The Mars Colony is Never Gonna Happen: Outer Space is Bunk.
14 September 2017 [link youtube]
I grew up being taught a lot of lies about space exploration and the future of humanity's place in the solar system/galaxy. Really, I had to learn that much of what I was taught as "science" (in this respect) was just as much a fable as hearing about elves or yetis in the forest, etc.
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this is one of the great things about
live streaming is I get questions and topics and suggestions I would never think of speaking on but sometimes they're actually meaningful to me so the question was about whether or not I think aliens would be vegan if aliens come to earth but for me this sparks off a different set of questions I grew up with a lot of lies a lot of lies in my family a lot allies in politics nationalist lies too so you know my girlfriend year is American but Canada has its own crummy form of nationalism well if you grew up in Canada you get taught the Canada's the greatest country in the world and various hard to believe ways I mean join the Canadian military they were trying to tell me all the ways in which the Canadian Army was like the best they were not very crazy it was like really really you think the US Marine Corps recruiter across the street it's funny you're like I grew up with lies of various kinds and one that I figured out quite late in life you know one of the lies that was a mess that I realized was I was basically everything I was taught about space exploration the future of human industry in space I guess you'd say and the plausibility of interstellar travel interplanetary travel interactions as aliens and that kind of thing because I'm not just talking about like like TV shows like Star Trek or something the textbooks at the science textbooks I had what I was taught in school really made it out to be like a simple scientific fact that within my lifetime human beings were gonna be dragging asteroids from the asteroid belt to earth and breaking them up and mining them you know I remember the illustrations these beautiful illustrations of this you know and of course it seems attainable it's like well you know so many decades ago people went to the moon now we're putting a probe on Mars it for a child especially when you're taught that from an early age again and again I mean some people find it easy to leave the Canada's the greatest country in the world but it's easier to believe that people are gonna be mining asteroids or even that we're gonna be interacting with aliens and it was pretty late in life I had the kind of you know the twig snapped and I realized space aliens for my generation are just as ridiculous as elves 500 years ago you know some of the low is their more ridiculous I mean elves but theory elves are just a creature in the forest you don't see that often no like if the forest exists you get believe in it's something like an elf that was the you know that was a shock I mean those something's much other you know I didn't think of space Islands and again I guess I should be clear it's not the point is not that somewhere in the universe impossibly far away of course evolution could happen on some other planet on some other star the point is whether or not it's plausible or possible in any way for us to travel to that planet or vice versa for us to interact with or communicate with them and indeed I mean I saw a youtube video recently just getting into the number of tons of dynamite that it would take to move an asteroid from the asteroid belt to the earth and you can draw a diagram here's the size of the asteroid here's the size of the massive of TNT or any other explosives and it's ridiculous you know when it's you know and that's not still this day I assume that's not what we're teaching children we're not teaching children space aliens and space travel this is really a figment of the imagination instead we're teaching them this is the greatest possible use of taxpayers dollars you know what I mean that NASA is paving a golden road to exactly these impossible things yeah I have thought about this if vegan if okay so if an alien is advanced enough to make it to planet Earth I don't you know I would hope that they would be I would hope that they would have reached a level of intelligence and peace and harmony within their culture to be vegan but I don't know what if you have a race of aliens that are is more similar to the blue whale that yes krill you know blue whales will never be vegan you know yeah I've also you know if if they are intelligent enough to make it here maybe they would also just see it earth as a resource to mine so yeah maybe maybe not at all maybe not at all possible okay I give you another example they eat anything on our planet anyways but look so you know the website PayPal the multi-millionaire founder of the website PayPal he has this program to colonize Mars and there's so much wrong with it and again it's the easiest thing to show children I saw in science textbooks pictures of people like farming on Mars right and they're not telling you the soil on Mars is not soil the soil on Mars contains the same stuff women used to bleach their hair blonde yeah hydrogen peroxide right it's completely but doesn't matter if you pour water on the soil in Mars it will fizz up due to the hydrogen peroxide it's like no this is alien in a profound chemical sense so again like you know Mars is right next door to Earth is the same solar system saying you know we have a lot in common with Mars and yet really if you just do a cost-benefit breakdown it would be easier for us to have a an orbiting you know space platform around Mars than to ever build a colony on the surface of Mars there is just no advantage we can't like not only is it that you can't breathe the air like the gases and chemicals and what the soil is made of to say it's toxic to human life is an understatement it's totally antithetical to our existence so when you understand that which again I didn't understand as a joke I was really told a bunch of lies that made it seem like Mars is just the next continent like you know Europeans colonized North America and then the next thing is Google ours and we're shown these images constantly aliens that are as human as elves are you know I mean the same way an elf is basically the same as a person except for a few special features you know and you realize okay so any life-form anything like right well they're not gonna they're not gonna breathe the same gas as we breathe or you know the issues of the food chain that would exist ethically or otherwise just well you mentioned you know it's beyond Delia we were talking about dinosaurs the other day trying to clone dinosaurs and your interventioning that you you really can't because they can't eat the food that we have yeah they can't eat modern plant life the plant the plants that have evolved at this point yeah right mara vegetations go right now alright so if something like that actually used to live on this earth can't ya be cloned to survive today yeah what are the chances that an alien race would come here it'd be able to decide to be vegan like Oh anyway look obviously it's it's a it's a hypothetical question that's lately been popularized by ask yourself and vegan gains because it's really asking if aliens came here how would you want them to behave right but I mean I think that is a pretty ethically weak position during the Vietnam War you know Americans will have you know you couldn't really just say to Americans well if if Vietnam we're bombing America how would you want them to behave you can ask that question don't go it's not a flawed question but where do you think that conversation goes yeah it's like okay well we can discuss what rules of engagement or what ethical you laws we would like the Vietnamese debate if they were bombing America however the reality the situation we're in is that American bombing Vietnam yeah so you know where do we go with this I hope instant off to have interstellar travel you know advanced enough to figure out veganism or just not be not via a species that would you know I told you I mean this this is this is the tragedy of human nature right it's like well if you were the Conqueror of North America you know how would you want to be treated you know I mean if you were being conquered how would you want the Conqueror to treat you and it's different when you're the one doing the conquering you know what I mean that I don't think that's a shallow tragedy in human nature it's a profound tragedy that we see again and again and again and you know we can ask the question but I think in some ways it leads us to them answers and what I'm really ders did morally whether we're talking about bombing Vietnam or conquest or colonization or current and ongoing wars or bombing Mosul what I'm really interested in are minimum standards not you know optimal maximum aspirations you know I mean I'm not really Durst in what's perfect for Humanity or the perfection of humanity I'm interested in like okay if you use Agent Orange what are the consequently what are the what are the lowest standards were if you break them there are consequences and then then what are the consequences so I mean you know and that comes out of my my kind of ashen political realism realist nihilistic experience with all these examples here on planet earth but yeah I guess that's really why I see the question about space aliens as being silly it's because we're not asking about what uh what are the you know what standards here but it's you know what so it's a fantasy of how do we imagine human culture civilization alien civilization evolved to the highest level to the highest point some optimum achievement where because they've they're capable of interstellar or space travel they're capable of anything we imagine how how would you imagine the behaving why would you want them to behave but yeah for all I know what I would hope that they would be in but probably not you know this is also unlikely that it's you know that's a wrap
live streaming is I get questions and topics and suggestions I would never think of speaking on but sometimes they're actually meaningful to me so the question was about whether or not I think aliens would be vegan if aliens come to earth but for me this sparks off a different set of questions I grew up with a lot of lies a lot of lies in my family a lot allies in politics nationalist lies too so you know my girlfriend year is American but Canada has its own crummy form of nationalism well if you grew up in Canada you get taught the Canada's the greatest country in the world and various hard to believe ways I mean join the Canadian military they were trying to tell me all the ways in which the Canadian Army was like the best they were not very crazy it was like really really you think the US Marine Corps recruiter across the street it's funny you're like I grew up with lies of various kinds and one that I figured out quite late in life you know one of the lies that was a mess that I realized was I was basically everything I was taught about space exploration the future of human industry in space I guess you'd say and the plausibility of interstellar travel interplanetary travel interactions as aliens and that kind of thing because I'm not just talking about like like TV shows like Star Trek or something the textbooks at the science textbooks I had what I was taught in school really made it out to be like a simple scientific fact that within my lifetime human beings were gonna be dragging asteroids from the asteroid belt to earth and breaking them up and mining them you know I remember the illustrations these beautiful illustrations of this you know and of course it seems attainable it's like well you know so many decades ago people went to the moon now we're putting a probe on Mars it for a child especially when you're taught that from an early age again and again I mean some people find it easy to leave the Canada's the greatest country in the world but it's easier to believe that people are gonna be mining asteroids or even that we're gonna be interacting with aliens and it was pretty late in life I had the kind of you know the twig snapped and I realized space aliens for my generation are just as ridiculous as elves 500 years ago you know some of the low is their more ridiculous I mean elves but theory elves are just a creature in the forest you don't see that often no like if the forest exists you get believe in it's something like an elf that was the you know that was a shock I mean those something's much other you know I didn't think of space Islands and again I guess I should be clear it's not the point is not that somewhere in the universe impossibly far away of course evolution could happen on some other planet on some other star the point is whether or not it's plausible or possible in any way for us to travel to that planet or vice versa for us to interact with or communicate with them and indeed I mean I saw a youtube video recently just getting into the number of tons of dynamite that it would take to move an asteroid from the asteroid belt to the earth and you can draw a diagram here's the size of the asteroid here's the size of the massive of TNT or any other explosives and it's ridiculous you know when it's you know and that's not still this day I assume that's not what we're teaching children we're not teaching children space aliens and space travel this is really a figment of the imagination instead we're teaching them this is the greatest possible use of taxpayers dollars you know what I mean that NASA is paving a golden road to exactly these impossible things yeah I have thought about this if vegan if okay so if an alien is advanced enough to make it to planet Earth I don't you know I would hope that they would be I would hope that they would have reached a level of intelligence and peace and harmony within their culture to be vegan but I don't know what if you have a race of aliens that are is more similar to the blue whale that yes krill you know blue whales will never be vegan you know yeah I've also you know if if they are intelligent enough to make it here maybe they would also just see it earth as a resource to mine so yeah maybe maybe not at all maybe not at all possible okay I give you another example they eat anything on our planet anyways but look so you know the website PayPal the multi-millionaire founder of the website PayPal he has this program to colonize Mars and there's so much wrong with it and again it's the easiest thing to show children I saw in science textbooks pictures of people like farming on Mars right and they're not telling you the soil on Mars is not soil the soil on Mars contains the same stuff women used to bleach their hair blonde yeah hydrogen peroxide right it's completely but doesn't matter if you pour water on the soil in Mars it will fizz up due to the hydrogen peroxide it's like no this is alien in a profound chemical sense so again like you know Mars is right next door to Earth is the same solar system saying you know we have a lot in common with Mars and yet really if you just do a cost-benefit breakdown it would be easier for us to have a an orbiting you know space platform around Mars than to ever build a colony on the surface of Mars there is just no advantage we can't like not only is it that you can't breathe the air like the gases and chemicals and what the soil is made of to say it's toxic to human life is an understatement it's totally antithetical to our existence so when you understand that which again I didn't understand as a joke I was really told a bunch of lies that made it seem like Mars is just the next continent like you know Europeans colonized North America and then the next thing is Google ours and we're shown these images constantly aliens that are as human as elves are you know I mean the same way an elf is basically the same as a person except for a few special features you know and you realize okay so any life-form anything like right well they're not gonna they're not gonna breathe the same gas as we breathe or you know the issues of the food chain that would exist ethically or otherwise just well you mentioned you know it's beyond Delia we were talking about dinosaurs the other day trying to clone dinosaurs and your interventioning that you you really can't because they can't eat the food that we have yeah they can't eat modern plant life the plant the plants that have evolved at this point yeah right mara vegetations go right now alright so if something like that actually used to live on this earth can't ya be cloned to survive today yeah what are the chances that an alien race would come here it'd be able to decide to be vegan like Oh anyway look obviously it's it's a it's a hypothetical question that's lately been popularized by ask yourself and vegan gains because it's really asking if aliens came here how would you want them to behave right but I mean I think that is a pretty ethically weak position during the Vietnam War you know Americans will have you know you couldn't really just say to Americans well if if Vietnam we're bombing America how would you want them to behave you can ask that question don't go it's not a flawed question but where do you think that conversation goes yeah it's like okay well we can discuss what rules of engagement or what ethical you laws we would like the Vietnamese debate if they were bombing America however the reality the situation we're in is that American bombing Vietnam yeah so you know where do we go with this I hope instant off to have interstellar travel you know advanced enough to figure out veganism or just not be not via a species that would you know I told you I mean this this is this is the tragedy of human nature right it's like well if you were the Conqueror of North America you know how would you want to be treated you know I mean if you were being conquered how would you want the Conqueror to treat you and it's different when you're the one doing the conquering you know what I mean that I don't think that's a shallow tragedy in human nature it's a profound tragedy that we see again and again and again and you know we can ask the question but I think in some ways it leads us to them answers and what I'm really ders did morally whether we're talking about bombing Vietnam or conquest or colonization or current and ongoing wars or bombing Mosul what I'm really interested in are minimum standards not you know optimal maximum aspirations you know I mean I'm not really Durst in what's perfect for Humanity or the perfection of humanity I'm interested in like okay if you use Agent Orange what are the consequently what are the what are the lowest standards were if you break them there are consequences and then then what are the consequences so I mean you know and that comes out of my my kind of ashen political realism realist nihilistic experience with all these examples here on planet earth but yeah I guess that's really why I see the question about space aliens as being silly it's because we're not asking about what uh what are the you know what standards here but it's you know what so it's a fantasy of how do we imagine human culture civilization alien civilization evolved to the highest level to the highest point some optimum achievement where because they've they're capable of interstellar or space travel they're capable of anything we imagine how how would you imagine the behaving why would you want them to behave but yeah for all I know what I would hope that they would be in but probably not you know this is also unlikely that it's you know that's a wrap