I support Sorsha, TBH, and Durianrider got it right on this one.

29 July 2016 [link youtube]


As Stannis Baratheon said, a good deed does not wash out the bad: I can't believe we've got vegans pretending that it's a valid argument to say, "Yeah, well, I donate money to charity, THEREFORE…" Please. I don't care if you donate to charity, and I don't care if you own the charity: that doesn't dispose of the basic premise of ethical veganism, and, in fact, it's completely spurious to everything Sorsha had to say.


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I really lack the words to express how
much contempt I have for the counter productive self-righteous stupidity of a natural vegan in doing her crazy little hatchet job on Sorcha I hope you will feel the depth of my sincerity when I say to you that unnatural vegan statement on this is so moronic is so lacking in redeeming qualities that it has inspired me to make a video praising durianrider because when I put those two videos side by side unnatural vegans response to this controversy next tutorial riders response durianrider looks like a genius compared to a natural vegan durianrider is bringing some real content he's bringing some suits sincere reflections he's bringing the first time I've Studdard on camera Jesus Christ oh I just got back from the gym he is unnatural vegan really so stupid that she is unaware that Sorcha is playing a fictional character in comedy videos when she offers this critique unnatural vegan gives us a deadpan dead serious critique of source of revenue in terms of effective activism in her comedy videos that is just as stupid as if I were to come on camera now and tell you you know what this guy Joe vegan if you have nerve Joe vegan you know he's really a terrible activist because he doesn't realize that when he does interpretive dance on camera he makes interpretive dance look ridiculous he's not a very good dancer at all and she just has no idea he's totally unaware of what he's doing on camera no no my dude Joe vegan knows that he is making a comedy video may be unnatural vegan is so stupid that she really does not know that Sorcha merova is making comedy videos maybe she really thinks that this character Sorcha plays is who Sorcha truly is 24 7 in the scioscia has no control over herself they criticizes Sorcha for not having a filter are you kidding these are completely scripted for Hearst polished videos these are comedy videos the elements of sources comedy that are absurd and ridiculous are very much intentionally absurd and ridiculous what she does is provocative and she successfully reaches a much larger audience that Oliver reach because she goes after an audience of people who are currently meteors people who are not already vegans right and she reaches that audience tens of thousands hundreds of thousands and she reached PewDiePie this is a victory for her you idiots are treating it like she was defeated I mean you know and what what during writer brought to this it's actually real it's actually sincere it's a set of reflections the world needs to hear you know and it has an element of risk to coming on the internet and saying something as simple as that from your own experience you know what it's like to grow up playing video games and then to look back on it later and realize what a waste of time it was that's real it's sincere you know and the sad thing is the internet is full of people who have a very thin-skinned who are very defensive with the culture of video games they have a lot of time on their hands to devote to daxing you denouncing you getting a brigade of people to give but give thumbs down your video no matter even the humble first-person perspective during writer states in that you know what people are going to punish him for it and it's not going to be my viewers who are getting up on him it's going to be people to say how dare you say anything critical about video games or about spending hundreds of hours during your youth playing video games how dare you all right there is just no point I in my responding to any of the the the substance of what a natural vegan said on this to call it stupid as an insult to stupidity but I mean you know like look let's be real here okay yes what source does is entertainment it's not activism she knows that it's comedy it's not some kind of dead yeah a natural vegan actually criticizes Sorcha for for representing a form vigas that's driven by rage that's driven by anger she seems angry do you actually think sorcerer murabba is angry in those comedy videos you really all you think it's even what you that's why either how she truly feels her that's what she's portraying you watched that video the video she made on PewDiePie and what you got from that was anger and extremism really my dude and this is in a context of all kinds of vegan activists that I've talked about on this channel threatening terrorist violence uh you know putting bombs in fur shops uh you know breaking into zoos breaking into sea world you know the the craziness of real vegan extremism and just the excuses made for the statements that are pro violence from guys like Gary Yourofsky and Steve best if you want to talk about rage and extremism you know you can do it with some sympathy too because a lot of these people are brokenhearted and trying to make a positive difference in the world that just don't know how but yes we do have problems with rage and hatred and violence and veganism but it ain't her it ain't Sorcha you joking it's like saying that you know pick some some stand-up comedian it's like saying Chris Rock it is an example of black power extreme is in the DS example of someone who can't control his rage when he's doing stand-up comments no he sometimes has contrived expressions of rage as part of his act as being expressive as a comedian he's not out of control he's naughty naughty let's say you don't like sources videos obviously it's not particularly my cup of tea but I mean this is like the thing before we're talking about you know tena mojo can't you just be happy for her if you don't like her Jean ref comedy if you don't like Rosanna of videos why can't you just recognize there's an audience for it there's an audience for me and what I do it's wonderful if 2,000 people want to watch a one hour video I've made talking to a lawyer in Washington DC talking about you know the future of veganism animal rights in ecology that that's amazing I don't even know what's it at now yeah over 2,000 people that's wonderful it's a huge audience from my perspective and people who want to hate on me and say oh what a boring video you just talk to this lawyer about animal rights for an hour yeah you're damn right and it's a wonderful thing there's an audience for it just recognize that and move on if a hundred thousand people are into sources content if a million people learn to tender my show is kind of why can't we just be happy for them why why would any why would I natural vegan want to tear her down why would cheetah want to tear her down why why are any of you doing this why can't you just be happy for and recognize this is a victory for she scored a point on PewDiePie she got exposure to tens of millions of people she exactly what she was going for it's not the game I play it's not what I do want on this channel but I can respect the player and I can respect the game just ridiculous but look if you watched sources original video and you didn't like it what do you rate it a five out of ten people who like it more maybe give it a seven out of ten whatever fine what do you rate pewdiepie's video it's a zero there's nothing of substance well why don't you make a flowchart of what PewDiePie brought to this argument he uh he responds to the points that Sorcha made by saying Sorcha shows off her ass and Sorcha has a nice body and none of you none of you find fault with that none of you I mean you know what we're all gonna pretend that sources the one at fault here like Sorcha didn't bring something of substance she did durianrider just had a sincere response yeah you know what sources got a point the dude has no core message yeah you know what this is worth talking about you know what G whether or not spending your life sitting on the couch playing video games whether or not that's you know hey maybe that's problematic maybe but something we need to think about you know and I mean one of the things that PewDiePie himself ridiculed in our cheetah and others have gone into ridicule Saoirse for is that you know Sorcha had the honesty to say hey you know what it doesn't matter if you if you raise millions of dollars for charity you still ain't [ __ ] maybe that makes us nasty horrible people but sure as vegans we all feel that way you [ __ ] kidding me there's a clip here on YouTube it's just a matter of keeping your how wants you want to be you want to play a phony [ __ ] game like a natural vegan or do you want to keep it real there's a clip on YouTube of Bill Gates uh where he says that he thinks in the future everyone should be vegan I don't to my knowledge he's never lifted a finger to make that happen neither on the large scale of his charity and political activism nor in terms of um you know uh his own diet or ethics or what have you but there's this clip of him saying it at some point he realized veganism is connected to you know ecology and things to meaningful way okay guess what Bill Gates I don't care if you've given ten million dollars to charity I'm vegan from my perspective you still ain't [ __ ] I we all feel that way we're it's just a question of how honest you're gonna be about it do you listen to rap music are you familiar with the phrase it ain't trickin if you got it this is related to our equally profound phrase it ain't pimpin if you got it giving a million dollars to charity really doesn't mean much when you got millions and millions of dollars in your pocket havin the self-discipline to you same with Elon Musk I've got a video I don't know if we'll give the link or what I've got a video on Elon Musk on this who's never gone vegan despite all his [ __ ] pretensions due to being an environmentalist another yeah you know what if you're vegan if you regard veganism as a moral baseline if you regard this as something that's you know for everyone which is what Sorcha unapologetically does then yeah you know what you look at a guy like pewdiepie and say hey you could do better you could do more you could do the bare minimum and you look at Elon Musk and you look at Bill Gates and you say guess what you've got millions of dollars you're giving away some percentage of your millions of dollars to charity I expect more I expect better I want you to do what I do every day even though don't have millions of dollars because I think this is crucially important to who I am as a human being to the future of planet Earth and to the suffering of millions of animals day by day what the [ __ ] oh you people so pathetic what was this your chance to try to stunt on Sorcha like your channel is so much more intellectually sophisticated and sorceress I don't do that I do have intellectually sophisticated content but so what what I appreciate is anyone keeping it real and exactly what you're punishing Sorcha for is keeping it real and the only video I've seen from anybody respond to this that was keeping it real to be honest is durianrider and you know durianrider and i have beef you know durianrider and i could have come to blows in chiang mai or whatever it was the great summit haha of youtube jerks in in chiang mai but no durianrider actually brought something real to this game and what I see from everyone else is some combination of phony and idiocy