Putting Vegan Gains IN PRISON in 2022.

no intro no outro just real talk if you haven't heard me say this before stick around watch the channel you're gonna hear me say it again vagueness is the enemy of good and evil alike i'm so sick and tired of people coming on the internet and trying to ruin one another's lives with allegations that are so vague that they can neither be true nor false they can neither be good nor evil they're just vague people line up for their opportunity to get on camera or just get behind the keyboard on twitter and make up allegations that are so vague that nobody can ever clear their name and on the other hand the people who actually join in the orgy of hatred and denunciation 21st century phenomenon of canceled culture they rarely can say with any certainty what it is they are denouncing and canceling someone else for they're cancelling someone just for being a predator they're canceling someone for for being a misogynist they're canceling someone for being a dangerous despicable person in terms so vague that they never can be specified all right we all have to challenge ourselves not just to speak with precision but i think also to calibrate the allegations we make against other people now if i say that i think vegan gains is a terrible person in what sense precisely do i mean as a terrible person and how how terrible are we really talking about here let's say something if i found out that my sister were getting married to richard that my sister were gonna settle down and get married to vegan gains i'd be concerned i'd be concerned for her safety i i wouldn't just try to warn her i wouldn't just talk her through look do you know about this guy's various red flags do you know about his various mental problems do you know about his record do you know about all the videos he used to have on youtube that have been deleted and that he now lies about in retrospect you know do you know about the evidence of what kind of guy this is and what what is getting yourself into sure you know if my sister were gonna get married to vegan gains i would have grave doubts that she would be alive just five years from now and i would have doubts that richard himself would be alive five years from now he is someone who's been teetering on the brink of a range of both destructive and self-destructive behaviors the scariest part being that he's become less and less honest about it over time more and more deceptive and manipulative about it over time i was talking about richard on this channel at least five years ago maybe it's closer to seven and eight years ago now and one of the things i used to be able to say in his favor is well look he's got a lot of problems there are a lot of things wrong with him but at least he's really honest and i can't say that for richard anymore now i can say he's got a lot of problems and he's being dishonest and manipulative about all of them and uh those of you who are cursed with a long memory will know will know the extent to which he's lying about what he said and why in videos of of just a few years ago now a couple things that are interesting to me just in the first two or three minutes of this dialogue that's been shared with the public today between uh richard and uh this comedian uh god now forgot isaac what is it isaac butterfield that's it you know um isaac asks richard why he is so cruel to other people i'm changing the wording slightly here and i'm omitting swear words and curse words that come up in the original but he asked richard in fact why are you such a terrible person other people and richard's answer is that he believes all other people are more terrible still this is a philosophy you're going to counter again and again which is people justifying their own cruelty by projecting their own negative traits onto others and claiming that they're universal or even claiming that if they're not terrible and cruel and violent violent other people those other people will be first this is a very crude very childlike form of psychological projection now to my knowledge that issue the the conversation doesn't go down that rabbit hole any soon but let's let's do this now just myself uh uh with my audience yes so someone who's seen the video is filling in the the blanks for what the curse words are someone says isaac used another c word yes yeah he's saying to richard in fact why are you so cruel to your to your fellow human beings and richard says back not in precise of these words that he believes all other human beings or even worse okay well you know what richard if my sister were going to get married to james aspie i wouldn't be concerned i wouldn't be you know i'm a critic of james aspie i think there are a lot of things wrong with james aspie i can sit here and criticize james assby's approach to vegan activism i can sit here and criticize uh james aspey's approach to youtube content creation zero budget filmmaking wherever you wanna put there are things i really disagree with james asked about if my sister were getting married to james aspie i have no concerns whatsoever right if my sister were getting married to richard we're getting married to opinions i'd be afraid for her life okay and and as i say to be fair i'm afraid for richard's life too you guys can sit here and ask yourself do you really think richard burgess do you really think vegan gains is going to be live just just five years from now my answer is maybe you know um i've made many videos criticizing dorian ryder during writer is another would-be leader of the vegan movement very eccentric guy i have made videos criticizing gary yourofsky deeply flawed character all these people there's a lot wrong with them so a lot wrong with gary yourofsky it's a lot wrong with durianriders a lot wrong with aaron janus of the people who are leaders of the vegan movement there's a lot wrong with these people okay i've got to tell you something richard it's completely ridiculous for you to say that everyone else is just as as terrible a person or worse that everyone is more cruel than you are that everyone is more terrible than you are and therefore you're justified in behaving the way you do towards others or therefore you don't you don't even question it um if we were to put these people on a spectrum like i don't know you guys can decide you know so one of the spectrum we have richard we have vegan gains and i know who you put the others better the the degrees of how terrible these people are well you know again there's a lot wrong with gary armscape we've seen gary yourofsky have a number of kind of manic breakdowns on camera we've seen him make a number of frankly violent rants we have we've seen gary yourofsky talking about killing people violence terrorism we've seen him crack put it that way you know um we've seen him go a little bit crazy on camera and i have my criticism of the guy all these people i can find fault with them all right richard you're worse and you know what the tragedy is richard i think you know that you're worse i think you know that when you wake up in the morning and look in the mirror that you are not even as good a person as james aspie this is not to compare yourself to some unimpeachably high standard of virtue or intellectual self-discipline or intelligence or anything else i think you richard struggle with the real sense of inferiority even in comparing yourself to other vegan youtubers other opinion leaders in this movement other youtubers who are in the same category so and if there is one person on youtube that you remind me of richard in your philosophy in your justification of doing unto others because you assume that they would do the same thing to you you assume that they would be just as terrible they'd be just called there's only one youtuber i can think of who has this philosophy and commentary richard and that's spirit spheroid i think properly pronounced sphea something like this you know what i'm saying uh spiridge as he is known in english as his name is mr sandwich is an anti-vegan flat earth youtuber conspiracy theory believing youtuber how to summarize his content he advocates for eating raw meat extremely eccentric character his philosophy is that you should not treat other people the way you would want them to treat you all right that you should on the contrary be cruel to others because he says the only way that you can be happy is through hurting others that's his philosophy and it's his fundamental justification for killing animals whether that's killing them to eat them alive to eat them raw or to eat them cook he sees the fate of mankind on earth as a perpetual process of cruelty and that it is only through cruelty that your own vitality can be increased your own energy as he likes to put it he uses some of this kind of hippie verbiage is increased by cruelty to animals inflicting suffering on animals and cruelty to your your fellow man to other uh human beings that's his view of human nature now okay you tell me richard you know is your philosophy so different like this challenge you were given by isaac butterfield philosophical and intellectual giant that he is isaac butterfield isaac butterfield challenges you by saying look you know why do you treat other people this way and your answer is that you think they deserve to be treated that way because they're they're just as terrible a person as the people the other people in the world everyone else in the world actually said that everyone else is an even more terrible person than that he is himself well you know what about a really simple challenge to that like do unto others as you'd have them do unto you that's by no means a rule we can all implement universally in life we can't treat the taliban in afghanistan the way we would like the taliban to treat us there are limits to this there are you know but as as a very broad open-ended question we can ask what what about that richard what is your answer to that puzzle the puzzle of doing unto others as you'd have been doing to you i think his answer to that puzzle is fundamentally the same as the spirit just i think his answer is a an ethic and a philosophy of cruelty and that he feels even if he can't quite uh give voice to it in the direct and honest way that that spirit does he he feels that he has to be cruel to others um not just to make himself happy but just to stop himself from feeling miserable and i do think that's why at a very young age he got into cruel and sadistic forms of bdsm that is why at a young age as he has described himself he got into acts of violence against other boys i can't even say other young men which he has himself described and i don't have to uh well someone in the audience just said richard is a sociopath i'm going to tell you the truth i don't believe the word sociopath means anything more than a uh stereotype of human behavior it's it's a it's a set of stereotypes i don't think it's medically real you know what i mean but i think it's significant that richard in reflecting on his own life that he decided that he was a sociopath that was his self-assessment and there's no doubt that his own experience with violence with cruelty to others and with bdsm and so on with his struggles with his own sexuality that was all part of that that self diagnosis now the very next topic that comes up in this debate can i call it a debate this discussion between richard and and uh isaac butterfield is that isaac says to him somewhat incoherently with no particularly smooth segue or transition he says look you know when i disagree with you about these things and your first reply or your immediate response is to challenge me to a fist fight just challenge me to mine once you know he said you know don't you realize that that makes you sound like a three-year-old no obviously slightly paraphrasing here interesting it ain't deep but it's real if you guys have been watching my youtube channel since it started you will know at the very beginning i made a lot of videos talking about buddhism as a religion and buddhist philosophy never had a buddhist monk appear on the channel to debate me never never once never had a professor of buddhism never had a member of the religion like a lay buddhist why do you why why do you think nobody in the buddhist religion wants to debate me i had youtube videos i had no articles some of them peer-reviewed articles but articles backed up with research and citations and years of study of the ancient scripture language i knew a lot about buddhism isn't that funny now what do you think it would accomplish if i were to imitate richard's method and make youtube videos or otherwise reach out to people shout them out or send them email demanding that they have a fistfight with me demanding they have a cage fight if i were not just trying to debate them or trying to challenge an issue but i was threatening to beat them up if i were insulting and reviling them and saying they don't really believe what they say they believe or they they can't really back up their position debate because they won't fight me and if you know i'm not gonna use the same curse words he uses but he uses all kinds of words to insult people's strength and manliness because they won't fight him again richard has a lot in common with spirit we can turn this around on the one hand you know i can ask you hypothetically well what if a buddhist did try to debate me let's say a buddhist monk in robes who's been to university has a university degree in buddhist studies and i respond to him by saying no you're wrong you should fight me in a cage match no you're wrong fist fight like immediate resort to violence and then and if you don't if you back down if you're afraid you know then the insults ensue what if that were how i were instigating or settling disputes with representatives of the buddhist faith myself as a kind of skeptic i suppose you'd say in relation to buddhism now i use the buddhist monk as an example uh sam harris i've made some videos with by the way if you search my channel for sam harris i still think those videos are worth watching um i made videos very harshly criticizing what sam harris says about meditation what he says about hinduism what he says about buddhism i stand by all those videos again sadly they're still important to this day okay did i ever once challenge sam harris to a fist fight or a cage match does that make my position look stronger or weaker and as sam butterfield sorry sam butterfield isaac butterfield said you know simply enough wouldn't that make me look like a three-year-old if i were saying sam harris you're wrong you're wrong about buddhism and i'm right you're wrong about meditation i'm right you're wrong about hinduism and i'm right you're wrong about atheism and i'm right through whatever i have disagreements with and you know if you don't meet me in a boxing arena and a cage match how about another inversion what if i get an email tomorrow from a buddhist monk who says that he doesn't like what i have to say about buddhism in my videos and he's the one challenging me to a boxing match he says i'm wrong and he's been practicing kung fu for 20 years i have to imagine this maybe he's been taking steroids who knows you know this is a roided out kung fu master buddhist monk who does his own stunts in movies and he wants to beat me up to settle disputes all right now how does richard respond to this challenge from isaac butterfield again i'm sorry i do really think this is worth dwelling on even though it's five seconds out of an hour-long tape and i don't want to talk about the rest of it i don't even want to watch the rest i don't challenged in this way richard responds by saying that it wasn't a fist fight in the sense of a fight on the street like being assaulted illegally on the street uh being mugged richard says that it was a cage match in an arena and therefore it's no different from challenging someone to a running race to a foot race like cucumber and isaac butterfield to his credit you know how do you think he responds do you think you're supposed to be oh wow that's a really good point you know that's a real point you know what i actually know a buddhist philosophy channel and they disagreed about buddhist philosophy these two guys and so they had a race and that settled that that's really yeah that's great they met at a track and field stadium and they ran hurdles they did the long jump like you know uh like okay so your your point is to shift the emphasis from violence over to this being a sporting competition now they do get into the fact that it's not just a sporting competition in fact it reflects what richard says about himself all the time that he has violent fantasies about hurting these people that he wants to hurt these people he wants to punch them in the face i've heard him say more graphic things about the harm he wants to the people that he has these violent fantasies and violent urges which he shares with his audience liberally he doesn't feel any need to constrain or or censor himself so it's not it's not the same as challenging to a foot race and you could have challenged him to a [ __ ] race you could have challenged him to rowing a boat and you didn't and but setting that aside that very good point aside that tells you a lot about richard and tells you why you might be worried to have your sister marry the guy isaac restates the same premise and it's just as true he says oh well yeah but can't you recognize that if two people are having a dispute about an ethical issue about an intellectual issue about a political issue if two people are debating or disputing something and one of them says together yeah well i challenge you to a foot race i challenge race then that also sounds like a three-year-old child now from my perspective the saddest part of all is that if richard were pressing this argument against someone else he would recognize all of these things i think richard could very easily revile and insult someone else by trying to win an argument through a fist fight instead of actually being right or wrong if you have a really long memory i think for the first year of his channel there was one situation like that where there was a bodybuilder who challenged him to a fight and it was richard who wasn't so interested in uh getting into the rank and so on uh you know um i think if the shoe were on the other foot if positions were reversed or something these same arguments that isaac is presenting to richard richard could himself be offering other people but it's him it's his ego so he can't and he won't he can't see any fault in what it is that he's doing himself so i do have some uh i do have some comments coming in from the audience here quote vegan gains doesn't debate he argues the debate consists of listening to the other side's facts uh and he just talks over people instead of actually debating you know um i think this comes back to the first point made in this video all right richard is himself stupid richard is himself ignorant richard is himself poorly read i don't think he would ever even claim to be a well-read person he reads japanese comic books and they're either erotic comic books or incredibly violent comic books i mean you know the comic books he's reading are not uh tremendously intellectually stimulating you know um richard's sense of self-confidence is based on this childlike projection that everyone else is even stupider than he is that everyone else is even more immoral than he is and that therefore he has to punish them therefore he's in a position of snubbing them and you know rubbing their faces in the dirt and so on and that's that's what comes out i feel in his debates he copes with it in different ways it's not it's not always the same but you know even when he's trying to be kind to people which sometimes he does you can see him fuming you know you can see this sense of real uh this sense of sort of fictitious superiority that he that he clings to now look sorry so there's some more more comments here about the nature of debate and how what vegan gains is doing wrong with debates let me ask you guys you know what is the point of a debate you know why debate when joe biden stood up and had a debate with donald trump there wasn't a single moment in which donald trump said you know what that's a good idea you're right you know you know what i've changed my mind you know you make it compelling not once you know um no obviously i'm not going to tell you there's absolutely no point to a debate but i'm here trying to suggest to you that the purpose for a debate the benefit of what can be had from a debate it's not what people pretend it is it's really not okay so someone here says quote sociopaths are real it's a mental disorder it's true that me people misuse the term but richard shows all the signs so tell you what i think is real uh higarashi presuming that is your name i think that when someone dies you can perform an autopsy on them right and if there is a visible malformation in the brain that's real i have met and spoken to several people who had in that sense physically real biologically real mental disorders um [Music] psychopathy sociopathy being a sociopath these are stereotypes they are cultural stereotypes and what is considered sociopathic in english-speaking american culture is not the same as in cambodian culture and it's not even the same in cambodian culture as it is in vietnamese culture okay likewise i mean narcissism it's just a stereotype about behavior which originates in a poem from well ancient greece and ancient rome it's really especially the one written by by ovid and latin and metamorphoses but yeah okay there's a latin poem which is a it's humorous by the way there's a satirical poem in latin and thus we have this idea of of narcissism and a narcissist can die and when you you know dissect the corpse after you perform an autopsy um this so-called medically real mental disorder you're thinking of you will find whether it is under the knife or you know with the mri scan or the um x-ray you will find there is nothing there and you know the deeper tragedy is this to what extent do people have a choice to what extent can they change now i've known richard for more than five years we could try to figure out what it's been seven years or or what how different a person would richard be today if he had just quit playing video games and started reading books no other changes just that just that you know now you could come with a whole bunch of hypotheticals that would have developed and would have changed his character um you know richard knew richard had cognitive awareness that he was some kind of misanthrope that he had violent hateful tendencies what if he had actually taken up some kind of humanitarian work yeah sure partly to help other people but partly to counteract that that tendency in himself you know and it's hard i mean you can grow up in a situation where you really feel that everyone else is even more of a terrible person than you are everyone else is more of a jerk everyone else is more cruel than you are you know to some extent that may have been his experience in life you may have felt that his own family was unloving or that his his contemporaries at school we're unloving towards them or we're cool or what have you well you can go out and have the experience of really showing loving kindness to others of really ministering unto others really caring for others and then some of them some of the time are going to appreciate it and they're going to be loving and carrying back towards you right so he could have done humanitarian work for his own sake for his own ethical and intellectual moral development and you know i know i know he hates christians i know he hates muslims he could have done humanitarian work with christians he could have done humanitarian work for muslims he could have gone to syria and helped you know muslim extremists in cindy syria help people whose homes have been destroyed by uh you know the rise and fall of isis or what have you you know people he wouldn't normally sympathize with and then have that experience and sympathize with their suffering even if you disagree with their religion and politics and and everything else you know okay how much of a different person you think richard could be today i don't believe richard's problem is comparable to being born with the plates in your spine fused together so that you can never stand up straight all right richard is a guy who's slumped over in his chair playing video games he never stands up straight it's a choice it is not a choice made in just one moment right you live in a cycle where the choices you've made in the past start to become your destiny where because you've made the wrong choice again and again and again it seems more and more difficult it just seems unthinkable it seems unimaginable that you're gonna make a different choice and really make a change now um how much could richard change how much could he improve of course i'm skeptical of course i am right but of course conversely i think he could be a much better person today than than he is now if he had made different choices five years ago of course so you can think about it yourself now to be fair let's calibrate this james aspie of course you could be a better person today if you made different choices five years ago of course you know so you know there's plenty of this to go around and you know look i examined myself in this way too you know i do think i have terrible disadvantages in life some of which are biologically real you know i do think you know i have flaws in my character that i've had to struggle with i've had to cope with in different ways which includes why i got involved with buddhism and buddhist philosophy in the first place like you know it's obviously it's not a terrible thing to do but that reflects certain kind of darkness in my character like there are things wrong with me that led me to get involved with buddhism as a religion and let me get involved with humanitarian work helping people now of course any of you can sit here and say oh gee well what a terrible thing to do you know going to cambodia and laos trying to do humanitarian work trying to help poor people but you know i'm telling you like i'm not lying to you you can lie to yourself that's it's on you you know but i'm being honest with you there's real darkness in me there's stuff i was struggling with you know things some some of them are things i inherited from my parents you could say trauma or whatever i mean these are such vague terms but some of them are kind of defects that were produced by my upbringing by my parents by my by the school system and culture right i was raised and some of them even are i think you know genetic they're things i was born with well i struggled and struggled i became a different person there's nobody in this audience now who knew me when i was 18 years old that i've come a long way you know richard hasn't right he's still stuck with really you know the problems he had at 18. as i say sadly he's um he's become dishonest about it whereas before there was a certain kind of nobility just in his his earnestness his openness and in reflecting on it you know so someone here says jokingly buddhists no kung fu exclamation point i've lived in buddhist monasteries i've spent time with buddhist monks you know not just not just doing research with a pen and a piece of paper and yeah i mean it's it's beautiful in its way you can wake up in the morning and they always wake up ridiculous it's 5 30 in the morning or whatever it is at the monastery and there's a skinny old man with a wooden bow staff you know with the rising sun standing on the parapets doing the kung fu movements there are guys who they're guys who live that you know they're they're living exemplars of that tradition you know does it make sense for buddhist monks to do military training no you know that's all it is it's just military training from a few generations ago outmoded so you know does it make sense for buddhist monks to do krav maga the current generation of of military training for handicap no but no no i mean that's real that's that stereotype exists for a reason there are buddhist monks pardon me there are buddhist monks who uh who practice kung fu and all manner of martial arts there are buddhist monks who practice with a full spear with a sword that were but it's really you know all that stuff um they don't just play the chimes those guys and they have a lot of time in their hands a lot of hours in the day living that life when i was actually living on a on a monastery i didn't have any access to the internet didn't have a cell phone didn't have anything else yeah you you'd be amazed just no matter how many hours there are okay i can read some of this stuff out no big deal but um people were debating to what extent richard's defects of character are the result of him having had a bad childhood so look guys i've got to say you know there's more than one side to these stories you know did richard have a bad childhood did richard even have a bad childhood compared to other kids in the same school he went to did richard have a bad childhood compared to his own half brothers and half sisters like his other siblings you know if you look at how they grew up you know if you just make comparisons in the same family um you know i i would be incredibly skeptical about that and you know we're all inclined to be selfish we all are and by the way i don't really uh begrudge people when they're skeptical about what i say about my own childhood uh i am in fact incredibly honest and really accurate about my own childhood but you know i could understand that you wouldn't assume that you can assume that you would understand that i would be self-pitying and self-centered and diminish other people's perspectives uh or what have you but in any case sorry but compared to anyone else who grew up uh in in toronto and the same neighborhood went the same school i i'd remain scheduled with that however one person says yeah have you seen vegan gains debate he refutes every argument and his only comeback is what's your source he loses every debate and interrupts um what would that have to do you see i'm just saying this challenge you guys what you've just observed there's no connection between that and this concept of sociopath there's no connection with that in this concept of psychopath there's no connection with that and having a bad childhood like you think only people who have a bad childhood have this so i'm just saying you you are this is a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy you know you're you're putting together okay i think there's a very different and you know more important critique to put forward when you say vegan gains is someone who openly says again and again that he wants to kill people he's someone who paradoxically while being vegan openly says that he wants to kill animals it's another whole surreal debate you know he's someone who has had these really deep you know ethical fissures in his life he's someone who when he was debating the ethics of abortion admitted openly that his primary reason for supporting abortion was that he wanted to kill people and specifically kill babies he said many times that he has these violent urges especially towards small children and babies he's also tried to rationalize this and make himself look like a victim in various ways they're not worth summarizing here okay so but what i've just described there's really no contact between that and these problems with uh incompetence and debate whatever we can't really trace any any connection i think there is a connection between this and what the way in which he takes his own defects of character and insists that they're universal so vegan gains is something of an anti-natalist you tell me if he's ever really clarified what his position is on anti-natalism i think he likes to uh i think he likes to be pointedly vague about it okay you know it would take real humility for richard to say having a child is a wonderful thing it's a tremendous responsibility and it requires certain redeeming characteristics that he himself just doesn't have therefore he isn't going to have a child but he has the utmost respect for people who do have the self-discipline who do have the detachment who do have what it takes intellectually ethically and emotionally to raise the next generation of children that takes humility all right takes humility and takes self-knowledge you know what takes no humility at all for richard to say that he personally can't have children and can never raise children and hates the idea of he can't cope with it he lacks their inequalities and everyone else lacks them also and therefore the human race should just cease to exist that anyone who has children is going to be as bad a parent as he would be himself that nobody can be made happy through parenting these these kinds of claims you see that's the same that's the same pattern of self-serving thinking self-serving self-centered short-term single stage of analysis thinking that's what richard is into so yeah uh someone who calls himself a weird guy in the audience says quote he's sad he started bodybuilding to impress women that kind of shows me who he truly is i work out so i can fight or pl or be better sports uh so that it gives me an advantage well so you know and someone else is asking if you have you seen him say that i have seen him talk about that that aspect of his life um the role of self-image and he's described himself as struggling with something like anorexia before too of constantly looking in the mirror and feeling that he's fat feeling that needs to be thinner and he blames his mother for this uh interestingly he says that his mother inculcated in him this self-hating obsession with with being as thin as possible um and that none of the girls will want him nobody will like him if he doesn't if he doesn't starve himself he doesn't need us as little as possible so he does have body image issues you know don't forget this is also someone who started doing hardcore pornography on only fans and at the same time claimed that he was in the future going to get himself elected to be prime minister of canada that he would start running in elections as an elected politician now i think the most telling thing about that about so look the obviously the hardcore porn relates to his body image and ego issues and his relationship to women okay you could analyze it one way or another you know i think it's significant that when he states that he thinks he could be a better prime minister than the current prime minister of canada that he could win elections that he would be a better politician than the politicians in his own writing uh in his own district so on and so forth that that is primarily based again on him projecting onto other people his own negative personal characteristics the assumption that everyone else is an even more terrible person than he is and you know what you know richard you gotta calibrate these judgments if i compare richard to james aspie if i compare richard to durianrider if i compare richard to gary yourofsky you know these are all deeply flawed characters there's all people who have real problems richard you're the worst you're worse than all these people you know and i i'm sure that's hard to live with richard but no if you actually took the time to evaluate and get to know the people in in politics maybe some of them are worse than richard you know when you put them maybe there are a few people that are really legitimately worse than than vegan gains than richard but you know you're gonna have to again come to a kind of very humble conclusion that you know you lack many of the redeeming qualities that successful politicians have or that successful politicians should have you know oh somebody's uh bringing up some uh some anecdotes i told about buddhist monks in the past well you've been watching this channel for many years you can remember that those videos but i i am disappointed i would love to do more videos about religion even just atheism and christianity buddhism also it's it's a disappointment that i have no colleagues and i have no contemporaries in that respect i bought a book recently just to make some videos talking about atheism but i've been i've been busy with other books and with writing my own book but yeah that's still something i really uh care about totally fine but frida's saying something that challenges me slightly frida says quote i think you are the kind of person that would want to do humanitarian work and would like to benefit learn from doing research period many people don't care about those kinds of things period you know what everyone cares about freda they care about the man in the mirror they care about the person they're gonna become that's what people care about i don't know any exceptions that you know people do good things because they want to be a good person they want to become a better person through doing good things you know there are ambitions to change the world you can have ambitions do humanitarian work just to help other people you can have ambitions to do research just to learn things or just to publish facts so that other people can learn things just to establish facts that have been hitherto unknown sure there are all those motives but you know that there is something egoic at the core of all this which is the question of when i wake up tomorrow who am i going to be you know am i am i going to despise the person i am when i wake up tomorrow and richard hates himself he hates the person he is he hates them that he's become so yeah i do think richard has a reason richard has an interest in doing humanitarian work i do think he has a reason to do to do research too and i think you know it's written all over his youtube channel he craves he yearns for a sense of moral superiority over others he craves and yearns for a sense of intellectual spirit over others and he tries to make use of you know footnoted references to peer-reviewed medical studies this sort of thing which he makes you know of course an amateur's ham-fisted use of he doesn't really understand anything in terms of nutritional science not even research related to bodybuilding and so on and so forth he's not even a well-informed amateur on all these subjects you know uh but it still shows that yearning it still shows that craving still shows that desire either to be a better person or just to be perceived as a better person so yeah you know even someone like richard or even someone like james aspie you know they do have a reason to do humanitarian work they do have a reason to get involved in research see a weird guy is again reflecting he doesn't remember the exact video but that's right i told this long story about a buddhist monk whose hand is swallowed by a snake a python and so that is correct if you dig through far enough you'll find that again on my youtube so sam walsh says what would you consider your character flaws to be now and how do you manage them effectively look you know um [Music] who says i'm managing them effectively you know who says i'm winning who says i'm doing it the right way you know i i don't particularly think that i am you know i'm really aware that i'm a deeply flawed character and um some of these things i think are innate within me and i'll never overcome them you know um you know i think there are okay i'm gonna compare this let's talk about bodybuilding all right you can look in the mirror and feel like you're never beautiful enough feel like you're never muscular enough never lean enough but for some people you're never curvy enough or your breasts are never big enough for your face is never handsome enough your face is never beautiful you can always be dissatisfied by these kinds of subjective measurements in the mirror and look some people are ugly and no matter how they work out they stay away and almost everyone if you don't take steroids let me tell you something when you get to be 30 years old it's much harder to be lean and muscular than it was at 20 years old that when you get to be 40 years old so even if you were satisfied with what your body looked like when you were 25 maybe you're going to be miserable and so a lot of people struggle with this looking in the mirror but you know what there are objective measurements for physical fitness where you can say okay this exists in the real world and that's enough so if i can do 200 push-ups and by the way i do the push-ups with my feet elevated way the hell up so it's not like a normal push-up you're lifting much more your body weight but regardless if i can do 200 push-ups and if i can bench press 200 pounds in my 40s i'm okay i'm in shape you know what i mean you can just have a list of exercises of amounts of you know empirically real uh weight that you can learn these okay that's it you know and look maybe i'm gonna get ugly or an ugly i think if we're being honest there's no maybe about it we all get old you know you know you can get uglier for a variety of reasons you know okay you know it's fine i'm in my 40s and when i'm in my 40s and doing 200 push-ups a day this is what i look like and you know maybe that's it maybe that's all you're you're cut out for biologically and then you can have the attachment of that you can be at peace with that richard himself he gains is an example of somebody who will never be a piece of that and i think if he writes the number on the wall bench pressing 200 pounds he'll be unhappy with the number and if he writes 200 push-ups he'll be unhappy with the push-ups and i think he does look at other guys on instagram you've seen it in some of his youtube videos i think he does feel jealousy and envy towards other bodybuilders and other men who are more handsome i don't um you know okay in your intellectual life in your emotional life what's the equivalent now i've got to say i i confirm like objectively the measure that i'm okay you know um that i'm co-paying with my character flaws effectively when i put it is my creative output can i really be a creative person and that doesn't rely on the audience you know it can be that i'm writing poetry in the 21st century nobody's going to read your poetry the market for poetry is incredibly small like it can be that i'm writing poetry it can be that i'm writing and illustrating story books for my own daughter it can be creativity in forms that are not as monetizable as as youtube but i can say all right look if i'm really able to be creative if i'm really able to work um and and be productive you know then i'm coping with within reals that for me is the kind of tangible objectively real measure equivalent to uh doing 200 push-ups a day where you're not just looking in the mirror and evaluating are you okay when was the last time you saw the the smallest spark of creativity from vegan gains from richer at the start of this video i said look it's really sad he used to be honest about his problems and now he's dishonest about him you know what he also used to be a creative person and now he's not you know now he's not a creative person at all now he is just a morose resentful violent person you know um there was a time when he made up elaborate comedy sketches i think he made up songs too maybe i'm maybe i'm giving it too much credit maybe song would be an exaggeration but you know um there used to be a kind of theatricality and creativity uh to what he was doing and that side of him has been dead for a long time so that's that's a red flag that's a that's a warning now look you know melissa is here with me so melissa's known me for approximately five years at this point i would say to you that even within those five years you could look at the times in my life when i was really doing badly when i was really suffering when i was really falling apart put it that way and and you used to say to me you saved me you know but no one can tell you've got your act together like whatever you said in different ways you're like what do you mean you're so productive and you wake up in the morning and you're doing all this reading and you do it like you're such an active positive person how can you say you're falling apart by the way there's a lot of truth to that that's not that she's delusional it's not that she's just in love with me i know i know what she means like during those times when i was saying to her look i'm i'm falling apart like there's a really dark time in my life like i'd say that to her but she'd say like look i can't believe it because you're such a such a positive active person ah but i would point out to you and i can remember saying to you so i said look you know for the last several months i haven't been writing and illustrating short stories i haven't been you know whether you want to say i'm just saying poetry for convenience i haven't been drawing i haven't read i haven't been quite like that's you know and you know obviously i mean know i'm very honest with melissa i did i did give voice to what it was i was so upset about what i was so broken down about what it was i was struggling to cope with uh so in that sense she can't say it's hard to see what was wrong because i was i was explaining it but i get her point like her point is like well in the rest of your life 12 hours a day like you seem to be you seem to be coping so so well so look you know um [Music] it's it's a long answer but to to an important question and you know you asked how do you manage them effectively and i think i gave you the more important answer which is how can you tell how can you tell if you mention them effectively because the easiest thing in the world to delude yourself about and again richard gives us lots of examples of that if you want to stay on vegan gains as the uh locust classic us for this video you know richard claimed he was cured so many times he claimed that he used to be a psychopath but now that he's used magic mushrooms he's cured his condition he used to have this problem that he was magically miraculous cure miraculously cured he had depression but veganism cured his depression one crazy scheme after another where he's convincing himself that he's managing or that he's overcome his his problems so yeah i'm i'm giving you uh i'm giving you maybe the more important answer to that question okay so weird guy says that he regrets his bad childhood he can't fight anymore and he's scared okay you know what you get to control you know what you get to change the future you know if that's not enough for you you know and i'm being real here not just the next five years not just the next 10 years you get to change the next thousand years of what happens on planet earth and look at i mean i i do not support donald trump you think donald trump hasn't changed life on earth for the next 100 years yeah it doesn't take that much imagination it doesn't take that much brilliance it certainly doesn't take that much hard work i don't think anyone could praise trump for his his work ethic you know what i mean yes you can you can change life on earth for the next hundred years and for the next thousand years and you know you could compose a little limerick a little song that anyone can perform that gets recited like a christmas carol again and again by a thousand people and 10 000 people and taught from parent to child and i hope it'll be better than the christmas carols i was taught as a child you know you can you can come up with something you can create something meaningful that's going to inform and change other people's lives and of course that's going to inform and change your own so you know what you're right you can't do anything about your childhood you can't do anything with the past you can't even do anything about what happened yesterday but what you can change is the future including who you are as i say if the future is not enough for you you know quit now but it should be you know because the future is worth a lot more than the past it really is and think of all the people in history who suffered and struggled and died such meaningless lives with such few so few options such you know grim horizons people who did not have the convenience of a flushing toilet and how much all those people from the past from history would have much preferred to be here today contesting the future that we all still share so i'm free to ask a great question obviously there's the delay here i'm answering some questions the rest many minutes ago she asked quote but what is he actually doing to become a politician so the point is he had stated in this grandiose way that he would be elected prime minister of canada frida what is vegan gains doing to become a nutritionist what is vegan gains doing to become a bodybuilding expert what is vegan gains doing to become an actor what is he doing to become a stunt man to play leading roles in movies do you guys remember he had several years of boasting about that was the next phase of his career that he was gonna be a an action movie star what what has he been doing to become an actor okay what has he been doing to become a vegan activist what has he even been doing to become a successful youtuber all right with all of these things he's been doing nothing because he's a person with no positive ambition and you can you can see that you can see that every day you know so no he's not doing anything to become a politician but he's also not doing anything to become well-read in any of the fields that he likes to hold court on that he likes to sit and share uh lord his superiority for others not you know okay fridas another great question here she says what do you think it takes for a person to keep striving to become that better person they would want to be okay frida i'm going to tell it to you straight for the vast majority of people the motives are no better than fear fear revenge resentment money fame power respect sex most people's reasons for self-improvement for wanting to have a more meaningful life or to be a better person they're dark but nevertheless you know it leads them to the light you know what can i tell it nevertheless has these positive and beneficial outcomes and i'll bet there are tons of people who can say that they started doing x y or zed because they were just trying to get laid you know whatever it was but they really discovered the way to a more meaningful life through it certainly people go into the theater in order to get like you know certainly people undertake become artists creative artists or what have you people become medical doctors people become researchers for these dark motives but sure just just to touch on fear again yeah there's a lot of fear in the game a lot of people motivated by fear fear of failure fear of being like your own father being no better than your own father fear of despising yourself sure sure you know and a lot of people in that struggle they don't have any clear idea of positively what it is they're running towards they only know what it is they're they're running away from right at my age my father had nine kids i'd probably have a higher sex drive than that guy probably i'm just being real with you you know obviously it was a demon that plagued them his whole life the only reason he didn't have more kids is that he got a vasectomy you know um you know um i didn't want to end up like my father okay i went to university i didn't want to end up like any of my professors not any of them not even like not even that and there were some professors who took me aside and said hey you know kid you're really brilliant you could have my job you know you could be a professor too you get a phd you could be one of the special elite people and this these are professors who are telling the other kids that they can be social workers so sure you know i had some encouragement well guess what i didn't want to turn out like my dad and i didn't want to turn out like my university professors either you know so fear and a lot of people don't know what they're running towards they only know what they're running away from they only have negative examples i had someone write into me through patreon completely honestly and they sent a couple messages saying look i watch your recent videos about living a meaningful life and being intellectual but tell me what's what is your example what's your positive example of an intellectual and then back a two-word reply isil mazar i didn't have any role models i didn't have anyone to look up to i didn't you know and i didn't know what it was that was i was running towards i didn't know what kind of a better person i would become or should become or could you know i only knew what i was avoiding what i was what i was running away from but i was motivated [Laughter] melissa and i talked about that today from a totally different set of angles i think during our walk today we were talking about those those issues there are many people so quoting frida again quote there are many people that say all criticism is subjective i just i disagree just like you say there are objective measurements for anything and this can be very positive too um they were also just inter-subjective measurements you know uh i opened this video by saying look let's be reasonable if we're going to condemn vegan gains what is it we're condemning him for it to what extent into what way is he a a terrible person and i said look if if i found out he was going to marry my sister i'd really be worried i'm just appealing to the audience think sympathize think of yourself in that hypothetical situation you find out that your own sister is going to marry vegan gains and whoa what are you going to say to her how are you going to warn her and then there are a whole lot of other people you may disagree with or despise but you say okay if i found out my sister was going to marry james aspie it's no big deal you know but you know so that's not objectively real it's not it's inter-subjective but that's a judgment we can all share in and we can all you know compare notes with each other and look you know what the the tragedy thing is i think richard would agree and well i think we've all heard richard analyze his own mental problems enough his own struggles with violence his own struggles with his own sexuality his own struggles with his own body image we've heard him say that he considers himself a deeply flawed and somewhat dangerous character who's prone to losing his mind going insane hallucinating fits of rage so on and so forth you know his descriptions of his own hallucinations are very serious by the way in the past he tried to attribute his hallucinations to caffeine and he tried to claim that he had cured his hallucinations through dietary change and by taking mind-altering drugs like magic mushrooms and have inclusionatory experiences he's made all kinds of outlandish claims about how he's cured and how he's moved on he's progressed and then we hear a few weeks later or a few months later that tragically he's had to admit to himself that he hasn't made that that progress you know so i think richard himself if he were in a reflective enough mood could agree yeah you know what i understand if our positions were reversed if i found out that a guy like me was getting married to my sister i would agree i challenge richard you guys may or may not remember i said to him look richard this is the stuff you've told us about who you are and you say you're going to own a gun do you believe we should live in a society where someone who has this checklist of symptoms should own and carry a firearm you know it was just the list of mental problems you have admitted struggling with yourself you have described yourself struggling with is that someone who should own and carry a firearm he's he's described having paranoid delusions of feeling that someone's attacking him if they just shake his hand that a stranger comes up and is happy to see him as happy and smiling and he has the paranoid delusion this person is trying to kill him that this person is going to stab him and he wants to defend himself or wants to punch this person he is described struggling with those paranoid delusions sometimes combined with hallucinations okay is that someone who should be carrying a gun richard if we're talking about someone other than you but when we're talking about him right he's incapable of that kind of of that kind of reflection now likewise this whole act he has of challenging people to a cage match if anyone else were doing it frankly when durianrider was doing it i think he disapproved of durianrider dude he could see the fault in it when other people were doing the same thing uh stefan or stephanie sorry stephanie asked will we ever see any of your drawings we could do that for this sock mess we could uh upload we could upload to youtube or upload as a pdf the sockmess children's storybook could go through and illustrate that yeah sorry i'm not going to digress and do an autobiographical thing about that but there was a time when i assumed working on improving my own drawing would be a big part of my life but just as i was disappointed that the college here that teaches you how to bake bread was so terrible the college is available to me to learn how to draw or improve your ability to draw we're also terrible in canada so i am purely self-taught but there is a sense in which yeah you can see my peculiar intellectual character and my drawings too happiest vegan on earth says quote i don't understand why richard's channel hasn't been taken down with all his violent speech slash behavior well um [Music] he doesn't have an instagram anymore he's banned from instagram for life he doesn't have twitter anymore he's been banned from twitter for life you'll never hear him say honestly why that was never right so there are many other platforms he's been banned from that he's been kicked off of uh not youtube or not yet i do not watch his live streams he does these long format live streams but i've had people writing into me and saying look if you can sit through these things he breaks youtube's um terms and conditions you know he breaks the the guidelines multiple times in each uh each live stream which is obviously easy for me to imagine so a little four word comment from william again william again says simply quote fear of the unknown okay william i think richard is a great example for this what do you think richard is more afraid of you know the unknown the person he could become how these experiences could change him or staying the same being the same piece of [ __ ] he already is that he's already been since his teenage years you know not growing not developing like you know you can fear what's known you can fear ending up like your own father you know as i said just to give it a give it put it put a face on what is you can fear ending up like your own school teachers you know um if you give a really simple example we did all this research into having a career in the stock market uh into studying for the cfa exams i'm sorry what are the other exams and the finra right the finra exams um getting the credentials necessary to work on the stock market in the united states of america i think it's reasonable to be afraid of how that experience is going to change you you know if you start devoting your time and energy to doing these mathematical equations and thinking about how you can make money on the stock market you are going to change no matter who you are if you don't already have that that background you know what you may you may fear that change i find it very difficult to believe that richard is is afraid of that change i find it very difficult to believe richard would be afraid of going to thailand or going to cambodia or going to africa or going to saudi arabia i find it difficult to imagine that he would be afraid you know in that in that sense um you know it is worthwhile to talk about fear at the end it is sure uh but you know you can also be afraid of stagnation you can be afraid of waking up ten years from now and being exactly the same person you are today but worse you know you can be afraid of your own lack of growth and dynamism great question from molly smiles are you guys really moving to los angeles yes and uh we're probably going to be uh asking people for advice on what what apartment and what neighborhood we're going to get involved in all kinds of boring details like that so yeah we have some paperwork coming up but at some point you're going to notice something different in the background and um then it'll be fitting completely we'll be we'll be living in living in los angeles okay guys uh thanks for hanging out thanks for contributing to this uh discussion um you know i learned today something i'd never heard before i was totally unaware that yemen was formerly a communist country now for someone in my position who studied the history and politics of communism for so many years and talked to so many experts you know professors in other words read so many books and someone who's also read quite a lot about the politics of saudi arabia and yemen it is astonishing to me that i was completely unaware until today that south yemen formerly was a communist country communism is bad the government of saudi arabia the government of the houthi rebels in yemen the government of the tyrannical muslim majority in these countries saudi arabia and yemen regarded collectively as having a population of over 60 million people it's so bad that you can see communism as an improvement you can look at that and think hmm how would the civil war in yemen today be different how would the whole situation for yemen and saudi arabia and the whole of the muslim world be different if yemen had remained a communist country or under communist dominion you know one way or another you know um [Music] richard is such a terrible person he is such a bad person he is so stupid he is so dishonest he's so malevolent that he puts himself into a debate with these other terrible people and he ends up making them look good by contrast you know i did not think i would regard isaac butterfield as a sagacious person but here we are staring at the contrast between him and a registered between him and vegan gains and you know vegan gains is just such a black hole of a person he's such a dark void of a human being that pretty much anyone you have sit down next to them by contrast seems to glow with their own kind of morally positive light