Why is it left-wing to be anti-war? Is there a conservative peace movement… yet?

if you really think about the meaning of
the word conservative there is absolutely no reason why it would be conservative to be pro-war and there's no reason why expanding new frontiers of warfare would be described under any cultural conditions as conservative nevertheless in 2019 this is one of the most widespread phenomena in the world in Japan right now Japan's history of democracy radically fundamentally different from Canada the United States radically fundamentally alien from what's going on politically in Western Europe in Japan would you describe the left wing or the right wing as pro-peace which side wants to expand the military which side wants to be involved in foreign interventions in military adventures build up the military status Japan is it the right wing of the left wing and why I mean the overall question raised by this video why is it left wing to be anti-war or in other words is there a conservative peace movement yet now even if it were entirely cynical it would make sense for conservatives to have an anti-war propa smoove Minh Tevan who were purely for cynical electoral reasons and we saw this demonstrated dramatically in the contest between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in the United States when it was very clear that Hillary Clinton was a hundred and ten percent bellicose and pro-war the voting public looked for any little crumb any little indication that Donald Trump was relatively anti-war or relatively Pro peace and there were a few incoherent things that Donald Trump said you guys may not remember this now but Donald Trump said spontaneously in contrast to Hillary Clinton Hillary Clinton making very negative statements about Russia and being more or less at war with Russia Trump simply said if we could be in alliance with Russia against Isis against the Islamic state that would be good we need various vague and perhaps misleading statements about the extent to which he was the pro-peace candidate now obviously an earlier stage of the same election it was really Bernie Sanders who was the Pro peace candidate and now Donald Trump is in power and you see just a little interest yes in peace but nevertheless my point is here in a world of finite political choices in the United States of America the choices are more finite than anywhere else you might expect that somewhere on planet Earth whether in Japan or Greece or England or Ireland or Canada somewhere conservatism would be associated with being Pro peace or anti war you guys can leave me messages in the comment section you can tell me if you know anywhere on earth where the right-wing or where the Conservatives are associated with peace and the anti-war movement you tell me where I can't think of a single example and the strange thing is the wars were talking about are mutually alien the situation that Greece is in with that long-standing hostility between Greece and Turkey has absolutely nothing in common with the situation that Japan is in where one of their major concerns is North Korea and yet nevertheless we have this left versus right spectrum of values that seems to cross all cultures and through at least several periods of time seemingly about the last 50 years and has this consistent pattern what I'm going to read you right now is an article that illustrates an example to the contrary quote how to describe u.s. foreign policy over the last couple of decades question mark disasterous comes to mind arrogant and murderous also seem appropriate close quote you might think this is the beginning of a left-wing diatribe in The Guardian newspaper it is not this isn't the publication known as the national interest it is written by Doug bandow Doug bandow is a representative of the Cato Institute the Cato Institute was co-founded by Murray Rothbard here is a rare example of a right-wing voice I can't say conservative right-wing libertarian voice that is Pro peace and anti-war nowadays I'm Murray Rothbard went all the way with this theme okay Murray Rothbard went so far and so consistently in this direction that he openly claimed the United States in his opinion shouldn't have entered World War two to defeat Nazis so his kids version of conservatism equates to isolationism isolationism even when the situation is literally Adolf Hitler is going to conquer Europe and Adolf Hitler is going to murder Massacre millions of people Murray Rothbard position the Cato Institute's position that they still represent in u.s. foreign policy debates within the panoply of options the diversity of voices in American democracy still to this day they represent the right-wing isolationist pro-peace option and I think it's worth debating it's worth discussing maybe that is the only sincere pro-peace position in 2019 my parents were quote unquote peace activists they were communists the reality was they were in favor of every war fought by and for communist powers they supported the Soviet Union when the Soviet Union and get invaded Afghanistan they supported every crummy war the Soviet Union was involved in if the Soviet War pardon me if the Soviet Union in the Czech Republic to crush dissent there back that I resent no questions asked um but they oppose Wars when the United States was a pursuing one objective or another what they wanted ultimately were wars that the Communists could win it was a completely phony completely insincere peace movement and I was a very small child asking them the meanings of these different buttons and slogans and posters we had in our home variously expressing anti-nuclear and anti-war sentiments and my parents were trying to explain to me that really their anti-war position meant war in 1998 Secretary of State Albright declared that quote if we have to use force it is because we are America we are the indispensable nation we stand tall and we see further than other countries into the future and we see the danger here to all of us so that was a quote from Madeleine Albright within this article close quote even if her claim was implausible America blundered into the Korean War and barely achieved a passive welcome the Johnson administration infused Vietnam with dramatically outsized importance for decades Washington foolishly refused to engage the People's Republic of China Washington backed dictators in cuba nicaragua iran and elsewhere fell in gloriously an economic embargo against Cuba that continues to this day helped to turn Fidel Castro into a global folk hero Washington veered dangerously close to nuclear war with Moscow during the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962 and again two decades later during military exercises in Europe US officials were rarely prepared for events that occurred in the next week or month let alone years later Americans did no better than the French in Vietnam Americans managed events in Africa no better than the British French and Portuguese colonial overlords Washington made more than its share of bad even awful decisions in dealing with other nations around the globe perhaps the worst failing of u.s. foreign policy was ignoring the inevitable impact of foreign intervention Americans would never passively accept another nation bombing and fading and occupying their nation or interfering with their political system even if outgunned they would resist yet Washington has undertaken all of these practices with little consideration of the impact of those most affected hence the rise of terrorism against the United States terrorism horrid an awful though it is became the weapon of choice of weaker peoples against intervention by the world's industrialized nations it's paused so I'm gonna read another paragraph of this it's a very careful and very slanted selection of examples he gives you quote America blundered into the Korean War and barely achieved a passable outcome close quote have you been to South Korea have you been there I mean people are not such bumpkins now in 2019 have you watched South Korean movies South Korean TV shows maybe YouTube videos can you imagine what an unbelievable horror it would be what an unbelievable tragedy would be if South Korea today were ruled by the communist dictatorship in North Korea do you have any heart at all do you have a human heart I know it's less dramatic than the example of the Nazis in Europe but it's not all that much less dramatic you know and you're just gonna say here that America blundered into the Korean War and barely achieved a passive locum do you know they didn't just fight against the Korean army they fought against the Chinese army they fought against numerically one of the largest armies in the world not the best armed not the most high-tech but nevertheless enormous in the United States with a very very small commitment force of the United States won and they won without using nuclear weapons which they could have done that's Korean war is no joke there were crimes against humanity there were atrocities committed by the Americans and it's really important you meant that history and learn from it it's really really important but nevertheless I think this type of argument in 2019 is getting more and more difficult to make I made a video recently talking about the current situation in Afghanistan and you know what it may be more difficult for you to sympathize with the kind of secular educated middle class minority in Afghanistan people who embrace Western democratic values to some extent their lives are going to be irreparably destroyed if you allow the Taliban to reconquer Afghanistan and that's what's happening right now do you have a heart chef nope do you have any human sympathy and conversely this warrant Afghanistan has gone on for such a long time you know that educated westernized middle class minority if the United States hadn't invaded in the first place they would not exist at all or they would exist as refugees in some other country they wouldn't be living in Afghanistan they would have had to have run away from the Taliban and form somewhere else all of these examples you know Cuba you name it there's another way to tell this same story and this line of reasoning I think I think the fact that airplane tickets have become cheaper and cheaper and access to information through the internet has become easier and easier I think that the isolationist view of Murray Rothbard has become harder and harder to argue for in this day and age even though believe me I mean I look back at the last few decades of what happened in Afghanistan and Iraq I am just as skeptical as anyone else I'm just as capable of trumped-up moral indignation as anyone else but the question of fighting a moral war versus an immoral war is very very different from the question of isolationism versus in vention and hey if you think it's so great you know when you don't intervene take a look at what happened in Myanmar in the 20th century and even 21st century look at the decades and decades during which time you know really the United States should have intervened in Myanmar and they didn't and it was a disaster look at the decades and decades during which the United States should have intervened in North Korea and they didn't unbelievable humanitarian so this is the game we're playing all right the United States of returning to this article I quote quote the United States record since September 11th has been uniquely counterproductive rather than minimize hostility towards America Washington adopted a policy highlighted by launching new Wars killing more civilians and ravaging additional societies guaranteed to create enemies exacerbate radicalism and spread terrorism blowback is everywhere among the worst examples Iraqi insurgents mutated into Isis which reach military havoc throughout the Middle East and turn to terrorism when you think about the meaning of the word conservative and you think about what really defines the left-wing you know the rational pursuit of new and far-flung horizons it makes sense it even makes sense on a religious level in terms of Christianity as a faith which in the Western world is still this important and influential part of conservatism it makes sense that the Conservatives would be the voice for peace and that it would be the left-wing saying that we ought to morally go out and fight so that the people of Afghanistan can have a secular liberal left-wing future so that in future the people of Afghanistan can be more like us can enjoy our liberties our privileges that from a left-wing perspective hope for the future of Afghanistan is worth fighting for hope for the future of Myanmar hope for the future of Vietnam would actually make sense if the left were the ones arguing for war and the Conservatives were the ones arguing for peace but if there is a voice for peace on the right-wing on the moderate right or amongst conservatives in the 21st century we have yet to hear it