Animals that CANNOT survive in the wild: doomed to extinction & museum exhibits?
06 March 2017 [link youtube]
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a really quick video a lot a question
from tofu cube here well asking about museums so taxidermy in museums and animals being put in the museum's so one of the differences to me and garrett france yani fraccion is actually more extreme than I am in at least one respect maybe in several respect but you know France eleanii thinks that animals that cannot survive in the wild should go completely extinct should disappear from the planet so actually I just saying being honest that would not only mean that domesticated animals go extinct to disappear it would also mean that wild animals that can no longer exist in the wild without human help would disappear so I disagree with that I think that there is a an important category of animals that should in the future continue to exist in basically museum like facilities not a zoo in the current sense of the term but you know in Canada we already have some extent the reality is that our native buffalo the real Buffalo of the unalloyed pure Buffalo species that was at once there were millions of in Canada and are now almost extinct they exist on one island there is one island in a river in Canada that still has buffalo and they are basically maintain their by the government it's not a zoo they get to walk around the island freely but the government you know is guarding it at all times one of the reasons being by the way that Buffalo's they carry tuberculosis so they have to be quite carefully prevented from mixing with human beings who could possibly transmit tuberculosis and there is one national park in the United States still as real Buffalo I don't know how big the hurt is you can google it i'm sure so there's one park at america at one park in canada that's an island a small island where they're still buffalo and that is the only thing preventing them from disappearing to the world right so it's not a zoo it's not you know something else now in that same way i do think that you know there are you know if you were actually talking about this is the 300 years in the future talking about the ultimate future in a vegan utopia or something I do think that in the same way we can maintain small permanent populations of different types of domesticated animals from human history so they don't disappear but also where they're not being exploited you know I don't think you know it was a lot of these specialized breeds you know the Scottish terrier the various forms of terrier dog in Scotland they were created to kill rats the dog we had when I was a child it was born and bred to herd sheep it had sheep herding instincts and amazingly I got to witness that you know you let this dog near a bunch of sheep nobody had ever trained it and it still knew how to herd sheep bred into its DNA apparently amazing you know behavioral adaptation now those you know in a vegan future those uses for domesticate animals don't exist already today they don't really exist this is not the way you know traditional agriculture is disappear the traditional functions these domestic animals but now I think there's no reason to argue as France the only does that all of these species just have to disappear from Planet Earth again I'm Canadian Canada has empty territory we really do and it's getting emptier it's not getting fuller folks and even Japan Japan is a lot of empty territory and it's getting emptier I'm not joking you can look at real report the Japanese countryside they have a lot of empty land so you're saying you can't have a parcel of land for some Scottish terriers to exist on let them bring eat and run it you know it have managed again wildlife management this is not absolute wilderness it's also not you know domestication put up some it's not untain abul for basically any of any of those species so I just mentioned it's a small technical question but actually I do think museums are an interesting example of that you know as a pattern of keeping animals alive that would not survive in the wild either because the the breed is created through a natural human intervention or because human beings have changed the world so much that they are a wild species but they can no longer survive while which is the case for which is the case for the Bison also known as the Buffalo in the wilderness of Canada what remains of the wilderness camp
from tofu cube here well asking about museums so taxidermy in museums and animals being put in the museum's so one of the differences to me and garrett france yani fraccion is actually more extreme than I am in at least one respect maybe in several respect but you know France eleanii thinks that animals that cannot survive in the wild should go completely extinct should disappear from the planet so actually I just saying being honest that would not only mean that domesticated animals go extinct to disappear it would also mean that wild animals that can no longer exist in the wild without human help would disappear so I disagree with that I think that there is a an important category of animals that should in the future continue to exist in basically museum like facilities not a zoo in the current sense of the term but you know in Canada we already have some extent the reality is that our native buffalo the real Buffalo of the unalloyed pure Buffalo species that was at once there were millions of in Canada and are now almost extinct they exist on one island there is one island in a river in Canada that still has buffalo and they are basically maintain their by the government it's not a zoo they get to walk around the island freely but the government you know is guarding it at all times one of the reasons being by the way that Buffalo's they carry tuberculosis so they have to be quite carefully prevented from mixing with human beings who could possibly transmit tuberculosis and there is one national park in the United States still as real Buffalo I don't know how big the hurt is you can google it i'm sure so there's one park at america at one park in canada that's an island a small island where they're still buffalo and that is the only thing preventing them from disappearing to the world right so it's not a zoo it's not you know something else now in that same way i do think that you know there are you know if you were actually talking about this is the 300 years in the future talking about the ultimate future in a vegan utopia or something I do think that in the same way we can maintain small permanent populations of different types of domesticated animals from human history so they don't disappear but also where they're not being exploited you know I don't think you know it was a lot of these specialized breeds you know the Scottish terrier the various forms of terrier dog in Scotland they were created to kill rats the dog we had when I was a child it was born and bred to herd sheep it had sheep herding instincts and amazingly I got to witness that you know you let this dog near a bunch of sheep nobody had ever trained it and it still knew how to herd sheep bred into its DNA apparently amazing you know behavioral adaptation now those you know in a vegan future those uses for domesticate animals don't exist already today they don't really exist this is not the way you know traditional agriculture is disappear the traditional functions these domestic animals but now I think there's no reason to argue as France the only does that all of these species just have to disappear from Planet Earth again I'm Canadian Canada has empty territory we really do and it's getting emptier it's not getting fuller folks and even Japan Japan is a lot of empty territory and it's getting emptier I'm not joking you can look at real report the Japanese countryside they have a lot of empty land so you're saying you can't have a parcel of land for some Scottish terriers to exist on let them bring eat and run it you know it have managed again wildlife management this is not absolute wilderness it's also not you know domestication put up some it's not untain abul for basically any of any of those species so I just mentioned it's a small technical question but actually I do think museums are an interesting example of that you know as a pattern of keeping animals alive that would not survive in the wild either because the the breed is created through a natural human intervention or because human beings have changed the world so much that they are a wild species but they can no longer survive while which is the case for which is the case for the Bison also known as the Buffalo in the wilderness of Canada what remains of the wilderness camp