If you're UGLY, a vegan diet won't help: carnivore diet… ditto.

13 November 2018 [link youtube]


The politics of Vegetable Police, Kasumi Kriss and Henya Mania all boil down to the psychology of being stupid and ugly on the internet (and trying to be famous anyway, in a marketplace crowded by the clever and beautiful).

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HOWEVER, I think I managed to record our conversation with higher audio quality (and better video of my own "side" of the discussion)… so you might want to hang in for my version of this podcast (two hours in length, zero jump-cuts, zero edits). Whichever way you choose to go, here's the link:

[He titled it, simply:] "Effective Vegan Activism w/ Eisel Mazard"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkCtcYMd5u0


Youtube Automatic Transcription

vegetable police is very stupid and he's
very ugly and he lives in a world where tragically I don't say this without sympathy it's easy for me to sympathize them he compares himself to the brotherhood of people on YouTube the Brotherhood of people on Instagram and especially his little demi-monde the Brotherhood of people in Chiang Mai Thailand making money out of YouTube and Instagram who were vegan right that was the category he put himself into and he's the ugliest and he's the stupidest of them all [Music] venez yen so I do not think attention-seeking behavior is evil I think a lot of people perceive what I do in my channel is attention-seeking behavior I think a very small percentage of what I do on my channel is attention scene paper but that's that's fine if I mean I understand people your channel - you put a lot of effort at your videos someone can easily say this guy just wants attention some percentage of what you're doing here and exhibiting yourself on the Internet is what so I just start with that concession now what that have even said I noticed when Kasumi crests showed up at the aunty vegan protest her first anti-vegan protest with sphere edge she stood there and said in English Wow isn't it amazing it's getting so much attention and everything about that that moment and her being there and her tone of voice and saying that I thought that's what this is all about for you and you know I mean I utterly despise vegetable police when we were both in Chiang Mai I offered to meet up with them I offered to have a boxing match with him you know we could share a boxing match I don't mean I don't nobody would have gotten hurt would have done in a gym and I said look why don't we have a boxing match and whoever wins gets to pick one book that the loser has to read and do a book review video of that was my which I think is a cool boxing match yeah and you know he made pro-nazi holocaust denying videos in the past which I criticized him for I thought my criticism was quite mild but I know my criticism really impacted him he really felt hurt that I had criticized him for that you know are you are you surprised you know but I mean that all of that behavior it's attention-getting behavior that guy he had no sincere interest in the history of world war ii he had no sincere interest in the history of fascism or the Holocaust or anything else his interest was in wasn't getting attention which is what I said in my criticism of him you know what motivates Kasumi Cris she is lying to herself much more than she's lying to her audience she claims veganism made her weak I had the screenshots of her bench pressing and deadlifting you know doing these things yeah she was bragging oh I did my personal squatting record deadlifting waggons she had she had whaling as a vegan doing this stuff you know so and now she says when she begin vegan she lost all her muscle tone and you know couldn't lift any weight well you yourself produce video evidence country but what motivates that fundamentally it is attention-seeking behavior so whether you regard that as good or evil is probably irrelevant I think it's kind of I I think it's part of the human condition it is what it is and I know that comes off as tautological in nature but it is what it is like my friends and I my subscribers right I hang out with them and discord all the time and they would tell me how they used to love vegetable police videos way back when because they were original they were different it was something to watch but recently well I'm not recently he's probably been doing this the entire time where he would switch up on his diet and he would say that he's got a problem here he's got a problem there and at the end of it all he would say oh this works amazing this doesn't this works great oh the other one was wrong this is right until next week's episode do you think the social pressure is that these do you think there are first of all do you think that there are social pressures that people like vegetable police and kasumi Chris are going through and if so is that enough for them to stop being vegan I know it's a stupid question look okay I have met women who felt they were ugly because their sister was better-looking than them as life goes on you watching this video may not have been in the situation it will probably have you at some point your life you meet a woman who's really insecure about her looks and is really hung up in hooks and you just kind of don't get it you wonder why and then you meet her sister or you see a family photo of her and her family all together and then all of a sudden ah you get it the point is she never feels that she can be good-looking enough because she's comparing herself to her own sister you know and I've known families like that intellectually also where you know the parents of the family are surgeons and the kid feels always feel stupid and like they haven't accomplished enough compared to their own parents or compared to the older brother so there is a question for most human beings of what standards they may be maybe consciously or unconsciously setting for their own accomplishments vegetable police is very stupid and he's very ugly and he lives in a world where tragically I don't say this without sympathy it's easy for me to sympathize them he compares himself to the brotherhood of people on YouTube the Brotherhood of people on Instagram and especially his little demi-monde the Brotherhood of people in Chiang Mai Thailand making money out of YouTube and Instagram who were vegan right that was the category he put himself into and he's the ugliest and he's the stupidest of them all and he doesn't speak Thai and he can't learn how to speak Thai he can't really do much of anything with his brain he doesn't really have anything to say this is a medium that's very much based on being a good talker he's not really that eloquent or smart or charming or sharp or witty and he's ugly all right and he wants to I mean we've seen this for years he wants to develop big muscles to compensate he wants to be he can't do it I mean he's tried his hardest with you know exercising calisthenics is on so that's really a tragedy that he's trying to act out as a comedy and it is in this in the strictest sense it's it's pathetic now Kasumi crests I wouldn't call her ugly but she does she does have a really terrible problem with acne and you know she's finally been putting up pictures of what she looks like when she was guys so I'm sure she feels especially ashamed of her looks it's really really serious extreme acne guys I sympathize but you know so she struggles with acne she struggles with feeling ugly and again she looks at her competition she looks at her brothers and sisters on YouTube and Instagram and she feels a lot of inferiority so that's the struggle I mean that's the struggle psychologically and for those people these two you mentioned I think for thousands of others of the most visible people in the vegan movement and most visible people and Instagram and YouTube generally that's the kind of psychology that bring to it that's the kind of competition er struggled around and not the struggle is not to save the planet the struggle is not to lobby government for social change I mean it's not that's not what they see themselves right and you know and one other one of the one dimension let's let's just you a little bit more of a sympathetic example so hennya of Hannya mania she started out being someone like your friend Maria hennya started out being a really firebrand street protest street theater activist kind of person and you know she obviously struggles with her weight struggles with her looks she was born with a condition where she has really terrible teeth she's talked about that she's born with some kind of digestive disorder she's a long history of psychiatric problems and getting on various antidepressants she's all these problems and she comes on YouTube and she feels like she's suddenly in a competition for who's the prettiest and who's the smartest and she seemed to completely lose her moral compass and sense of purpose in terms of vegan activism which in her case she did have at the beginning she was a legitimate activist at the stars and by the end of it she's just another vape 'add you know two dimensional plastic you know kind of aspiring beauty icon permanent vacation Instagram model figure so there's a range of these things but yeah that's that's my um that's my psychological rather than putting it political analysis of what's what's going on there it's hard it's hard to get attention and vegetable police is a guy who will even temporarily become a neo-nazi to get attention a virus yen