The Inuit! Jordan Peterson & Joe Rogan must be right. #Science #Vegan #Carnivore
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I get email like this I get messages
like this I get hate mail like this probably you hear this stuff from your friends neighbors and relatives oh well I don't know Canada's native people Canada's Inuit they they were all perfectly healthy back when they were eating a diet of absolutely nothing but meat and fish and whale blubber it's just so convincing and yet it seems that nobody on either side is ever convinced people invoke this memory of what the Inuit supposedly represent and then they continue to eat hamburgers at McDonald's they continue to eat factory farmed beef did the Inuit eat cows did anybody hamburgers like even if you found this line of reasoning convincing it would inspire you to reject a vegan diet to reject a vegetarian diet to reject the kind of moderate science based on the war diet you'd have to adopt a diet incredibly expensive and difficult to sustain but wait wait wait let's take a step back and actually use some empirical and scientific methods here's the kind of greatest hits of factual arguments for the next 15 minutes from a channel you may not know called plant positive this guy did a lot of work putting forward a lot of facts that are quite annoying to cobble together some good old-fashioned books it's really a great shame that his YouTube channel never did a collaboration with somebody like Mike the vegan or other health and science-based YouTube channels guys YouTube is a place where information comes to be broadcast but it's also unfortunately a place where information comes to die so I'm making this video partly to promote awareness of this nail long forgotten YouTube channel shadow to plant positive we're lucky to have this old issue of National Geographic it has an article about the discovery of two female mummies around 440 years old discovered near Point Barrow far inside the Arctic Circle if there had ever been a perfect time and place to be naturally low-carb this was it one mummy had been in her early 40s the other in her 20s just as we would expect of people living in such a hostile frigid place the remains showed evidence of stress despite their young ages they showed evidence of atherosclerosis a type of hardening of the arteries they also suffered from osteoporosis or the degradation of their bones a painful parasitic infection was apparent as well all this could be called the inevitable result of a diet of mostly raw animal carcasses this is the coronary artery of an even older female mummy than the two in the National Geographic issue in this case from around 400 AD we see pronounced atherosclerosis this is natural cardiovascular health the low-carb way long before refined carbs what we see here are effectively long term studies of an animal-based why is traditions diet and the results are not pretty we see evidence of heart disease weak bones and parasitic infections let's look at these three problems a bit more closely in Eskimos starting with their cardiovascular disease early in the Paleo diet Loren Cordain tells us the Greenland Eskimos were exemplars of heart health referencing the work of bong and Dyer Berg this is a less than ideal reference for a man who argues that lower cholesterol is better bong and Dyer Berg found that the Greenland Eskimos had what we would call today borderline high cholesterol levels to whatever extent they may have been protected from heart attacks bon and dire Berg said it was likely because of the extremely high levels of omega-3 fatty acids they consumed they thought the price for this protection was their higher rate of stroke which Cordain fails to mention the myth of low cardiovascular disease among Eskimos was examined by these researchers they found heart disease was not less common in Eskimos than in whites mortality from stroke was higher however I'll mentioned here that I will use the terms Eskimo and Inuit interchangeably in these videos those researchers also found a reliable old testimonial indicating the cardiovascular disease was actually quite common for these people this website did the fact-checking for us I recommend you visit it and read this blog post I'll just borrow enough of their material here to show you that they certainly did not have low cholesterol and more importantly they had horrible life expectancy the perspective of the author's here is that higher cholesterol is better so obviously I don't agree with their take on this for the Ancel keys detractors out there it's worth the mention that this pioneer of heart health was aware of the Eskimo diet he was also aware of their tragically short life expectancy here is more evidence of heart trouble among the Eskimos between 1956 and 1958 the bodies of Eskimos were autopsy for this study hardening of the arteries was observed to be quite common more recently a large cohort of Eskimos were studied despite favorable lipid profiles rates of stroke and cardiovascular disease were high notice they carried a high pathogen burden that brings us to another problem created by their traditional diet parasitic infections Eskimos certainly had them here you see a 1950 record of the prevalence of intestinal parasites among them this is inevitable if you are routinely consuming raw untreated fish and meat these parasites would have had the effect of lowering their blood cholesterol doctors Eden and Cordain should have clued you in on this don't you think circumpolar natives had high infection rates of one notorious parasite Toxoplasma the Inuit were the most afflicted group in this study with 72% of their pregnant women infected what about the osteoporosis observed in those eskimo mummies this paleo pathologist attributed that to their high-protein diet extreme protein intake is fingered for blame here as well bone mineral content and Eskimos was assessed as deficient in the 1974 study the Eskimos compared poorly to whites who presumably were eating a lot more carbs than the Eskimos were so as their high protein intake really the best explanation for their weak bones there are conflicting studies regarding the effects of high-protein diets on bone health however the evidence is more clear that dietary saturated fat is highly damaging to bones this has been demonstrated through animal experimentation Eskimos are a curious choice of dietary model for paleo dieters and CrossFitters it is in the interest of those in cold climates to have more insulating body fat Eskimos were long ago considered unusually short and overweight they were not considered to be physically strong either they were observed to age poorly as well this is usually not an openly stated goal for fad diets descriptions of Eskimos from the 19th century can be uncomfortable to read these unflattering descriptions wouldn't be worth reviewing if Eskimos weren't presented as a model for us today traditional Eskimos had other health problems as well they have been afflicted by some cancers for example a century ago reports stated otherwise but they were later shown to be inaccurate any observed low occurrence of cancer soon was understood to be only the result of infectious diseases which ended their lives before cancers had a chance to develop Eskimos actually have some of the world's highest rates of certain cancers here is a graph that a cancer was also identified in the remains of an extinct paleo Eskimo perhaps some of that can be explained by the toxins in their food supply eating such fatty food so far up the food chain is bound to convey environmental contaminants into these people inuit milk contained up to ten times the level of assistant organochlorine compounds as found in the milk of women in Quebec these authors say Inuit women have the highest known body burdens of these pollutants more evidence that Eskimos of the old days aren't ideal models for health comes from this doctors account from 1935 of his services to them this is sometimes reference to argue that they were especially healthy but such a reading requires ignoring some key passages in this one children were said to frequently die after eating meat that had begun to spoil he said Eskimos also commonly suffered from appendicitis Eskimos called this rotten guts higher rates of appendicitis and other cultures have been linked to increased meat eating my final slide for the Eskimos brings us back to our mummies here you see that all those omega-3 fatty acids don't seem to help Eskimos keep plaque out of their arteries for the Eskimos just like everyone else saturated fat causes atherosclerosis here is Loren Cordain claiming that the Inuit had a low rate of coronary disease as verified by autopsy studies remember he thought there could be a meat-based non atherogenic diet one reference here to support his claim is gotten in 1960 this reference was also put forth by some of the original Paleo diet promoters Boyd Eaton and Melvin Conner rather than take their word for it let's look at the actual paper as you see Gottman is the author did Corday not see the passage on the right Gottman says there was a 40-year old woman with calcified arteries 40 is way too young for such a thing dr. Cordain where do you get your low standards this calcification is what happens during heart disease donman also mentioned a 41 year old man who suffered a stroke due to plaque formation and he too had diseased arteries 41 isn't old to me dr. Cordain would Godman have guessed that his paper would be used one day to say that these people were unusually healthy did Court they not see his statement that the conclusion of this author is that cardiovascular disease if an arteriosclerotic type is not uncommon among the Eskimos or Indians in Alaska I am continually astounded by the misrepresentation of the old research by these imaginative low-carb errs Godman remarked that the bodies he autopsy tended to be quite young only 5% were over 50 years old most were under 20 you can imagine how tough life must have been for them back then another reference Cordain used to support his claim of a low rate of heart disease among the Inuit was B era guard and Dyer burg which is on the fifth line down this one also found a high rate of stroke like Godman these authors cautioned that their research shouldn't be over interpreted the validity of Greenlandic mortality statistics is not high they said we have yet more weak data and yet another weak reference can you believe the low-carb errs think these studies are worth more than the China study these authors were quite clear that they thought the Marine diet of these Innuit caused a shift in risk away from heart disease and towards strokes this study is an especially odd choice for Cordain because it so directly contradicts his paper and his beliefs the authors say clearly that any impression of a lower rate of ischemic heart disease among these into it does not give a correct picture because they died at such high rates from other things in other words other things happen to kill them first before heart disease could get its chance but that isn't the best part here you see that their mortality from heart disease had actually declined as they left their paleo lifestyle and lived in towns eating non paleo foods dr. Cordain is not a cardiologist and that is probably why he doesn't think cholesterol scores in the 300 to 400 range at the high end are especially high I can assure you however that that is high cholesterol mean cholesterol for all men over 20 was above 200 they definitely aren't relatively low compared to vegans Innuit cholesterol was found to be higher than what was seen in the United States and remember the United States was having a major problem with coronary disease then in 1990 a study was done comparing Native Greenlanders to Danes to try to account for the lower reported rates of heart disease among the Greenlanders using ultrasonographer they found that they had almost the same degree of atherosclerosis as the Danes they stated that atherosclerosis was probably generally present among these intimate to a similar extent as for Caucasians they did find it plausible that there might be a factor in their diets which may have lowered their rate of infarction you now know this was likely due to their high fish consumption which also probably contributed to their higher rate of stroke all that fish consumption also explains why their bodily toxin burdens were high in this study one of the main predictors of high bodily contaminant concentrations was their markers of omega-3 fatty acids from fish more fish more toxins was the finding here here a detailed examination was conducted of several other mummies these dated from around 1475 thanks to fortuitous discoveries like this I can inform you about the preserved bodies of people who lived in environments as carbohydrate free as is naturally possible they were not eating any grains or beans here you see at the top left that arterial plaque was found in one mummy he also had very weak bones a common theme for these old mummies their diet seemed to have been very damaging to their bone health on the right you can see that a child was also found to poor bone quality as well as possible birth defects at the top you can see that their high-protein diets led to the development of a kidney stone in one money again their lives must have been quite hard I hear that kidney stones are awful on the right you can see that this paleo pathologist was certain he discovered evidence of a malignant cancer in one body he said that this form of cancer was also common in modern times among circumpolar people's with all that said I will affirm for the Western price foundation fans that they had no tooth decay if that happens to be your highest health priority poor bone status has been observed among these people in more recent times these researchers blamed their poor bone health on their high-protein low calcium diets these researchers thought a comparison with vegetarians was appropriate as well remarking that vegetarians seemed to have better bone health than omnivores when you put all this together I don't think the take-home message should be that these people were or are in any way lesser than anyone else historic circumpolar peoples were challenged in life in ways that very few of us are today their survival alone is to be admired my point here is that there is no reason to look to them as models of good health for us [Music]
like this I get hate mail like this probably you hear this stuff from your friends neighbors and relatives oh well I don't know Canada's native people Canada's Inuit they they were all perfectly healthy back when they were eating a diet of absolutely nothing but meat and fish and whale blubber it's just so convincing and yet it seems that nobody on either side is ever convinced people invoke this memory of what the Inuit supposedly represent and then they continue to eat hamburgers at McDonald's they continue to eat factory farmed beef did the Inuit eat cows did anybody hamburgers like even if you found this line of reasoning convincing it would inspire you to reject a vegan diet to reject a vegetarian diet to reject the kind of moderate science based on the war diet you'd have to adopt a diet incredibly expensive and difficult to sustain but wait wait wait let's take a step back and actually use some empirical and scientific methods here's the kind of greatest hits of factual arguments for the next 15 minutes from a channel you may not know called plant positive this guy did a lot of work putting forward a lot of facts that are quite annoying to cobble together some good old-fashioned books it's really a great shame that his YouTube channel never did a collaboration with somebody like Mike the vegan or other health and science-based YouTube channels guys YouTube is a place where information comes to be broadcast but it's also unfortunately a place where information comes to die so I'm making this video partly to promote awareness of this nail long forgotten YouTube channel shadow to plant positive we're lucky to have this old issue of National Geographic it has an article about the discovery of two female mummies around 440 years old discovered near Point Barrow far inside the Arctic Circle if there had ever been a perfect time and place to be naturally low-carb this was it one mummy had been in her early 40s the other in her 20s just as we would expect of people living in such a hostile frigid place the remains showed evidence of stress despite their young ages they showed evidence of atherosclerosis a type of hardening of the arteries they also suffered from osteoporosis or the degradation of their bones a painful parasitic infection was apparent as well all this could be called the inevitable result of a diet of mostly raw animal carcasses this is the coronary artery of an even older female mummy than the two in the National Geographic issue in this case from around 400 AD we see pronounced atherosclerosis this is natural cardiovascular health the low-carb way long before refined carbs what we see here are effectively long term studies of an animal-based why is traditions diet and the results are not pretty we see evidence of heart disease weak bones and parasitic infections let's look at these three problems a bit more closely in Eskimos starting with their cardiovascular disease early in the Paleo diet Loren Cordain tells us the Greenland Eskimos were exemplars of heart health referencing the work of bong and Dyer Berg this is a less than ideal reference for a man who argues that lower cholesterol is better bong and Dyer Berg found that the Greenland Eskimos had what we would call today borderline high cholesterol levels to whatever extent they may have been protected from heart attacks bon and dire Berg said it was likely because of the extremely high levels of omega-3 fatty acids they consumed they thought the price for this protection was their higher rate of stroke which Cordain fails to mention the myth of low cardiovascular disease among Eskimos was examined by these researchers they found heart disease was not less common in Eskimos than in whites mortality from stroke was higher however I'll mentioned here that I will use the terms Eskimo and Inuit interchangeably in these videos those researchers also found a reliable old testimonial indicating the cardiovascular disease was actually quite common for these people this website did the fact-checking for us I recommend you visit it and read this blog post I'll just borrow enough of their material here to show you that they certainly did not have low cholesterol and more importantly they had horrible life expectancy the perspective of the author's here is that higher cholesterol is better so obviously I don't agree with their take on this for the Ancel keys detractors out there it's worth the mention that this pioneer of heart health was aware of the Eskimo diet he was also aware of their tragically short life expectancy here is more evidence of heart trouble among the Eskimos between 1956 and 1958 the bodies of Eskimos were autopsy for this study hardening of the arteries was observed to be quite common more recently a large cohort of Eskimos were studied despite favorable lipid profiles rates of stroke and cardiovascular disease were high notice they carried a high pathogen burden that brings us to another problem created by their traditional diet parasitic infections Eskimos certainly had them here you see a 1950 record of the prevalence of intestinal parasites among them this is inevitable if you are routinely consuming raw untreated fish and meat these parasites would have had the effect of lowering their blood cholesterol doctors Eden and Cordain should have clued you in on this don't you think circumpolar natives had high infection rates of one notorious parasite Toxoplasma the Inuit were the most afflicted group in this study with 72% of their pregnant women infected what about the osteoporosis observed in those eskimo mummies this paleo pathologist attributed that to their high-protein diet extreme protein intake is fingered for blame here as well bone mineral content and Eskimos was assessed as deficient in the 1974 study the Eskimos compared poorly to whites who presumably were eating a lot more carbs than the Eskimos were so as their high protein intake really the best explanation for their weak bones there are conflicting studies regarding the effects of high-protein diets on bone health however the evidence is more clear that dietary saturated fat is highly damaging to bones this has been demonstrated through animal experimentation Eskimos are a curious choice of dietary model for paleo dieters and CrossFitters it is in the interest of those in cold climates to have more insulating body fat Eskimos were long ago considered unusually short and overweight they were not considered to be physically strong either they were observed to age poorly as well this is usually not an openly stated goal for fad diets descriptions of Eskimos from the 19th century can be uncomfortable to read these unflattering descriptions wouldn't be worth reviewing if Eskimos weren't presented as a model for us today traditional Eskimos had other health problems as well they have been afflicted by some cancers for example a century ago reports stated otherwise but they were later shown to be inaccurate any observed low occurrence of cancer soon was understood to be only the result of infectious diseases which ended their lives before cancers had a chance to develop Eskimos actually have some of the world's highest rates of certain cancers here is a graph that a cancer was also identified in the remains of an extinct paleo Eskimo perhaps some of that can be explained by the toxins in their food supply eating such fatty food so far up the food chain is bound to convey environmental contaminants into these people inuit milk contained up to ten times the level of assistant organochlorine compounds as found in the milk of women in Quebec these authors say Inuit women have the highest known body burdens of these pollutants more evidence that Eskimos of the old days aren't ideal models for health comes from this doctors account from 1935 of his services to them this is sometimes reference to argue that they were especially healthy but such a reading requires ignoring some key passages in this one children were said to frequently die after eating meat that had begun to spoil he said Eskimos also commonly suffered from appendicitis Eskimos called this rotten guts higher rates of appendicitis and other cultures have been linked to increased meat eating my final slide for the Eskimos brings us back to our mummies here you see that all those omega-3 fatty acids don't seem to help Eskimos keep plaque out of their arteries for the Eskimos just like everyone else saturated fat causes atherosclerosis here is Loren Cordain claiming that the Inuit had a low rate of coronary disease as verified by autopsy studies remember he thought there could be a meat-based non atherogenic diet one reference here to support his claim is gotten in 1960 this reference was also put forth by some of the original Paleo diet promoters Boyd Eaton and Melvin Conner rather than take their word for it let's look at the actual paper as you see Gottman is the author did Corday not see the passage on the right Gottman says there was a 40-year old woman with calcified arteries 40 is way too young for such a thing dr. Cordain where do you get your low standards this calcification is what happens during heart disease donman also mentioned a 41 year old man who suffered a stroke due to plaque formation and he too had diseased arteries 41 isn't old to me dr. Cordain would Godman have guessed that his paper would be used one day to say that these people were unusually healthy did Court they not see his statement that the conclusion of this author is that cardiovascular disease if an arteriosclerotic type is not uncommon among the Eskimos or Indians in Alaska I am continually astounded by the misrepresentation of the old research by these imaginative low-carb errs Godman remarked that the bodies he autopsy tended to be quite young only 5% were over 50 years old most were under 20 you can imagine how tough life must have been for them back then another reference Cordain used to support his claim of a low rate of heart disease among the Inuit was B era guard and Dyer burg which is on the fifth line down this one also found a high rate of stroke like Godman these authors cautioned that their research shouldn't be over interpreted the validity of Greenlandic mortality statistics is not high they said we have yet more weak data and yet another weak reference can you believe the low-carb errs think these studies are worth more than the China study these authors were quite clear that they thought the Marine diet of these Innuit caused a shift in risk away from heart disease and towards strokes this study is an especially odd choice for Cordain because it so directly contradicts his paper and his beliefs the authors say clearly that any impression of a lower rate of ischemic heart disease among these into it does not give a correct picture because they died at such high rates from other things in other words other things happen to kill them first before heart disease could get its chance but that isn't the best part here you see that their mortality from heart disease had actually declined as they left their paleo lifestyle and lived in towns eating non paleo foods dr. Cordain is not a cardiologist and that is probably why he doesn't think cholesterol scores in the 300 to 400 range at the high end are especially high I can assure you however that that is high cholesterol mean cholesterol for all men over 20 was above 200 they definitely aren't relatively low compared to vegans Innuit cholesterol was found to be higher than what was seen in the United States and remember the United States was having a major problem with coronary disease then in 1990 a study was done comparing Native Greenlanders to Danes to try to account for the lower reported rates of heart disease among the Greenlanders using ultrasonographer they found that they had almost the same degree of atherosclerosis as the Danes they stated that atherosclerosis was probably generally present among these intimate to a similar extent as for Caucasians they did find it plausible that there might be a factor in their diets which may have lowered their rate of infarction you now know this was likely due to their high fish consumption which also probably contributed to their higher rate of stroke all that fish consumption also explains why their bodily toxin burdens were high in this study one of the main predictors of high bodily contaminant concentrations was their markers of omega-3 fatty acids from fish more fish more toxins was the finding here here a detailed examination was conducted of several other mummies these dated from around 1475 thanks to fortuitous discoveries like this I can inform you about the preserved bodies of people who lived in environments as carbohydrate free as is naturally possible they were not eating any grains or beans here you see at the top left that arterial plaque was found in one mummy he also had very weak bones a common theme for these old mummies their diet seemed to have been very damaging to their bone health on the right you can see that a child was also found to poor bone quality as well as possible birth defects at the top you can see that their high-protein diets led to the development of a kidney stone in one money again their lives must have been quite hard I hear that kidney stones are awful on the right you can see that this paleo pathologist was certain he discovered evidence of a malignant cancer in one body he said that this form of cancer was also common in modern times among circumpolar people's with all that said I will affirm for the Western price foundation fans that they had no tooth decay if that happens to be your highest health priority poor bone status has been observed among these people in more recent times these researchers blamed their poor bone health on their high-protein low calcium diets these researchers thought a comparison with vegetarians was appropriate as well remarking that vegetarians seemed to have better bone health than omnivores when you put all this together I don't think the take-home message should be that these people were or are in any way lesser than anyone else historic circumpolar peoples were challenged in life in ways that very few of us are today their survival alone is to be admired my point here is that there is no reason to look to them as models of good health for us [Music]