation chita chita chita chita chita chita chita today and Wayne's cheetah did you watch the video do you I did you watch my new video which is addressed to happy healthy vegan answers that question yeah there's such nice people cheetah cheetah do you ever ask yourself that question because all you are now is a Fame [ __ ] I just came back from the healthy lifestyle expo oh yeah right nections offline as I possibly could and I I made you know i made i established at least some really strong acquaintance ships with some people in los angeles and not only that I you know I really paid attention to more than just mice you know speech on vegan drama at the expo and you know I think I got a lot out of it and I definitely think um you know I have a much better direction of where I'm going as a vegan and you know making real changes and not only my light put in the life of others so again I'm gonna have that's great chita chita chita I'm so happy for you why don't you keep telling yourself that all right cheetah you make your living cheetah you earn your living through slander and defamation and you know that you earn your living by coming on the internet and saying things that you know to be false in the hope that your audience of morons will throw a few extra views your way you show I cuz i know it inside note i know other people you slandered so cheetah I mean it's great that you've made this uh you know myth of your own morality vegans that's pretty slanderous you know for another vegan oh if you could that's another thing I want to talk about to I mean if you don't want to answer the last question we can talk about this like why play the fake vegan card like didn't we work really hard this summer to kind of get away from that culture didn't we work very hard yes cheetah didn't we what did you do what did you yeah that's right and then you turned around and you embrace durianrider and you claim that my court case is fake when you know it's real and you denounce me in the family cheetah you claimed that you you speculated that I had some kind of love affair with the 16 year old when you know I didn't you intentionally scraped the bottom of the barrel for every crumb Eli and recycled [ __ ] that you knew during writer invented a thin air just to get attention and yes you were on drugs at the time you were high on a nevar and I think testosterone and you were trying to quit vey thing the fake vegan comment I'll tell you because it explains you cheetah explains why you're a fake vegan cheetah cheetah you cheetah you are a fake vegan that's the relevant cheetah you asked me about the use of the term fake vegan it's used to describe people like you because your parasite on this movement you're not making a positive contribution you're doing your little bit to exploit and destroy the movement you are a fake vegan cheetah you tell me why you think that cuz just a few months ago you said the exact office didn't say the exact opposite cheetah I really didn't watch Cheetah it's not the exact opposite of what I said before you know I have a certain level of tolerance 30 times you said you thought what I was doing was great you thought I was versatile you said that you know even though I don't think of myself as a political activist you think that I'm making real political changes and I mean you these are these are things that you've cheetah I gave you I gave you very specific praise because in the past some of the things you did were really good and the praise I gave you was completely sincere and cheetah you everything everything that was good about your channel cheetah everything cheetah everything that was I might deduct everything that was good about your channel you stop doing and everything that was bad about your channel became worse and worse and your excuse for denouncing me last time was that you were so hurt you were so upset that I would dare to compare you to during writer but the reality is today you're worse than during writer because when durianrider defames people at least he's being sincere and you're playing an insincere game and just trying to get people's attention it's just trying to get views and make money out of the movement and some of us out here are actually sincerely involved in trying to set up a real movement if you want to say I'm worse than during right I mean you're entitled to your opinion but it's a it's giving any kind of diet advice i'm not the one telling anybody to change their way of life I mean I'm just entertaining let me let me tell you the difference in human during right when durianrider yeah cheetah when during writer says that he cured crohn's disease he actually believes that when de rain writer says that his weight loss advice will change her life and will cure your mental disorders and help you overcome schizophrenia he believes that he's speaking with conviction and when I say in my video that I think Gary Yourofsky is an idiot i'm not trolling either I'm really being sincere and that's something me and during writer have in common we come on camera and we share something real from our lives and you cheetah do not even have that quality you're a fraud and a fake and you are the lowest rung of fake vegan chita chita chita yourself uploads cheetah I know you cheetah cheetah I know you I knew you back in the day you talk to me after your mom died etc we used to be tight what you're doing now it's corrosive it's fake it's bad for the movement and it's even bad for you and I don't care if you and cheetah I don't care your zombies are down the cheetah cheetah cheetah tell the truth we like you you have all these opinions but then you don't believe I mean they're just opinions you don't have any real facts or rhyme or reason behind the things you say and you're entitled to your opinions but you know if we're going to talk about corrosiveness within the vegan community I mean you've managed pretty much to burn every single bridge out there and we anticipate shortly oh yeah right sheet of like if you look at the numbers of your channel compared to mine the only thing that's corrosive is your channel feet up you know I mean I'm doing really good yeah cheetah I know you think that no I don't cheetah I think you're a sack of [ __ ] chita chita you've convinced me that you're a [ __ ] unredeemable idiot sack of [ __ ] okay you that's how you convinced me of and I know you I know you personally ok and a whole lot of other people who knew you personally they've come to the same conclusion step by step I don't use terms like burning bridges but you know just a couple months ago cheetah cheetah let me finish the sense let me finish the sense she died lemme finish sense cheetah just a couple months ago I invited you to join me in Thailand this December his connections still there's the cold Rob yes okay sorry uh and you would have been there Jason Xena would have been there I invited Joe vegan fight a whole bunch of people we're gonna have a totally positive events initially we plan to do it where you lived in the US so it'd be close to you and easy for you to go to you because your parole options there's a totally positive low-intensity now particular political Matt just so that people could meet each other face-to-face to send positive and you know that didn't happen because of you so you know in an alternate universe man what's stopping you hat hold the event cheetah we wanted to have that event for you with the same spirit with which before you and I ever met before you never talk I'm the guy who made that video congratulating you about getting out of rehab just cuz I want to support you and you know what your contact was like like that in the same spirit a lot of people just wanted to see you succeed just want to support you want to have an event in Thailand originally we planned it in the states again for you chita chita chita I know but I asked you chita chita you may forget but she did we asked you chita chita chita you know what happened okay now that's never gonna happen because of you and you took the little bit of optimism are you know cheetah you just told me cheetah cheetah you just told me cheetah cheetah jeeta you just told me I burned bridges okay the reality is everyone who believes in you everyone who support you everyone in New you and everyone cared about you you burn the bridges with them because you tried to make a nickel and dime out of selling fake stories about their sex lives about their private lives denouncing and defaming them morally and you even did it to someone as harmless as the vegan lasts AKA lauren phoenix that's who you are that's again that's who you are and that's how you've become and the reality is yeah that event is never going to happen but think about how much more positive this whole situation would be if you had just been the guy who said yeah you know what this thing in Thailand is positive let's do this and again we initially offered do in the States just for you I mean I for this year 2016 I've got my positive event gap-fill like I I went to my positive event I mean I'd like to do more positive events in 2017 too but what I'm telling you is you know the event shouldn't you shouldn't rely on whether you know vegan cheetah is gonna be there whether if you can cheat as a scumbag or vegan cheetahs slamming people like whatever it is it matters cheetah cheetah really good basis to hold an event you know depending on vegan cheetah I mean I youtuber for crissakes me to cheetah I'm a youtuber to you realize that sometimes I forget it yeah Nina and Randa are not beautiful you remind us izel that you are a youtuber so congratulations uh-huh so again if you wanted to be event put the event on that events never going to happen now and it's really sad because cheetah the stuff you do know cheetah a lot of people want to work with me that's not the issue at all cheetah you took a positive situation cheetah you took a pause situation where so many people eat believed in you and so many people supported you because at the time when it really mattered you stood up and did the right thing and said the right thing in a storm of controversy about durianrider and yes you know that was artley opportunity for you to promote yourself but you also took a morally correct position and you beat the hell out of it you made a lot of videos that were entertaining and informative and they told the truth and you destroyed that and you destroyed that by telling lies and by trying to exploit your friendships with other people to make little nickels and dimes telling fake stories about their sex lives and their private lives and their moral failings that's what you've become you've become somebody worse than to rewrite er you are the lowest of the low and this and I made videos defending Harley and you know I did and they're still up nope no there's always been a difference really during rider in the Thai food festival it was all fun and games but then you're playing dumb you're playing dumb and you know you are it happened to be somebody that you were doing having look chita chita chita stop and keep it real cheetah I don't do fiction cheetah cheetah I only do nonfiction cheetah cheetah stop stop stop stop cheetah I only do nonfiction she'd if you're not going to keep it real we're not gonna talk okay but I mean keep it 100% real cheetah when you broke the story that Harley and freely had broken up the day their their relationship and that were no new boyfriend girlfriend I didn't know that I was surprised somehow you did real reporting you did original research you talked to somebody you've put the piece daily figured out and then you kind of proved your case by going through videos and taking over this business I when you first reported that I didn't even believe it and eventually we found out you were right but also you took the time to really break down and and report it that was real that was real gossip cuz that said that that's what I do i uncover it no it's not that's what you used to do okay and then you switch to being in a mode where you tell malicious lies that you know we're not true where you will go as far as pretending that I'm on steroids that you did a couple minutes ago where you will go as far as pretending that photograph some guy on a chat room doctored of putting my face on a porn stars body that those are legitimate evidence where you will make up and play games with the most outrageous lies and you will sell out your own friends and and you break all your own rules okay you defame me and say malicious things that impact me and my divorce and my ex-wife and my daughter you have no limits you have no druthers you have gone from being so many people cheered on heroically because you spoke truth to power you challenged powerful people like during writer when they were doing things that are really immoral and really criminal and now you've become someone who panders to durianrider now you've become someone who pretends during writer didn't do anything wrong when he threatened to murder me when he threatened to have people beat me up in the street so cheetah why did you you tell me she you like this term you like this term flip flop why did you flip open that why is it that before you thought it was wrong for during writer to have me beaten up on the street and dragged into jail etc and then you flip flopped and pretended it was right and you apologized for donating to my legal fund that's quite a flip-flop seeing as you think Lauren's for donating to your legal I know I know yeah right I know chita chita chita that's why you're a fake vegan Facebook you keep saying he slandered you and defamed you but the truth is you're not famous there's nothing to defame and the second thought the second part is he didn't slander you because he didn't hurt any business you don't have an income it was wrong for me to donate to the legal fun and encouraged my viewers to donate to that legal fund number one because treated problems and a lot of fun and we didn't really think it through all the way and number two yes I was exploiting that for some views and at the expense of during rider at the time and I was angry during rider and you know looking back on it now I wish I would have seen things a little bit more clearly um but you know you know there's no legal fun I know there's no legal see this is the sense cheetah this is the sense in which you are one hundred percent cheetah you are one hundred percent playing a fictional character so chita chita chita chita you are playing cheetah you are playing a fictional character right now you are one cheetah cheetah you are one hundred percent playing a fictional character right now okay yeah let's cut the [ __ ] cheetah you have told all these lies about me in my sex life I do want you but you never will because you've taken this path and you're sticking to it you've makes you money