Jeff Epstein, Alan Dershowitz & the Implications.

12 July 2019 [link youtube]


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I'm gonna talk about the ethics the
ethical problems raised by this Jeremy Epstein tobacco legally and culturally were forced to just focus on the one component of the story that is illegal and the whole thing is deeply immoral even when the young women are over 18 even if these women were twenty four years old it would still be immoral it would still be evil it would still be wrong and I think we really have a challenge in our culture in dealing with that now some people would respond to this I've known a couple people I thought that only only a couple some people respond to this and say no fair's fair the rich prey upon the poor to quote Thucydides the rich do what they will and the poor suffer what they must I think there really is a moral obligation to be sincere with the people you have sex wit and sincerity is not easy sincerity isn't a virtue were born with sincerity is something you have to practice and hone again and again [Music] [Music] [Music] Dershowitz is seeking to throw out a defamation lawsuit brought against him by Virginia Roberts COO Frey who accuses him of participating in Epstein's alleged sex trafficking ring Dershowitz says he has proof gu Frey is lying the same woman that accused me claimed to have had dinner with Bill Clinton into underage girls on Jeffery Epstein's Island this is perhaps the most unflattering light to film impossible you can see how blinding the sunlight looks in the background there that is a Taoist temple and is specifically a Taoist temple devoted to Matsu kind of ocean goddess allegedly her story began with rescuing sailors who were drowning out at sea I hope I hope you guys can see that all right really really extreme conditions here to film in you see why in the old days was real filmmaking was a really different art before people had artificial lighting you could film under what you relied the light is way too right in some places and when you're in the shadow it's way too dark so it's hard to see much of anything on camera but anyway there you go for once you guys get a sense of the climate I'm told me look at this look at this gorgeous tropical tree look at the vines hanging off that thing now you get a sense of the climate I'm filming it you also get a sense of the cultural context I'm filming in which I realize most of the time here Annabel SEL you do not get that sense of context okay now let's sit down on the darkness here see if I can film in conditions where you can actually see my face hey go much better all right I'm gonna talk about the ethics the ethical problems raised by this Jeremy Epstein tobacco it's a tobacco that involves Epstein involves the famous powerful and influential lawyer Alan Dershowitz and to some extent more distantly or remotely it involves figures like Donald Trump and Bill Clinton the extent to which that's true is partly proven and partly unproven now but we're mostly focusing on on Epstein himself here I wanted to make a significant sort of preface to this discussion as to why it is I'm addressing these comments to Epstein with the presumption of his guilt rather than treating him as innocent until proven guilty in many many contexts I think it's very meaningful and very important that we take the time to treat people as innocent until proven guilty including circumstances where rumors have presented seeming evidence on the Internet I've been through this myself I've commented on many other youtubers and Internet person has been doing this very often allegations of sexual scandal are fake including screenshots that are fake people made fake nude images of me like putting my face acid party all kinds of stuff and you know the easiest thing in the world is just to change the text in a in a screenshot so that somebody says something they didn't really say all of that goes on and also rumor and innuendo and intrigue can take a minor transgression and exaggerate it until it seems like a crime against humanity so that's a very general warning in the last couple of days people were talking me about the supposed sexual deviancy of the youtuber named vouch that allegedly this guy is a terrible for us because sex life and I say back then look I'm interested in talking about that guys ethics and politics what's wrong with them under a million different headings but I really if you're gonna talk to me about this guy's private sex life an inference based on an innuendo based on something that was said in the Internet I'm gonna stick to the presumption of innocence or proven guilty you know I know that game is played in 2019 so without having been said yes I do treat Jeremy Epstein I do treat this guy as guilty he is guilty until proven innocent and one form of evidence that's maybe overlooked or underrated what if I get that roof in the background is a really nice really nice Taoist temple roof there there you go that one's not as grandiose in scale but the color scheme is really really nice on that um one reason why I treat this particular guy as guilty until proven innocent is the significance of airplane tickets so when you're talking about 16 year old females who did not pay for their own airplane tickets when you're talking about young women where there is an indelible record of flights they got on so see of a 16 year old getting on an airplane in New York City and flying to the Caribbean flying specifically to the Caribbean island where there's a huge estate owned by Epstein there's really no way to talk talk your way out of that in court there's no way to reinterpret the significance that airplane ticket and there's probably gonna be a record of whose credit card paid for the airplane ticket to write the these young women were not buying their own airplane tickets so there there is damning incontrovertible indelible evidence of that kind the airplane tickets alone will speak volumes and definitely put him in a position where he is guilty until proven innocent not the other way around and if I could speak to Alan Dershowitz this famous lawyer that's what I'd say to his face I'd say look I'm sorry there's no way to talk your way out of the significance of these airplane tickets really brief note here really brief footnote airplane tickets as a form of evidence that's something even the CIA has a lot of trouble dealing with very often low-level people assets who are working for the CIA there will be a paper trail showing that they got a flight between you know New York City and Langley Air Force Base one of these tempus Institute CIA Air Forces and then mysteriously all of a sudden they decided to go on vacation in Cambodia or they decided to go on vacation you know someplace they were deployed to very often just the record of airplane tickets a person has attached to their name it will speak for itself it will be a very compelling form of evidence even in purely political situations not a case like this as I've seen so what I want to say now ethically morally philosophically about this situation with with Epstein to me the most saddening thing of all is that legally and culturally were forced to just focus on the one component of the story that is illegal the one component which is the young women being underage and the whole thing is deeply immoral even when the young women are over 18 I will point you this way so the youngest women are 14 allegedly and in these court documents so I mean allegedly but this is formally alleged in court documents the accounts I know about in detail are women who were 16 but I would say to you this even if these women were 24 years old it would still be immoral it would still be evil it would still be wrong and I think we really have a challenge in our culture in dealing with that like what if in a parallel universe Epstein did exactly the same things but the women were 24 but let's just say all of them at a minimum age was 24 how then do we cope with that situation now some people would respond to this I've known a couple people my life but that only only a couple some people respond to this and say no fair's fair the rich prey upon the poor to quote Thucydides the rich do what they will and the poor suffer what they must so if some poor 24 year old decides to enter into this kind of contract then they just say fair's fair they live with the consequences and that's it that the legal protection and the moral protection only applies to people who are beneath a certain magical age certain magical agents Britain at peace but I think that is really kind of sick and immoral and bad and wrong I think there are deep you know underlying principles here I think there really is a moral obligation to be sincere with the people you have sex with and sincerity is not easy sincerity is it a virtue were born with sincerity is something you have to practice and hone again and again I think all children are liars think we're all born liars were born dishonest we're born to make excuses were born to say things that are convenient and not things that are true and have the resolution [Music] this is music coming out of the speakers here at the Taoist temple I don't know if that's it's sort of a procession or if they're doing a ceremony inside maybe they started playing the music as they want to shut me up I don't think they can hear me across the parking lot thought there you go nice little punctuation in the middle of morality lecture okay so here by contrast we're filming in front of a completely different Taoist temple I would note that this statue of a god horse like God his eyes are blindfolded for ceremonial reasons that I cannot yeah much better lighting huh okay he trying to wrap this up um sincerity is simple but it's not easy sincerity is something you have to cultivate and practice at home you have to get great at something you're not going to be good at as a teenager you're not going to be born talented at it and it's something I think we can probably never legislate I think there are real questions of being responsible for someone's long-term welfare when their short term relationship with you impacts it negatively so this guy Epstein women dropped out of school to be with him so wouldn't even matter if they were over 18 would matter for 18 19 or even 24 when you're talking about someone you seriously sacrificing seriously messes up their own long-term future prolongs your career or to be in a relationship with you there are moral obligations that come out of that can they be legislated I think in some countries they are um I was over 25 when my ex-wife screwed up my whole life but you know I dropped out of my education and career options to be with her and support her and support her in her education and career aspiration so a lot of people go through that any age whether you're twenty-five thirty-five or what have you relationships involve you know commitment and they involve so sacrifice and they involve you know being responsible for someone else's welfare in a way that goes much much above the bare requirements of the law of what it means just not to be a criminal so for me the horrifying thing the most horrifying thing about the charges against Epstein is I'm burdened with the awareness that what he did would be just as evil if the women were twenty four years old but it would not be just as punishable it would not even really have a cultural framework to deal with it and its implications so I think that's an area in which we really need to engage in some kind of introspection we do undergo some kind of cultural adaptation or growth and hey maybe ultimately there's going to be some kind of legislation but you know you cannot legislate for qu you can only legislate the minimum requirements for people not to be vicious I mean really people like to disrespect my truth but the fact is that you know my name is I don't know