We Don't Need a Vegan Majority, We Don't Need Izzy Davis
01 August 2019 [link youtube]
This is not, in fact, the first time I've made a video in response to Izzy Davis. You'll find her youtube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/user/izzydsammies/videos
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this is what's going on in the factory farms that is why I'm so angry that you X vegans are coming out on the internet and saying that you are no longer vegan I don't have a hammer or at least I don't know where it is so I have this tequila bottle and you know oh let's try that again No okay this one's being tough [Music] title the video why I'm so angry it's her saying this this here this is what's going on in the factory farms that is why I'm so angry that you X vegans are coming out on the internet and saying that you are no longer vegan that you've incorporated some fish and eggs and whatever back in your diet okay so whoa so so here's my response what if okay what if we could inspire more people to eat plant-based plant-based but not 100% 1000% all the time perfectly vegan okay because you do not know how many more people in my life have started to eat plant-based meals because of me and more so since I've been less extreme when I tell people that you know I'm vegan mostly but if there's like a cookie that my grandma baked for Christmas and it has eggs in it I'm gonna eat it people smile in 2019 most people talk about expectations based on your appearance in terms of privilege problem here is not pretty girl privilege it's really the opposite I think is he can't imagine and can't quite get to grips with the extent to which she is really being trivialized and talked down to when people in this condescending way smile at her are positive and encouraging when she reveals that she herself does not live up to the moral standards that she preaches for others to follow or that she encourages others to follow to put it that way now just as easy Davis as all the advantages and disadvantages of being a small non-threatening and somewhat cute female I have all the disadvantages of being a large and scary I have scary guy privilege and I know it there was a teacher of mine so this was a Chinese language teacher in Canada so she's ethnically Chinese she grew up you know Chinese is her first language in a Chinese culture she lived most your life in Taiwan and you know when I told her that was vegan she laughed and said oh no after you've lived in China for a year you'll go back to eating meat like after you lived in China for any for even a few months you know and I just looked at her and I said do you think I'm weak and she said all of the other students who went to China some of them just went for like four weeks and six weeks most of the programs they had they were really that were not even a few months long like six week it's the whole course in China or something she said all the students who went over to China I came back she said all of them who were vegetarian gave up and and went back to eating meat and I said they were weak there were other people in the room I mean for me it kind of is slow burn humor it is kind of hilarious but serious um right they were eliminated either due to their weakness or their their immorality but you know what does it mean for people to smile and laugh at you for people to be warm to use people to be nice to you for people to say good for you when you tell them that you can't live up to your own moral standards you know I'm vegan mostly but if there's like a cookie that my grandma baked for Christmas and it has eggs in it I'm gonna eat it people smile people like that when you tell them that you really have no credit in you know preaching this ethical position for others to follow because you don't you don't strive sincerely even to follow it yourself I have known a lot of good-looking women who struggled with the extent to which they were never taken seriously I've never known anyone who suffered or regretted that they were taken too seriously I see this I see this sub movement coming up now of like 95% plant-based within the nutrition world as well there's a lot of research to support that and I'll have to make a whole entire separate video that could go on and on about why but here's the argument if you're gonna use the voting with your dollar approach to if you're gonna use the voting with your dollar appropriation to go vegan in your lifetime and this is all gonna just be rainbows and ponies great you can live in that but it's the vegan movement does not need a hundred percent of the population to become vegan for it to win the abolition of slavery did not wait for one hundred percent of the population to decide at a ballot box that they wanted to abolish slavery for veganism to make progress for veganism to fundamentally change society for veganism to achieve its long-term goals we neither need 100% nor fifty percent of people have become vegan what percentage of people were actually involved in the struggle to establish gay rights in Canada it wasn't 51% it wasn't 10% it wasn't 5% a huge percentage of Canadians were and still are conservative Christians a shockingly large percentage of Canadians are conservative Catholics specifically but the overwhelming majority of Canadians were simply indifferent I don't think it's unreasonable to say that even within the city of Toronto the majority of gay people were indifferent it wasn't just a minority of Canadians who fought for gay rights it was actually a minority of homosexual Canadians who were activists involved in the struggle to establish gay rights but what do you think of that as one percent or one half of one percent they brought about legal cultural and social change very fundamentally transformed our whole society step-by-step within my lifetime if you're watching this video within your lifetime - that's not the only positive example we can point to how many people really care about the fact that cigarettes cause cancer how many people were actively involved in lobbying government to change the labels on cigarette packages how many people really care about drunk driving and speed limits and seatbelts it wasn't the case that America waited for 51% of people to support the idea of seatbelts a tiny tiny minority of people in the United States America led by a guy named Ralph Nader led a completely unpopular minority movement to push for ultimately legal changes legal changes that oppressed the whole country that oppressed the car manufacturers the car manufacturers fought tooth and nail of car manufacturers wanted seatbelts to be optional not required and the government ultimately made the decision No it benefits us all as individuals at benefit society as a whole what veganism needs to win with veganism needs to make progress is not for 100% of people to be vegan it's not for 51% people to be we need a tiny talented minority who are willing to press this case for cultural as well as political change for me being more flexible being like flexi vegan where I'm like 95% vegan isn't a mistake it's actually a conscious decision it's actually for the hope that it's gonna get more people to eat less animal products as a whole but I also think that we shouldn't see these people you know having cravings and going to resolve those cravings as a mistake why is it a mistake if craving for it and then simultaneously you're kind of like I'm that vegan that like has to bring a Tupperware with me every time I go to a dinner party maybe maybe it makes sense to kind of like shake things up a little bit [Music] [Music] remember at crazy Thomas University the future is you probably
this is what's going on in the factory farms that is why I'm so angry that you X vegans are coming out on the internet and saying that you are no longer vegan I don't have a hammer or at least I don't know where it is so I have this tequila bottle and you know oh let's try that again No okay this one's being tough [Music] title the video why I'm so angry it's her saying this this here this is what's going on in the factory farms that is why I'm so angry that you X vegans are coming out on the internet and saying that you are no longer vegan that you've incorporated some fish and eggs and whatever back in your diet okay so whoa so so here's my response what if okay what if we could inspire more people to eat plant-based plant-based but not 100% 1000% all the time perfectly vegan okay because you do not know how many more people in my life have started to eat plant-based meals because of me and more so since I've been less extreme when I tell people that you know I'm vegan mostly but if there's like a cookie that my grandma baked for Christmas and it has eggs in it I'm gonna eat it people smile in 2019 most people talk about expectations based on your appearance in terms of privilege problem here is not pretty girl privilege it's really the opposite I think is he can't imagine and can't quite get to grips with the extent to which she is really being trivialized and talked down to when people in this condescending way smile at her are positive and encouraging when she reveals that she herself does not live up to the moral standards that she preaches for others to follow or that she encourages others to follow to put it that way now just as easy Davis as all the advantages and disadvantages of being a small non-threatening and somewhat cute female I have all the disadvantages of being a large and scary I have scary guy privilege and I know it there was a teacher of mine so this was a Chinese language teacher in Canada so she's ethnically Chinese she grew up you know Chinese is her first language in a Chinese culture she lived most your life in Taiwan and you know when I told her that was vegan she laughed and said oh no after you've lived in China for a year you'll go back to eating meat like after you lived in China for any for even a few months you know and I just looked at her and I said do you think I'm weak and she said all of the other students who went to China some of them just went for like four weeks and six weeks most of the programs they had they were really that were not even a few months long like six week it's the whole course in China or something she said all the students who went over to China I came back she said all of them who were vegetarian gave up and and went back to eating meat and I said they were weak there were other people in the room I mean for me it kind of is slow burn humor it is kind of hilarious but serious um right they were eliminated either due to their weakness or their their immorality but you know what does it mean for people to smile and laugh at you for people to be warm to use people to be nice to you for people to say good for you when you tell them that you can't live up to your own moral standards you know I'm vegan mostly but if there's like a cookie that my grandma baked for Christmas and it has eggs in it I'm gonna eat it people smile people like that when you tell them that you really have no credit in you know preaching this ethical position for others to follow because you don't you don't strive sincerely even to follow it yourself I have known a lot of good-looking women who struggled with the extent to which they were never taken seriously I've never known anyone who suffered or regretted that they were taken too seriously I see this I see this sub movement coming up now of like 95% plant-based within the nutrition world as well there's a lot of research to support that and I'll have to make a whole entire separate video that could go on and on about why but here's the argument if you're gonna use the voting with your dollar approach to if you're gonna use the voting with your dollar appropriation to go vegan in your lifetime and this is all gonna just be rainbows and ponies great you can live in that but it's the vegan movement does not need a hundred percent of the population to become vegan for it to win the abolition of slavery did not wait for one hundred percent of the population to decide at a ballot box that they wanted to abolish slavery for veganism to make progress for veganism to fundamentally change society for veganism to achieve its long-term goals we neither need 100% nor fifty percent of people have become vegan what percentage of people were actually involved in the struggle to establish gay rights in Canada it wasn't 51% it wasn't 10% it wasn't 5% a huge percentage of Canadians were and still are conservative Christians a shockingly large percentage of Canadians are conservative Catholics specifically but the overwhelming majority of Canadians were simply indifferent I don't think it's unreasonable to say that even within the city of Toronto the majority of gay people were indifferent it wasn't just a minority of Canadians who fought for gay rights it was actually a minority of homosexual Canadians who were activists involved in the struggle to establish gay rights but what do you think of that as one percent or one half of one percent they brought about legal cultural and social change very fundamentally transformed our whole society step-by-step within my lifetime if you're watching this video within your lifetime - that's not the only positive example we can point to how many people really care about the fact that cigarettes cause cancer how many people were actively involved in lobbying government to change the labels on cigarette packages how many people really care about drunk driving and speed limits and seatbelts it wasn't the case that America waited for 51% of people to support the idea of seatbelts a tiny tiny minority of people in the United States America led by a guy named Ralph Nader led a completely unpopular minority movement to push for ultimately legal changes legal changes that oppressed the whole country that oppressed the car manufacturers the car manufacturers fought tooth and nail of car manufacturers wanted seatbelts to be optional not required and the government ultimately made the decision No it benefits us all as individuals at benefit society as a whole what veganism needs to win with veganism needs to make progress is not for 100% of people to be vegan it's not for 51% people to be we need a tiny talented minority who are willing to press this case for cultural as well as political change for me being more flexible being like flexi vegan where I'm like 95% vegan isn't a mistake it's actually a conscious decision it's actually for the hope that it's gonna get more people to eat less animal products as a whole but I also think that we shouldn't see these people you know having cravings and going to resolve those cravings as a mistake why is it a mistake if craving for it and then simultaneously you're kind of like I'm that vegan that like has to bring a Tupperware with me every time I go to a dinner party maybe maybe it makes sense to kind of like shake things up a little bit [Music] [Music] remember at crazy Thomas University the future is you probably