ProJared Told the Truth: the Witch Hunt Mentality.
25 May 2019 [link youtube]
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wouldn't it be reassuring to imagine
that witch hunts are a thing of the past wouldn't it be reassuring to imagine that we live in the enlightened age of the Internet where people are no longer so eager to tear each other down now I just draw your attention back to the very first sentence in this screenshot even though Jared and I had not been physical at all she and Jared never slept together and we have the screenshots showing Heidi the wife here directly encouraging them to have sex together I'll just put these on screen I won't read this out and chariot writes back after these text text messages from his wife saying like okay you two go ahead and have sex and he writes back sorry we went for a walk with lots of soul-searching period now by contrast okay someone like rep seein one hundred and forty three thousand views on this completely factually false completely hypocritical moral condemnation approach Aaron why aren't you following up why aren't you having some meaningful discussion or apology or retracted delete the video but also put up a video and you know do what a journalist would do you know New York Times to say correction on page fourteen you you're you're really in the wrong here if you grew up in the United States or Great Britain you probably grew up with this phrase witch hunt being a big part of your education you learned about history in England in America of literally hunting and persecuting witches and sometimes these stories were told to us as kids with a bit of a wink and a smile kind of smug a sense of how we're fine and we'll educated we are in the modern era compared to the darkness of the dark ages sometimes it was instead given as a cautionary tale say oh but look at the persecution of communists and a certain period in American history look at how witch hunts emerged against homosexuals another minor and sometimes it was with the reassuring sense that the era of witch hunts is over what the Internet has shown us is that human nature doesn't change from the very very first announcement of this so-called scandal between Pro Jared and his wife I knew what the situation was and what I mean is by reading only one side of the story the most dishonest and manipulative side of the story is jilted ex-wife just from her account of events I could tell what the reality of the situation was and that reflects Who I am and my experience with relationships and even in a sense my level of literacy I could tell by paying close attention to what she was saying and what she was not saying and now in the passage of about two weeks various sources have come out including just the collapse of the ex-wife's case she's basically admitted the extent to which she lied and misled people although she does so and with it's flattering to herself but you know what carries on the witch-hunt the witch-hunt mentality these people 700 thousand views on a video harshly condemning Pro Jared a hundred and forty thousand views in a video these people will never apologize they'll never issue a correction they'll never even say something as neutralized Wow I wish I'd bought a book on journalism 101 and followed basic procedures of journalistic ethics fact checking checking sources no he'll never hear that from them there they're happy I mean sorry just look at this guy's face I'm not saying this to shame him because of his appearance I mean different people came out of the woodwork to practice their sense of moral superiority on this issue some of them are beautiful and some of them are ugly but what most of them have in common is that they do not have a lot of experience with relationships because what they have experience with is if games now these two guys in particular rep SIA and review tech USA these two guys I think they have especially little experience with relations the opposite sex yeah partly based on appearances rep C and also I know he had a very conservative Christian upbringing it's part of his emergence onto YouTube was him becoming an atheist and rejecting that upbringing I know he's someone who's not really comfortable with his own sexuality and in this case he got to demonstrate to the world just how uncomfortable he is with someone else's sexuality okay so that you guys know I'm talking about let's jump to some primary sources here quote in early 2018 Heidi told Pro Jared she wanted him to explore his feelings for me she was enjoying the advantages of an open relationship including a long-term boyfriend and wanted Jared to do the same Jared and his wife were in an open so-called polyamorous relationship for reasons you'll even see within this video I think it's a lot more responsible to use the term open relationship and not the term polyamory you will soon see why even though Jared and I had not been physical at all Heidi called me from Jared's phone and screamed at me I asked her what she wanted me to do telling her I would do anything to help her feel better all she did was scream go away she continued to be arranged I conveyed to her that was happy to just be friends and professional colleagues at Pro Jared her response was a fit of rage later in February 2018 she called me from Jared's number and how old I want my husband to think of me not you during sex I tried to apologize multiple times to Heidi I tried gifts and words but nothing was enough for her I wasn't even sure what I was apologizing for I just wanted to make her feel better and not be angry but there was nothing I could do or say now I just draw your attention back to the very first sentence in this screenshot even though Jared and I had not been physical at all she and Jared never slept together and we have the screenshots showing Heidi the wife here directly encouraging them to have sex together I'll just put these on screen I won't read this out and chariot writes back after these text text messages from his wife saying like okay you two go ahead and have sex and he writes back sorry we went for a walk with lots of soul-searching period so you can see his wife was cool with him having a sexual relationship with another woman but evidently actually felt more threatened by what was just some kind of intellectual relationship these are all people who struggle with their sexuality struggle with relationships struggle to handle these situations because they're putting huge amounts of time into hobbies that are fundamentally childlike and keep them locked in a rudimentary stage of development hey it's a hot take I know but how would you feel if it was someone with any other kind of compulsion if it was someone who spent all their time gambling and playing cards you'd say well you've kind of developed the social skills and habits of someone who spends all his time hanging out in casinos if it was someone who was from the earliest years an athlete let's say a professional boxer a professional tennis player it's like look you spent all your time you know in training and a certain kind of very strange social situation and now you come out in the real world and you can't tell these situations so well but we all know video games are actually much more isolating than that the experience of playing a video game for 12 hours is more a social it's more socially retarding let's be honest here than the experience of being a competitive athlete or even being a gambler games got to have some face to face interact with people unless it's computer gambling I suppose so look you guys have already seen this on screen if you're going to come out and condemn somebody on the Internet pause to ask yourself one how would I feel if someone were doing this to me and to how it is my cadence differ from how we discuss this face-to-face in a top coffee shop Pam says cos I think there are all kinds of issues that are worthwhile and important to come out and morally condemn people about the crown prince of Norway and is completely hypocritical statements about ecology you know sure well there are all kinds of public figures enough to youtubers this there's an infinite you know range of legitimate criticism at any given time and you gotta question your own motivation your own means and your own responsibility and if even if you are a youtuber you have to think in terms of journalistic integrity or to be blunt personal integrity hey guys I've had controversies on this channel the single most deeply felt was actually my book review of motivational methods for vegan advocacy by Casey Taff that guy was devastated by negative review I did his book let's go back to points 1 & 2 I just raised exactly what I said in that book review and even the same cadence I used I would have said to him face to face in coffee shop absolutely I'm not ashamed of what I said or how I said in the book review at all obviously it's a monologue rather than a dialogue but I'm not sure I would break down the same points room and number one how would I feel some were doing this me I would feel great I would be so glad if someone did for a book or an essay that I've written what I did in reading that book and when he got in touch with me that guy he went all the way he completely lost his composure but everyone who say he was completely broken up by this by having someone you know take apart his book and a critique in a youtube video um I said well you know what do you mean I read your book and my criticism of your book it's closely following the taxing it really shows that I've read your book I'm smart I'm not making something up about your sex life I'm not making something up about your relationship with your wife or your husband I'm not making something up about your financial situation and you know all of those things have happened to me I've had so many insane conspiracy theories and completely false rumors created about me still to this day not a single not a single complaint about me was based on anything real weather or sexual financial otherwise it's all been lies and I even feel there are things worth worth criticizing worth the complaining about you know but it's all it's all been fiction you know so I just say that kind of confrontation review I feel completely morally positive that what do you mean you published this book I read it I did a criticism my criticism is really about the book it's not assassinating your character or slander me it's not speaking in response but I'm not making things up about the book I'm not lying but what's the book so I would feel great if someone did this to me even if they disagree with me and believe me when you write about Buddhist philosophy it's so depressing that nobody is responding to the actual substance of what you've written I've had I've had hit peace I've had to slander against me from Buddhist monks Buddhist monks in full robes have written slam someone you know what I'm talking about human nature doesn't change we're living in a digitally amplified world of ever ongoing witch hunts and I've been the target of that more than most and it's tragic it's really sad that today it's it's Pro Jarrod's turn to mention somebody who should have a thick skin about this one of the people who freaked out and hated me for what I said about Nina and Rhonda was vegan foot soldier so if you guys don't know if Egon foot soldier he basically has a comedy channel makes a lot of jokes and some of its course humor some of its crude humor and he insults people especially people like my natural being other vegans in the movement he has really harsh insults against them sometimes about their physical appearance I've seen him insult unnatural begin for being ugly and so on and being fat and what-have-you so you might think that guy would have a very detached down-to-earth attitude about my critique of of Nina and Randa which again for me it completely satisfies those two moans how would I feel if someone said this me what I said about Nina Aranda that sparked the controversy was I said look within the vegan movement people are saying you're so beautiful and you can be great actresses and great musicians but the reality is you live in Los Angeles there's a lot of competition and we as vegans we shouldn't have this small town mentality like just because someone's vegan we say they're beautiful or just because someone's speaking we say they were a great musician or a great actor they're not they're just someone who happens to be vegan and the reality is when these young women women in their 20s by the way when they go to an audition in Los Angeles they're not outstandingly beautiful they're not people for whom the doors of Hollywood are gonna open easily there they actually have a really tough struggle ahead of them every time they go to an audition and again if someone said exactly the same things about me I would agree you know I don't think I'm someone who's good-looking enough that I can get by on YouTube or whatever that I can scrape by on my looks so you know I in various circumstances in my life I think that's that's worth talking about and is meaningful and again even the cadence how I said it and so on you know and then serve but in that case this relates back to the main topic here how did I follow it up we can look on screen we had some really meaningful conversations that including some videos I did with my girlfriend it's a long time ago you may not remember but you know we did a video called Nina and Randa say everyone is beautiful we don't I was talking about that like look you know some people subscribe to this thing I'm saying everyone's people time you know and and we don't say everyone's brilliant and we don't say everyone's gifted we don't say you know we don't say everyone's a genius we don't say everyone's talented it's not not our approach to life and reflecting on that and I have a playlist called stop treating women like infants it's all very meaningful discourse I really stand behind now by contrast okay someone like rep seein one hundred and forty three thousand views on this completely factually false completely hypocritical moral condemnation of Pro Jared why aren't you following up why aren't you having some meaningful discussion or apology or retraction delete the video but also put up a video and you know do what a journalist would do you know New York Times to say correction on page 14 you you're you're really in the wrong here factually wrong and morally wrong the other guy the the fat guy review tech USA it's shameful in that picture that image of that's that's frame one of the video he opens giggling laughing he would yet gleeful disregard for the truth gleeful disregard for the facts he was smugly glorying in another person's misfortune absolutely absolutely zero personal integrity I'm leaving out the most salacious screenshots that absolutely confirm the brutally sexual nature of the open relationship that Pro Jared and his ex-wife had I don't blame them why do you think grown adults go to cosplay events this is basically a form of BDSM for grownups it's candy-coated BDSM it's really not so different from the people who want to dress up in skin tight leather and skin tight latex and go to those events in a lot of the people who go to those two types of events are the same people the people who have a dedicated walk-in closet for this kind of ludicrously vain complex outfit and they're going there to meet some of those other people they can connect with on that wavelength yeah in some ways there's more to it than that and in some ways there's less to it than that they're people who are into some kind of kinky open relationship sex who also want to meet someone who plays the same video games they play or watch the same Japanese movies they play sure but guess what I think if you go to the the leather or clubs if you go to BDSM events people they are also one of me people who watch the same movies they watch on dating websites it's the same crap it's so depressing if you're single you look at the one of the main things is oh I love Lord of the Rings I play dungeon chariots oh my god that's what that's what a lot of people want to meet so I don't I don't hate them for that I think sex can be meaningful in adult people's lives and I do not think that playing Megaman on the Sony Playstation can be meaningful in adult lives so if there's anything in this guy's life I harshly judge and condemn it's not the sex and I mean it just reflects the type of people doing this this which on how how lacking they are and you know any any sympathy for any understanding for grownups who want to live like grown-ups as I said in the earlier video this guy is not Big Bird this guy did not pretend to be a children's entertainment channel or a children's entertainer or a school teacher or anything else you're judging him by a standard he never tried to live up to now on the other hand I think there are standards all of us have to live up to I think that everyone should try to be an exemplary human being and I think that starts by putting away childish things it starts by recognizing you know the danger and the difficulty of being an adult on planet earth and the few years you've got to make a positive difference in other people's lives for the planet and the few years you've got to try to become a better person yourself even though Pro Jared and I had a long-standing professional platonic relationship Heidi wanted us to never speak again she became extremely jealous and vindictive both Jared and I were scared of her I don't know when's pro Jared started having feelings but I didn't realize that I had them at all until then it was like being pushed into ice water I've talked about being asexual for years I never expected to have feelings for him and it was terrifying on February 7th 2018 Pro Jared took me on a walk despite having Haiti's full permission to do more all we did was talk about our feelings Jared and I were transparent about our discussion with both Heidi and all others involved with the situation so guess what guys the original sexually transmitted disease is love so this could be a kind of heartwarming tale about two nerdy inept video game addicted people whoo you know we're in this kinky situation where they weren't encouraged to have sex they decided not to have sex but they ended up falling in love so again you can see this on screen briefly this is Heidi giving her direct consent for her husband to have sex with this woman but evidently she did not give her consent for them to develop meaningful feelings with each other when projared responded to Heidi's Facebook post neutrally she then enacted the vengeance she'd been planning for a long time she lied about not being polyamorous not having an open relationship and she lied about approving of the nudes she slut-shamed me she did not mention her long-term boyfriend or threats so the point is the boyfriend other than her husband in addition to her husband here are some statements from Heidi of her gloating I could not for the life of me find Jared's gold play button that's the plaque they send out to people who cross the 1 million subscriber threshold I found both his silver play buttons but not the gold it would have been the perfect thing to steal from him because if he asked about it I could say what million subscribers question mark question mark anyway I guess this is my confession of innocence I didn't steal it but I would have if I could have these are just statements showing that she was in a vindictive spiral of trying to take revenge against this guy and destroy his life Angie can you imagine can you imagine a responsible journalist checking against this kind of thing were considering again to me it was odd whenever the first statement the first statement on Twitter I already knew the whole story I'm be honest I didn't guess 90% of it I guessed 100% of it and I think it was obvious to kind of people who have some kind of sophisticated background with relation the objects and guess what guys sympathy is an analytical tool I can even sympathize with Heidi's side of the story she was stupid and immature and vindictive and evil and wrong but she was cool with sex with other people she explicitly talks about three ways with two men and one woman explicitly talks about two women and one men and other women watching them and other women wanting photos of them and him naked it spelled out there okay and she lied she lied saying that there were screenshots on a phone she had discovered that we're gonna back up her side of the story and it has been the opposite she's admitted she doesn't have evidence versus story and on the contrary the screenshots from phones are completely confirming Pro generates Story number five in the United States baby here she's gloating about how popular her her tweet is her tweet denouncing her husband her ex-husband blank said I made him more famous than he's ever been before honestly yeah this is an insanely positive outcome to a horrible situation that I couldn't predict I don't know if it'll last me the rest of my life or whatever but I'm definitely gonna save her it so here we have Heidi gloating about her notoriety or the arm she's doing here Jared and Holly won't address his sexual interactions with fans because they've been legally advised not to there's no quote/unquote rule not to speak about ongoing litigation it's just in their best interest not to address it in case they say something incriminating shame on you patty shame on you think about what you're doing here you're trying to condemn him out of silence after you've admitted that you had no evidence one way or another you just stirred the pot to try to get fans to make up stories or share a rumor innuendo that would condemn this guy they have addressed it and then what they've established is that you're a liar you're a liar and your way of getting out of the lie is by admitting you never know what you were talking about quote I'll reiterate that I didn't specifically bring those allegations against him I only had supporting evidence that indicated he was up to something not true proof but I do believe the people who have come forward since then right here's here's more backpedaling half-truths and covering up lies I never claimed we had a traditional marriage I just gave the facts that mattered I didn't approve of a polyamorous situation between Jared and Holly even that is a lie you've just seen the evidence that's a lie I tried to support it and they immediately broke my trust I'm allowed to revoke consent you elect a lot you're allowed to lie about it after the fact is that what you're saying Heidi I mean again I I knew all this from the first message I could tell this was the game being played from what she said and what she left unsaid quote consenting boundaries aren't hard to understand Jared and Holly continually gasps let me by pretending to not get it no matter how many times I explained in detail I was direct specific sincere I always felt intentionally misunderstood I had nothing to hide from Jared he was up to date and aware of my interactions I had with this one other person so this is the other long-term boyfriend she had and it does in addition to her husband I wonder why you're stating that's so vaguely Heidi you're real explicit when you want to be in a real fake the rest of the time there were no lies no cheating no boundaries crossed on my part that was all I wanted from any polyamorous situation period I didn't get that from him I told you all at the very beginning that I'm not perfect or blameless don't idolize me I am a hurting person who will continue to address my own mistakes I've grown tremendously this past year I know that's the only path to finding real inner peace but you did it Heidi also with the lie that you had this cell phone full of information showing out there was one I didn't see a single journalist doing basic fact-checking basic journalistic ethics were neither on YouTube nor in print what have you wouldn't it be reassuring to imagine that witch hunts are a thing of the past wouldn't it be reassuring to imagine that we live in the enlightened age the Internet where people are no longer so eager to tear each other down what I see is a great deal of insecurity from people who don't feel intelligent themselves and you want to demonstrate through any little vindictive way they can that they're smarter than other people people who don't feel morally confident themselves and you want to vindictively tear down others and prove you're not as moral as you think you are ultimately it's this old pattern of behavior who do you think you are don't you know who I think I am we're living in a future that is increasingly lacking in privacy the challenge now is to ask how can we live with dignity in the absence of privacy when you think about it there's no real particular dignity in just keeping a secret there's nothing particularly moral in living an immoral life that other people don't judge you for just because they don't know what we need to practice as a culture as a world-spanning civilization is going to work with a co-worker when you know they've got nude pictures of themselves somewhere on the internet and still treating them with respect still treating them with dignity before the camera was ever invented people were still naked they were still swimming naked or doing all kinds of things naked outside of office hours and you still had to learn the discipline of treating them with dignity even though you may not approve of what they do in their personal life I think we see that challenge before eyes now more than ever before it's a challenge for the people doing the judging as much as it is a challenge for those of us who are putting our face here on YouTube and being judged [Music]
that witch hunts are a thing of the past wouldn't it be reassuring to imagine that we live in the enlightened age of the Internet where people are no longer so eager to tear each other down now I just draw your attention back to the very first sentence in this screenshot even though Jared and I had not been physical at all she and Jared never slept together and we have the screenshots showing Heidi the wife here directly encouraging them to have sex together I'll just put these on screen I won't read this out and chariot writes back after these text text messages from his wife saying like okay you two go ahead and have sex and he writes back sorry we went for a walk with lots of soul-searching period now by contrast okay someone like rep seein one hundred and forty three thousand views on this completely factually false completely hypocritical moral condemnation approach Aaron why aren't you following up why aren't you having some meaningful discussion or apology or retracted delete the video but also put up a video and you know do what a journalist would do you know New York Times to say correction on page fourteen you you're you're really in the wrong here if you grew up in the United States or Great Britain you probably grew up with this phrase witch hunt being a big part of your education you learned about history in England in America of literally hunting and persecuting witches and sometimes these stories were told to us as kids with a bit of a wink and a smile kind of smug a sense of how we're fine and we'll educated we are in the modern era compared to the darkness of the dark ages sometimes it was instead given as a cautionary tale say oh but look at the persecution of communists and a certain period in American history look at how witch hunts emerged against homosexuals another minor and sometimes it was with the reassuring sense that the era of witch hunts is over what the Internet has shown us is that human nature doesn't change from the very very first announcement of this so-called scandal between Pro Jared and his wife I knew what the situation was and what I mean is by reading only one side of the story the most dishonest and manipulative side of the story is jilted ex-wife just from her account of events I could tell what the reality of the situation was and that reflects Who I am and my experience with relationships and even in a sense my level of literacy I could tell by paying close attention to what she was saying and what she was not saying and now in the passage of about two weeks various sources have come out including just the collapse of the ex-wife's case she's basically admitted the extent to which she lied and misled people although she does so and with it's flattering to herself but you know what carries on the witch-hunt the witch-hunt mentality these people 700 thousand views on a video harshly condemning Pro Jared a hundred and forty thousand views in a video these people will never apologize they'll never issue a correction they'll never even say something as neutralized Wow I wish I'd bought a book on journalism 101 and followed basic procedures of journalistic ethics fact checking checking sources no he'll never hear that from them there they're happy I mean sorry just look at this guy's face I'm not saying this to shame him because of his appearance I mean different people came out of the woodwork to practice their sense of moral superiority on this issue some of them are beautiful and some of them are ugly but what most of them have in common is that they do not have a lot of experience with relationships because what they have experience with is if games now these two guys in particular rep SIA and review tech USA these two guys I think they have especially little experience with relations the opposite sex yeah partly based on appearances rep C and also I know he had a very conservative Christian upbringing it's part of his emergence onto YouTube was him becoming an atheist and rejecting that upbringing I know he's someone who's not really comfortable with his own sexuality and in this case he got to demonstrate to the world just how uncomfortable he is with someone else's sexuality okay so that you guys know I'm talking about let's jump to some primary sources here quote in early 2018 Heidi told Pro Jared she wanted him to explore his feelings for me she was enjoying the advantages of an open relationship including a long-term boyfriend and wanted Jared to do the same Jared and his wife were in an open so-called polyamorous relationship for reasons you'll even see within this video I think it's a lot more responsible to use the term open relationship and not the term polyamory you will soon see why even though Jared and I had not been physical at all Heidi called me from Jared's phone and screamed at me I asked her what she wanted me to do telling her I would do anything to help her feel better all she did was scream go away she continued to be arranged I conveyed to her that was happy to just be friends and professional colleagues at Pro Jared her response was a fit of rage later in February 2018 she called me from Jared's number and how old I want my husband to think of me not you during sex I tried to apologize multiple times to Heidi I tried gifts and words but nothing was enough for her I wasn't even sure what I was apologizing for I just wanted to make her feel better and not be angry but there was nothing I could do or say now I just draw your attention back to the very first sentence in this screenshot even though Jared and I had not been physical at all she and Jared never slept together and we have the screenshots showing Heidi the wife here directly encouraging them to have sex together I'll just put these on screen I won't read this out and chariot writes back after these text text messages from his wife saying like okay you two go ahead and have sex and he writes back sorry we went for a walk with lots of soul-searching period so you can see his wife was cool with him having a sexual relationship with another woman but evidently actually felt more threatened by what was just some kind of intellectual relationship these are all people who struggle with their sexuality struggle with relationships struggle to handle these situations because they're putting huge amounts of time into hobbies that are fundamentally childlike and keep them locked in a rudimentary stage of development hey it's a hot take I know but how would you feel if it was someone with any other kind of compulsion if it was someone who spent all their time gambling and playing cards you'd say well you've kind of developed the social skills and habits of someone who spends all his time hanging out in casinos if it was someone who was from the earliest years an athlete let's say a professional boxer a professional tennis player it's like look you spent all your time you know in training and a certain kind of very strange social situation and now you come out in the real world and you can't tell these situations so well but we all know video games are actually much more isolating than that the experience of playing a video game for 12 hours is more a social it's more socially retarding let's be honest here than the experience of being a competitive athlete or even being a gambler games got to have some face to face interact with people unless it's computer gambling I suppose so look you guys have already seen this on screen if you're going to come out and condemn somebody on the Internet pause to ask yourself one how would I feel if someone were doing this to me and to how it is my cadence differ from how we discuss this face-to-face in a top coffee shop Pam says cos I think there are all kinds of issues that are worthwhile and important to come out and morally condemn people about the crown prince of Norway and is completely hypocritical statements about ecology you know sure well there are all kinds of public figures enough to youtubers this there's an infinite you know range of legitimate criticism at any given time and you gotta question your own motivation your own means and your own responsibility and if even if you are a youtuber you have to think in terms of journalistic integrity or to be blunt personal integrity hey guys I've had controversies on this channel the single most deeply felt was actually my book review of motivational methods for vegan advocacy by Casey Taff that guy was devastated by negative review I did his book let's go back to points 1 & 2 I just raised exactly what I said in that book review and even the same cadence I used I would have said to him face to face in coffee shop absolutely I'm not ashamed of what I said or how I said in the book review at all obviously it's a monologue rather than a dialogue but I'm not sure I would break down the same points room and number one how would I feel some were doing this me I would feel great I would be so glad if someone did for a book or an essay that I've written what I did in reading that book and when he got in touch with me that guy he went all the way he completely lost his composure but everyone who say he was completely broken up by this by having someone you know take apart his book and a critique in a youtube video um I said well you know what do you mean I read your book and my criticism of your book it's closely following the taxing it really shows that I've read your book I'm smart I'm not making something up about your sex life I'm not making something up about your relationship with your wife or your husband I'm not making something up about your financial situation and you know all of those things have happened to me I've had so many insane conspiracy theories and completely false rumors created about me still to this day not a single not a single complaint about me was based on anything real weather or sexual financial otherwise it's all been lies and I even feel there are things worth worth criticizing worth the complaining about you know but it's all it's all been fiction you know so I just say that kind of confrontation review I feel completely morally positive that what do you mean you published this book I read it I did a criticism my criticism is really about the book it's not assassinating your character or slander me it's not speaking in response but I'm not making things up about the book I'm not lying but what's the book so I would feel great if someone did this to me even if they disagree with me and believe me when you write about Buddhist philosophy it's so depressing that nobody is responding to the actual substance of what you've written I've had I've had hit peace I've had to slander against me from Buddhist monks Buddhist monks in full robes have written slam someone you know what I'm talking about human nature doesn't change we're living in a digitally amplified world of ever ongoing witch hunts and I've been the target of that more than most and it's tragic it's really sad that today it's it's Pro Jarrod's turn to mention somebody who should have a thick skin about this one of the people who freaked out and hated me for what I said about Nina and Rhonda was vegan foot soldier so if you guys don't know if Egon foot soldier he basically has a comedy channel makes a lot of jokes and some of its course humor some of its crude humor and he insults people especially people like my natural being other vegans in the movement he has really harsh insults against them sometimes about their physical appearance I've seen him insult unnatural begin for being ugly and so on and being fat and what-have-you so you might think that guy would have a very detached down-to-earth attitude about my critique of of Nina and Randa which again for me it completely satisfies those two moans how would I feel if someone said this me what I said about Nina Aranda that sparked the controversy was I said look within the vegan movement people are saying you're so beautiful and you can be great actresses and great musicians but the reality is you live in Los Angeles there's a lot of competition and we as vegans we shouldn't have this small town mentality like just because someone's vegan we say they're beautiful or just because someone's speaking we say they were a great musician or a great actor they're not they're just someone who happens to be vegan and the reality is when these young women women in their 20s by the way when they go to an audition in Los Angeles they're not outstandingly beautiful they're not people for whom the doors of Hollywood are gonna open easily there they actually have a really tough struggle ahead of them every time they go to an audition and again if someone said exactly the same things about me I would agree you know I don't think I'm someone who's good-looking enough that I can get by on YouTube or whatever that I can scrape by on my looks so you know I in various circumstances in my life I think that's that's worth talking about and is meaningful and again even the cadence how I said it and so on you know and then serve but in that case this relates back to the main topic here how did I follow it up we can look on screen we had some really meaningful conversations that including some videos I did with my girlfriend it's a long time ago you may not remember but you know we did a video called Nina and Randa say everyone is beautiful we don't I was talking about that like look you know some people subscribe to this thing I'm saying everyone's people time you know and and we don't say everyone's brilliant and we don't say everyone's gifted we don't say you know we don't say everyone's a genius we don't say everyone's talented it's not not our approach to life and reflecting on that and I have a playlist called stop treating women like infants it's all very meaningful discourse I really stand behind now by contrast okay someone like rep seein one hundred and forty three thousand views on this completely factually false completely hypocritical moral condemnation of Pro Jared why aren't you following up why aren't you having some meaningful discussion or apology or retraction delete the video but also put up a video and you know do what a journalist would do you know New York Times to say correction on page 14 you you're you're really in the wrong here factually wrong and morally wrong the other guy the the fat guy review tech USA it's shameful in that picture that image of that's that's frame one of the video he opens giggling laughing he would yet gleeful disregard for the truth gleeful disregard for the facts he was smugly glorying in another person's misfortune absolutely absolutely zero personal integrity I'm leaving out the most salacious screenshots that absolutely confirm the brutally sexual nature of the open relationship that Pro Jared and his ex-wife had I don't blame them why do you think grown adults go to cosplay events this is basically a form of BDSM for grownups it's candy-coated BDSM it's really not so different from the people who want to dress up in skin tight leather and skin tight latex and go to those events in a lot of the people who go to those two types of events are the same people the people who have a dedicated walk-in closet for this kind of ludicrously vain complex outfit and they're going there to meet some of those other people they can connect with on that wavelength yeah in some ways there's more to it than that and in some ways there's less to it than that they're people who are into some kind of kinky open relationship sex who also want to meet someone who plays the same video games they play or watch the same Japanese movies they play sure but guess what I think if you go to the the leather or clubs if you go to BDSM events people they are also one of me people who watch the same movies they watch on dating websites it's the same crap it's so depressing if you're single you look at the one of the main things is oh I love Lord of the Rings I play dungeon chariots oh my god that's what that's what a lot of people want to meet so I don't I don't hate them for that I think sex can be meaningful in adult people's lives and I do not think that playing Megaman on the Sony Playstation can be meaningful in adult lives so if there's anything in this guy's life I harshly judge and condemn it's not the sex and I mean it just reflects the type of people doing this this which on how how lacking they are and you know any any sympathy for any understanding for grownups who want to live like grown-ups as I said in the earlier video this guy is not Big Bird this guy did not pretend to be a children's entertainment channel or a children's entertainer or a school teacher or anything else you're judging him by a standard he never tried to live up to now on the other hand I think there are standards all of us have to live up to I think that everyone should try to be an exemplary human being and I think that starts by putting away childish things it starts by recognizing you know the danger and the difficulty of being an adult on planet earth and the few years you've got to make a positive difference in other people's lives for the planet and the few years you've got to try to become a better person yourself even though Pro Jared and I had a long-standing professional platonic relationship Heidi wanted us to never speak again she became extremely jealous and vindictive both Jared and I were scared of her I don't know when's pro Jared started having feelings but I didn't realize that I had them at all until then it was like being pushed into ice water I've talked about being asexual for years I never expected to have feelings for him and it was terrifying on February 7th 2018 Pro Jared took me on a walk despite having Haiti's full permission to do more all we did was talk about our feelings Jared and I were transparent about our discussion with both Heidi and all others involved with the situation so guess what guys the original sexually transmitted disease is love so this could be a kind of heartwarming tale about two nerdy inept video game addicted people whoo you know we're in this kinky situation where they weren't encouraged to have sex they decided not to have sex but they ended up falling in love so again you can see this on screen briefly this is Heidi giving her direct consent for her husband to have sex with this woman but evidently she did not give her consent for them to develop meaningful feelings with each other when projared responded to Heidi's Facebook post neutrally she then enacted the vengeance she'd been planning for a long time she lied about not being polyamorous not having an open relationship and she lied about approving of the nudes she slut-shamed me she did not mention her long-term boyfriend or threats so the point is the boyfriend other than her husband in addition to her husband here are some statements from Heidi of her gloating I could not for the life of me find Jared's gold play button that's the plaque they send out to people who cross the 1 million subscriber threshold I found both his silver play buttons but not the gold it would have been the perfect thing to steal from him because if he asked about it I could say what million subscribers question mark question mark anyway I guess this is my confession of innocence I didn't steal it but I would have if I could have these are just statements showing that she was in a vindictive spiral of trying to take revenge against this guy and destroy his life Angie can you imagine can you imagine a responsible journalist checking against this kind of thing were considering again to me it was odd whenever the first statement the first statement on Twitter I already knew the whole story I'm be honest I didn't guess 90% of it I guessed 100% of it and I think it was obvious to kind of people who have some kind of sophisticated background with relation the objects and guess what guys sympathy is an analytical tool I can even sympathize with Heidi's side of the story she was stupid and immature and vindictive and evil and wrong but she was cool with sex with other people she explicitly talks about three ways with two men and one woman explicitly talks about two women and one men and other women watching them and other women wanting photos of them and him naked it spelled out there okay and she lied she lied saying that there were screenshots on a phone she had discovered that we're gonna back up her side of the story and it has been the opposite she's admitted she doesn't have evidence versus story and on the contrary the screenshots from phones are completely confirming Pro generates Story number five in the United States baby here she's gloating about how popular her her tweet is her tweet denouncing her husband her ex-husband blank said I made him more famous than he's ever been before honestly yeah this is an insanely positive outcome to a horrible situation that I couldn't predict I don't know if it'll last me the rest of my life or whatever but I'm definitely gonna save her it so here we have Heidi gloating about her notoriety or the arm she's doing here Jared and Holly won't address his sexual interactions with fans because they've been legally advised not to there's no quote/unquote rule not to speak about ongoing litigation it's just in their best interest not to address it in case they say something incriminating shame on you patty shame on you think about what you're doing here you're trying to condemn him out of silence after you've admitted that you had no evidence one way or another you just stirred the pot to try to get fans to make up stories or share a rumor innuendo that would condemn this guy they have addressed it and then what they've established is that you're a liar you're a liar and your way of getting out of the lie is by admitting you never know what you were talking about quote I'll reiterate that I didn't specifically bring those allegations against him I only had supporting evidence that indicated he was up to something not true proof but I do believe the people who have come forward since then right here's here's more backpedaling half-truths and covering up lies I never claimed we had a traditional marriage I just gave the facts that mattered I didn't approve of a polyamorous situation between Jared and Holly even that is a lie you've just seen the evidence that's a lie I tried to support it and they immediately broke my trust I'm allowed to revoke consent you elect a lot you're allowed to lie about it after the fact is that what you're saying Heidi I mean again I I knew all this from the first message I could tell this was the game being played from what she said and what she left unsaid quote consenting boundaries aren't hard to understand Jared and Holly continually gasps let me by pretending to not get it no matter how many times I explained in detail I was direct specific sincere I always felt intentionally misunderstood I had nothing to hide from Jared he was up to date and aware of my interactions I had with this one other person so this is the other long-term boyfriend she had and it does in addition to her husband I wonder why you're stating that's so vaguely Heidi you're real explicit when you want to be in a real fake the rest of the time there were no lies no cheating no boundaries crossed on my part that was all I wanted from any polyamorous situation period I didn't get that from him I told you all at the very beginning that I'm not perfect or blameless don't idolize me I am a hurting person who will continue to address my own mistakes I've grown tremendously this past year I know that's the only path to finding real inner peace but you did it Heidi also with the lie that you had this cell phone full of information showing out there was one I didn't see a single journalist doing basic fact-checking basic journalistic ethics were neither on YouTube nor in print what have you wouldn't it be reassuring to imagine that witch hunts are a thing of the past wouldn't it be reassuring to imagine that we live in the enlightened age the Internet where people are no longer so eager to tear each other down what I see is a great deal of insecurity from people who don't feel intelligent themselves and you want to demonstrate through any little vindictive way they can that they're smarter than other people people who don't feel morally confident themselves and you want to vindictively tear down others and prove you're not as moral as you think you are ultimately it's this old pattern of behavior who do you think you are don't you know who I think I am we're living in a future that is increasingly lacking in privacy the challenge now is to ask how can we live with dignity in the absence of privacy when you think about it there's no real particular dignity in just keeping a secret there's nothing particularly moral in living an immoral life that other people don't judge you for just because they don't know what we need to practice as a culture as a world-spanning civilization is going to work with a co-worker when you know they've got nude pictures of themselves somewhere on the internet and still treating them with respect still treating them with dignity before the camera was ever invented people were still naked they were still swimming naked or doing all kinds of things naked outside of office hours and you still had to learn the discipline of treating them with dignity even though you may not approve of what they do in their personal life I think we see that challenge before eyes now more than ever before it's a challenge for the people doing the judging as much as it is a challenge for those of us who are putting our face here on YouTube and being judged [Music]