Your Dog Hates You: "Service Animals" and Airplane Pillows.

harmony is a special autism service dog
and primarily she provides him with support and safety she makes sure that he stays with us and that they are kind of attached at the hip if you will you know there are moments in that video where I do tier up a little bit where you feel a great upsurge of empathy for that individual and a great surge of respect for the relationship between that animal and that person but I'm also not a person who's completely blinded by that who is going to take that emotional response and not be able to see past it not be able to see any other side to anything else and I do believe the subject to service dogs has another side has a side that is a little bit dark and only the dogs who accept the harness and accept the training those dogs are used and the dog has to take the step when you tell them to take a step not when you move different than if it was a human helping them then they feel like they're a burden but with the dog they feel like it's a team I've never seen a dog this as happy as her and she's on a harness and yeah I really just don't believe it's neglect I believe that we're a team my parents are for example who is always super excited when my dog hope that gets out like the thing for around his neck to go walking or if you know take him across the street so it doesn't get harmless if I get dog it's like it's different any human dog needs me to stay alive I need the dog to stay alive the dog needs me to stay alive I need the dog to stay alive dog needs me to stay alive discussions about what a dog feels what a dog thinks what makes the dog happy are very ambiguous to me what I am interested in is looking at my own experiences related to some of these topics and reflecting on them and honestly expressing how I feel I think that's the best I can do take care to leave it I do acknowledge that there's some gray area on this subject I'm coming at this from someone who can see why you would feel empathy can understand it to his experienced feelings of empathy for the work of service dogs and what they provide people but I also see on some other level the reality that in this business animals are selected animals are broken that animals are feeded through and sort it out for the ones that will be a most amenable to the requirements of the job and the requirements on the of the job on a lot of levels are not to be a dog and so many times we will go out with practicing with our own service drugs and training and see some of these dogs that are just totally inappropriate in terms of their behavior they might bark in a store they may pull in lunge on the leash worse they might come to attack a legitimate service dog and service dogs are taught not to fight we don't want dogs that are aggressive so if they're attacked by another dog they are going to be passive the instincts that a normal dog has that a normal animal has to want to defend itself defend its territory to interact communicate with other individuals of its own species desire to do things such as mate to some degree play just some very large degree to be a dog to be an animal are things that are weeded out things that are trained out and I wonder if this kind of training on some level take something away from them but then the dog comes in a new home I start to see the new people as their pack began is someone that I've interacted very briefly and limitedly on this topic um in comment sections but it seems clear to me and I feel a relative competence saying that she she very strongly believes that dogs can have very strong connections to humans that they can see humans as a pack and that there's scientific evidence to back this up maybe so but is there something subtly sinister suddenly subtly creepy about these relationships that we have with these animals other reasons why I prefer to use the term political science rather than political philosophy is that I do really care about the practicalities of all these questions you can sit down and have a debate in an academic context or in a coffee shop run the table with some friends asking what really was the correct thing for the President of the United States to do after September 11 2001 you can do it in a totally fantasy unrealistic hypothetical manner but probably even within a casual conversation inevitably your attention will turn toward practical details the best-case scenario simply is not worth imagining without delving into the worst-case scenario and all the strange practical obstacles that would make the best case scenario unattainable I think that a group of intelligent people having that conversation very soon would veer away from merely reproaching the president estates for not doing what was ideal and would very soon become interested in all the things that make those ideals unattainable um and my channel is one of the few that really wants to get away from merely talking about ideals when we talk about veganism although the ideals are of course still worth preaching I just assumed the type of people who watch this channel the want to be breached you anymore and I think those are the the viewers I keep you know plenty of other channels that are gonna preach the same thing to you again and again you know if you already are vegan you've heard it before if you're not vegan you probably heard it before I don't want here to get better so we gotta tiptoe around these issues sometimes and be very clear when are we talking brass tacks when are we talking about practical issues and what are we talking about real ideals now this video I'm sharing with you today obviously exists in part to promote the YouTube channel this guy j costly i'm going to give you a link you know i'm interested in promoting other vegan channels that are not selling you a diet book that are not selling you a dream they're talking about something real with in veganism whether those are political problems practical problems or otherwise this guy j costly part of his steez is that he's a former zoo employee with a vegan perspective and the reality of what goes on inside of zoos he has an incredibly grim video talking about killing animals inside the zoo killing animals that are fed as meat to the denizens of the zoo i I've never heard any other vegan talk about that aside from myself but you've heard in recent videos where I was saying look every day you keep a tiger alive inside a zoo captive breeding program or a you know a program that's trying to restore them to to living in the welder habitat no matter how well-intentioned the program is where you're keeping tigers in captivity every single day that Tiger is there you're killing cows chickens lambs you're killing other animals in order to keep that tiger alive in captivity so there are some interesting questions of speciesism in practice but of all the videos I chose to feature from Jay's channel just now this one where I've cut it off here he's raising this question of the relationships between humans and dogs being creepy and you know I think that actually is a substantive question and I think it's a reason for all of us as vegans to look in the mirror because the truth is that we we do go around reproaching meat-eaters with the thought that what happens on a dairy farm is creepy now philosophically or politically what's at the root of that claim what does it mean when I tell you that something that is one hundred percent standard procedure on hundreds of thousands of farms involving millions of cows is creepy or unnatural or strange people within the dairy industry often just respond with disabilities what do you mean this is totally normal this is normal in the business that's normal in the industry but we as vegans are stepping forward and trying to make this argument that no business as usual is not normal is not acceptable and in fact it's creepy it's disturbing you know where do baby cows come from how actually are cows on a dairy farm impregnated what actually happens to the calves after they're born that process you know and even the act of drinking milk itself the basic concept that a human being as a biped would be drinking the milk out of a quadrupeds boob we're out there making this argument that's creepy and a court I'm I'm vegan I mean those arguments speak to me I think they're still meaningful worthwhile even if creepiness is not really the most philosophically compelling concept or it's not the most politically discrete concepts or what have you I do i do think that argument has merit and I've made it myself when talking to people face-to-face but of course on the other hand the strong suit the meat eaters have to say back is what no this isn't creepy it's normal millions and millions of people do it and it's a bit bizarre and hilarious to me that you know the responses from vegans justifying pet ownership come down to these same stupid stupid arguments there they're just as dumb and self-righteous as meat eaters justifying what's normal you know my fellow vegans justifying owning of dogs castrating dogs etc now i received an especially disturbing message that I've decided not to read out to you from a vegan dog owner who chose to explain to me and and this was not trolling this is someone who's been a fan of my channel i think for at least a year someone who's written me fan mail over a long period of time and this person you know they're a fan but they also disagree with me on issues this person wrote in boasting boasting that her own pet dogs although they had been castrated still had a normal sexual response and still had orgasms creepy already this is creepy and she as the human owner of these dogs knows this because she provides her dogs on a daily basis with inflatable airline neck pillows that her dogs used to simulate coitus to the point of ejaculation she was not writing this to me uh in agreement with me or saying well I admit this is a bit creepier to stir but no no no no she was writing this to me with all the self-righteousness of an employee the meat and dairy industry saying that no no the way veal crates work is completely normal the way rape racks work is completely normal and by the way the term rape Rack is an industry term it's not a term vegans made up if you look at catalogs of farm equipment you can find illustrations with the term rape rack used to describe the metal racks used for cows okay she was writing to me with the self-righteousness of a narrow-minded person confidently telling you what's normal and from her perspective what's normal is it as a human being not only does she stoop onto the ground and with her hands pick up the feces of a dog on a daily basis the poo of a dog but apparently I guess she gets out some kind of towel and literally wipes up the jizz that her pet dogs ejaculate okay I think it does matter I think the question of creepiness does matter I think the question of whether or not you're willing to examine psychologically what it means to own a companion animal I think it does matter I think there are dimensions to this that really go beyond even the type of demented cruelty that's involved with human slavery and human slavery historically did involve castration in a tiny minority of cases but I me in the vascular cases you have to recognize the reason why slavery was so stable as a social institution was that some slaves had a good quality of life some slaves were happy the same way people can boast that some dogs are happy I've never even disputed that factum that's meaningless as with the justifications for slavery I want to ask the fundamental questions of principle about whether this is right or wrong and then looking ahead i also want to ask the practical and pragmatic questions of how can we have a future where humans and animals live on the same planet and you guys have heard me give my answer to that one of my very first videos on this topic i pointed out look you know when you watch Star Wars or Star Trek or some science-fiction universe you know are there dogs on the Starship Enterprise is our vision of the future one in which the you know enslavement debasement the domestication of animals for food for companionship entertainment is that a perpetual part of our culture for the next 500 years next 1,000 years or do we as vegans see ourselves in a period of transition we're just like we want traditional we want to transition away from being a society that smoke cigarettes we also want to be in a transition that eventually brings about the end of the domestication of animals for me that's not a difficult question answer for me it is not difficult to say in the future I don't think dog should be pet it should be groomed or bread or castrated to be companions to human beings that's I don't know why that would be difficult for any vegan to give that answer but I did have one um one question come in here on YouTube from a longtime fan called twisted hippie he's a fan but again he doesn't mind disagree with me he doesn't mind you know criticizing me when he when he disagrees me which is great certainly welcome and several people commented that they found my answer to his question enlightening that will forever reason they didn't really understand my point to the domestication of animals until they read this um so I'm gonna read it out now I I don't know why that is but many people said this clarified management I agree but on a practical level what do we do with the rescue animals already existing no animals should be forced to live in a human home when it doesn't come close to its natural environment however if the alternative is euthanasia ? right so here's my reply to this guy I believe I have discussed this at sufficient length both on youtube and within patreon vis I agree but on a practical level what do we do with the rescue animals already existing the reality is that vegans don't have an answer for the question of what will we do with all the cows if the slaughterhouse owners suddenly became vegan and refuse to kill them we probably have no good answer as to what to do with farm animals if millions and millions of them suddenly could not be killed and could not be introduced to the wild etc and so pause obviously if even a single large farm owner suddenly declared that he wanted to do the right thing you want to save the lives of all of his cows several thousand cows those cows can't live in the forest what actually would you do as a vegan you personally if you suddenly had several thousand cows in your hands however we can recognize that this is really a spurious and unreasonable argument when meat-eaters raise it so if meteors say this to you as a reproach how can you possibly be vegan given that you have no solution for what to do with these animals today if all the slaughterhouse is closed today if all the meat producing factory farms closed today we can recognize that it's spurious and unreasonable why is it that we have so much difficulty in recognizing a precisely parallel problem in the domestication of animals as pets the end of the cycle of domestication like the end of the cycle of industrialized slaughter has to start somewhere and it has to start with someone I'm asking you sincerely to consider that it starts with us vegans but most of us are in a state of extreme denialism and can't even admit that this is a problem yet I've raised for you guys a whole series of problems we're all I've been trying to do is to get you to admit that they're problematic castration is problematic killing cows to feed dogs is problematic killing lambs the feed cats is problematic and yes even these psychological dimensions of how people live with dogs after those dogs have been castrated train had their will broken had their sex lives taken away from had any chance of an independent life of dignity taken away from them when these dogs have lived their whole lives without ever knowing what it's like to be in a pack what it's ever like never knowing what it's like to be in a forest I have just been saying that this is problematic and the very real hatred and obligee directed towards me but the vast majority of vegans has been manifest and demonstrated all but this is the question I have to ask for you if we as vegans can't just admit that this is a problem and think critically about what direction we're going in the future who can